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August 9[edit]

Using a few pictures for my website[edit]

Without going through all these pages on protocol, what do I have to do in order to "copy & paste" a few pictures (for reference) to my website?

From here to your website, it's as simple as right clicking and selecting "Save image as...". Keep in mind, though, that many images here are under some form of copyright. Such images will indicate this on their image page. Others, however, are under free licenses, which allow you to use them however you like as long as you keep to the terms of that license (generally, you have to attribute the author and license any derivatives the same way). Others still are public domain, which means you don't have to worry one little bit about how you use them. Wikimedia Commons has more images, which are all guaranteed to be either free licensed or public domain. Hersfold (talk/work) 00:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How do we find out if an existing page has been deleted before?[edit]

Wikipedia used to show a "deletion log" for a page, but someone apparently thought that was too much for us and doesn't mention it unless it actually doesn't exist and has been deleted. Previously I could have modified that address to see what I need, but now I seem to have the veil pulled over my eyes. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 00:56, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

You can view the page's log, at <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=PAGETITLE>, or you can go to a page's history tab, which should include a "view page logs" link. Various user scripts can make this easier, I believe. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh all right, I didn't think to check the history :P -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 01:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

h2g2 template has gone.[edit]

Chronology:

(a) someone created a h2g2 template for linking to h2g2 Entries;
(b) it was discussed and deleted;
(c) somone else created a template, unaware that one had previously existed;
(d) the template hung around for a while and was used on quite a few pages (I mainly changed already existing h2g2 links to the template version, as it looked neater);
(e) the template was deleted again, with no discussion anywhere that I can find.

Wikipedia_talk:Guide_for_h2g2_Researchers Template_talk:H2g2

Can the template be restored? Or at least discussed?

TRiG 00:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

According to the deletion log, which can be viewed here, the template was deleted by administrator Violetriga for "recreation of a deleted template". According to criteria for speedy deletion G4, content may be speedily deleted (deleted w/o discussion or notice) if it is essentially identical to the deleted version and/or does not address the concerns noted. If you'd like to have the template restored, try discussing it with Violetriga, as the deleting admin, or if that fails Deletion Review. Hersfold (talk/work) 02:24, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Right. I'm a h2g2 person. So far I've done little more at Wikipedia than correct the occasional typo. I really don't want to get embroiled in any controversy. I think some of the concerns raised in the previous deletion discussion were actually addressed on the talk page of the new template. I'll mention this to Violetriga, but I probably won't fight it.

(From the h2g2 end, we like incoming links, of course. But I need to couch this in terms of its benefits for this project. Let me think about how to phrase this....)

TRiG 14:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I think we need to have a proper discussion about linking the h2g2. I think the site is really good and contains lots of great content, but I don't think that we should link to it (and certainly not use it as a source) just as we wouldn't accept a wiki or a blog in such circumstances. Going by our External links and Reliable sources policies I don't think we should include the links and we should not encourage their inclusion through this template. I'd like to hear other peoples opinions on this. violet/riga (t) 17:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Coming to this a little late. I created the second template. Would have preferred to have been told about the speedy deletion, but no big deal. I'm not sure of the exact content of the original template, was it identical to the second? When I created it I certainly wasn't suggesting it be used a source. Some people on the original AfD seemed to think it was advertising, which it wasn't. h2g2 is a tiny project compared to Wikipedia, a few links here ane there, where relevant and appropriate, won't hurt I feel. I designed the template to be kinda like the IMDB one and other similar ones. ie {{imdb title|id=|title=1}} This IMDB template isn't being used as a source (it is very debatable as a reliable source), but as an external site with information relevant to the subject. This is exactly what a similar h2g2 Guide Entry is to a Wikipedia article. H2g2 GEs are often more light-hearted and humourous. Stu ’Bout ye! 21:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Joe Ninety[edit]

I tried creating an account two hours ago but since given up. I was going to write something baseed on a citation to do with a specticle wearing pupet creation. Anyway,Wikipedia are right. My brother is 39 now,wears lenses and goes by the name "Joe" or "Ninety"...True,kids were considered brainiaks.(it was also rumoured they could spell & read). He took his flak on the chin.Gnite —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.142.109.173 (talk)

If you have problems with account creation then see Wikipedia:Request an account. PrimeHunter 01:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Move tab not visible[edit]

Hi. I need to rename a topic because of a minor typo, and all sources say to click on the Move tab at the top of the page. I do not see the tab anywhere, regardless of which skin I'm in. Any clue why I might not be able to see it? I can't find the answer anywhere in the FAQ section. Thanks! Tominterval 02:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Your account must be at least four days old in order to move or create pages. This is for security purposes, to prevent vandals from creating one-time use accounts to move and create pages disruptively. Hersfold (talk/work) 02:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! That makes sense. Tominterval 02:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I guess this was about Jerry interval. I have moved it to Jerry Interval. PrimeHunter 03:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Loan application[edit]

I have problem to get loan

The Help Desk is for questions about Wikipedia. In addition, Wikipedia cannot help you with legal or financial matters. You'll have to ask your bank --Lucid 03:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
If you cannot get a loan, that means you are a poor credit risk according to formulas developed by banks over centuries of experience with making and collecting on millions of loans. Also see Credit Scorecards and Consumer Credit Risk. Speaking from my own personal experience of lending money to friends, when banks refuse to lend money to people, those people generally won't repay anyone else who chooses to be more foolish than the banks. --Teratornis 06:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

redlinking[edit]

What is redlinking exactly?

Redlinks are created for topics that are notable enough to have their own article, but for which no article has yet been created. The theory is that you link words/terms relevant to the topic. Those reading the article which includes the redlinks may be knowledgeable in the redlink topic and create an article for it. Lara♥Love 03:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Another common practice is to create stubs to avoid redlinks. I've made more than my share of stubs. Most have turned into nice articles over time. -- Kainaw(what?) 04:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I change the page title[edit]

How do I change the page title?

It should be The_Rustlers but its The_rustlers

Thanks

To change the page title, click the "move" button and move the page to the name you want. You will need to wait 4 days before you can move on a new account. Unfortunately, your article does not meet notability guidelines and will probably not be accepted on Wikipedia unless more reputable third party sources are included. --Hdt83 Chat 04:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

163[edit]

163是中国最大的门户网站之一。昨天,我编辑你们的“163”条目,写一句关于这个网站。但过了几个小时,那句被别人删除了。为什么?

The place to add it would be 163 (disambiguation) if the website was worth its own article, but please use English. Tim Q. Wells 05:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
In fact it does have its own article (163.com) and I've added it to the disambiguation page. Tim Q. Wells 05:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
The link at the top of 163 should point to 163 (disambiguation) and not 163 (number). --Kaypoh 05:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
你的文章中的位置是不对的,现在已经进行了更新. 同时,请写英语,因为这是英语百科. (The location of your article was wrong and now it has been updated. Also, please write in English because this is the English Section of Wikipedia.) TheAsianGURU 23:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

disscussions[edit]

Are anonymous editors allowed to participate in disscussions that involve voting like when articles are being deleted? 71.112.231.216 06:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they are allowed to participate in deletion debates. Giggy Talk 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
However, it is my understanding that !votes from unregistered and newly registered users do not carry as much weight toward consensus. Lara♥Love 06:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, but that's not true. The arguments of the debaters are to be considered. Of course, when a meatpuppet registers and casts a vote (without an argument), it does not carry much weight, but neither do votes without a comment from established editors. Melsaran 11:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
(ec) Well, firstly, deletion discussions are based on reference to policies and consensus, and care is taken not to call the process voting as Voting is evil (although I see they moved the meta page to "Polls are evil"). But yes, as long as they're there to present an argument based on those concepts, anonymous editors are generally not banned from such discussions. That said, on occasion some discussions attract a lot of meatpuppets and such who disrupt the discussion so much that the AfD has to be semi-protected. This is very rare, though, and will normally be noted. Also, I will again recommend that your discussion cover relevant policies and guidelines, because in such discussions there is a strong tendency for anonymous editors to use arguments listed in WP:AADD, and as such anon editors without strong arguments are sometimes not given as much weight as established editors. Confusing Manifestation 06:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Anonymous users are welcome to discuss all sorts of matters on Wikipedia, and comments by 'A.U.'s are still valued just as much as ones by established users I would say. Lradrama 14:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Geraldunc vandal[edit]

I tried to report this vandal on the Wikipedia section concerning reporting to an administrator several times. Could someone please take care of this for me? I've been trying to get this resolved for the last several hours but it hasn't work. Thanks.

The problem[edit]

Geraldunc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) does not understand the rules governing Wikipedia concerning sourced information and vandalism. He has repeatedly vandalized the Don Perata article. The user deleted information that was provided by other contributors and sources and replaced that information with an unsourced argument (revisions on 07:27, 24 July 2007 and 07:34, 24 July 2007). On July 29, 2007, I removed the unsourced information and posted an explanation on the Don Perata talk page and on the user's talk page. Garaldunc proceeded to again remove sourced information and sources from the article and replaced the information with unsourced material (05:25, 7 August 2007, 05:36, 7 August 2007, 05:37, 7 August 2007). I tagged Garaldunc's changes as vandalism and reverted the page back to its previous version (05:46, 8 August 2007, 05:48, 8 August 2007, 05:48, 8 August 2007). I explained my actions on the Don Perata talk page (17:53, 8 August 2007) and warned Geraldunc on his talk page (06:01, 8 August 2007). Then, Geraldunc again vandalized the Don Perata article (21:48, 8 August 2007). He used information I provided on my User page to find my personal email address (which is not listed on my user profile). He sent me the following threatening email:

"YOU are the one who is printing unsubstantiated "storis. EBE has repeatedly printed unverified, undocumented, non-sourced crap about Perata and I have to assume by continuing this crap YOU are part of Bobbie's world - his boyfriend perhaps. The most recent story - about Perata's "lavish lifestyle" is so misleading it is basically a lie - for you college boys, that's called "Libel" in legal circles. Are you two so stupid you don't realize the expenditures listed were for FUNDRAISERS??? I notice in listing those thousand dollar dinners, nowhere in there did Bobbie Gagmee point out there were, for example, dozens of people dining - most of whom paid for the evening. Obviously you have never run a successful non-profit and held a fundraiser. Obviously you have never run a successful political campaign. It takes money, it takes events, it takes relationships. So if YOU continue to fuck with the Perata Wikipedia listing, I'll not only have you banned, I'll have you sued. Thanks for giving me your real name. Nothing that I put in that post was UNTRUE - Bobbie has a history of writing slanted stories about Perata. That is TRUE and verifiable. Bobbie has never listed a single named source for his allegations against Perata - that is TRUE and verifiable. Bobbie has thrown Perata's name into any story about any Eastbay political figure even if it meant reaching back to Perata having met the person 10 years ago - that is TRUE and it's verifiable. You have NOTHING verified, yours is simply a repeat of insinuations. But enough about Perata. I think it's time to post Wikis on you and your boyfriend. You poor pathetic little nobody. God, it gets old having to hear from losers like you who have nothing beside their name except blog credits and the fact they're still in school and living with their mommies."

I admit that the East Bay Express isn't the SF Chronicle. Some of his arguments might be valid but without verification of those arguments and combined with the vandalism of his actions in general (deleting sources, sources information, etc.) this user needs to be blocked. Although the user needs to be blocked and was very disrespectful to me, I will try to address his criticism.

I'll forward this to WP:ANI. Shalom Hello 13:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Flickr images & Wikipedia[edit]

Hi there, what is the 101 on flickr images? How do I know if I can copy them to Wikipedia Commons, and what license(s) is/are needed? Thanks for reading. —Onomatopoeia 09:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Some of the most popular licenses that are acceptable are CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL, GPL, and Free Art License (as well as public domain materials). You can get more detailed information from the Commons licensing page. --Sopoforic 09:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
See also [1]. Melsaran 11:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Gee, thnx! —Onomatopoeia 12:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes[edit]

hello

  • firstly is there somewhere a compleat list of all the infoboxes/geoboxes/etc that there are. ive seen Wikipedia:Infobox templates but im sure there must be more.
  • secondly is there an infobox for a woodland or forest?

thanks --Deathorglory999 10:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

For your second question: probably not, I couldn't find it in any of the forest categories. For your first question: no idea. Melsaran 11:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
For your first question, Category:Infobox templates is not complete but it has more than Wikipedia:Infobox templates. PrimeHunter 12:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
You can search Wikipedia's Template: namespace with Google. Searching for keywords such as forest infobox, woodland infobox, arboretum infobox does not find anything that looks promising. Generally when you cannot find the kind of infobox you want, you can look for some more general infobox. Or examine articles that are similar to the article you want to create or edit, and see what infoboxes they use. For example, if the type of forest you have in mind would belong on List of U.S. National Forests, you can click through the links on that page until you find an article with an infobox you like. Studying example pages can often be better than searching for keywords, because you might not guess keywords that appear in existing pages that do what you want. --Teratornis 19:16, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Amazingly, I had to click through more than a dozen links on List of U.S. National Forests before I found an article which contains an infobox (Sequoia National Forest); the infobox is: {{Infobox protected area}}. Someone should go through all those national forest articles and infobox them up. Given the number of national forests in the U.S. alone, they could justify having their own infobox. --Teratornis 19:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

RSS[edit]

Can I get the Wikepedia Main Page as an RSS feed?


I'm not an expert, but per WP:RSS, it appears that you can get portions of the site as an RSS feed. The main page itself doesn't change often, because it's built from different templates that change daily (Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 9, 2007, {{In the news}}, etc.), but maybe you can get the feed from one of those pages? tiZom(2¢) 12:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

clock which says about life of earth[edit]

about clock which says the about the life of earth

Are you thinking of the Doomsday Clock? --Cherry blossom tree 13:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Notebook problems[edit]

my daughter has a power note book, and uses Safari as her web broswer...When I IM her, after several minutes, she is shut down, and has to reboot in order to communicate. This happens repetitively and is very annoying..What can she do to stop this from happening? A very frusted father...

I'm sorry, we're only able to assist with problem on Wikipedia. I would recommend you check the help files on your daughter's programs for information on how to correct the problem yourself or how to contact tech support. Hersfold (talk/work) 14:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
And there's the Computing Reference desk. Unfortunately, I'm not a Mac user so I can't help: But there are folks on that Reference desk that might be able to. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How to create the same article in different langage[edit]

Hi all, I'd like to ask if it is possible (and how) to create an article with the same subject-title but in different language ex. the main article is in English and I want to write it (with more info) in Greek language. And last one, how to connect the 2 articles;

Thnx

The Greek language Wikipedia is located at el.wikipedia.org. You can create an account there and write the article (there is no single sign-on yet). For other Wikipedias, see meta:List of Wikipedias. To connect the two articles, use interwiki linking. For example, [[en:Foo]] in the Greek Wikipedia article, and [[el:FooInGreek]] in the English Wikipedia article. utcursch | talk 15:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Just to make sure, don't put a greek article on this English Wikipedia. Just thought I'd add that - folk have done worse things than putting foreign articles on this website you know! Lradrama 15:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thnx a lot. Very quick response! Kapetannikolas 10:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Best medical site?[edit]

Which medical site is best? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Writs (talkcontribs)

This page is for help with Wikipedia, rather than help in general. Perhaps one of the reference desks could help if you are more specific in what you mean by "best". Leebo T/C 15:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, do you mean which is the best medical site to use as a reference (or something similar)? Lradrama 15:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Also keep in mind that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. Hersfold (talk/work) 15:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


Pre-populated Subject line[edit]

Hello, is there a way to automatically prepopulate the subject line in an email when using the following: mailto:emailaddress name ?

Is this a Wikipedia-related question? If not, it shouldn't be here. Lradrama 15:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes its for my wiki :)

Bpomykala 15:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

If it's for your wiki, the answer to Lradrama's question would be "no." We are only able to offer assistance with the English Wikipedia, operated by the Wikimedia Foundation. I'd suggest searching online for one of those HTML tutorial sites. Hersfold (talk/work) 15:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Try this:
[mailto:username@domain?subject=Hello_there]
It seems to work on one of my MediaWiki wikis. In my quick testing, I did not find a way to get a true space character between words in the subject. (&nbsp; did not quite work, for example.) --Teratornis 18:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Note: questions about MediaWiki belong here:
and you can search the extensive documentation and discussion on these wikis for clues about many problems:
but we get lots of such questions on the Wikipedia Help desk anyway. --Teratornis 18:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Content Control By Reader Assignment[edit]

I am attempting to implement a wiki as an internal procedure repository.

The readers of this content are divided by customer base (e.g. readers in dept X service customer Y while readers in dept A service customer B) and would like to see content branded (logo,colors,font) for their customer.

Readers are occasionally loaned from one dept to another to assist in servicing tasks.

Although most procedures are common across customers, there are exceptions.

Whan a reader is servicing a customer that has an exceptional procedure, I want the reader to see the customer's procedure, not the common procedure.

What approach would best suit this type of arrangement?

  • Branding via CSS?
  • Transclusion/Redirection via template parameters? (This becomes cumbersome with 20 or more exceptions.)

Just looking for some guidance. Thank you.

DT14012 15:56, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand why the readers of an internal wiki care about what it looks like; I would think the part to worry about first is getting the right procedure to the service representative. Then maybe later worry about the cosmetics. Have the people who are asking for the decorative frills justified the cost of adding them? (E.g., has anyone demonstrated that "branding" the content with logo, colors, and font is going to increase someone's productivity by an amount sufficient to offset the cost of building that stuff?) You did not specify what wiki software you are using. As wiki software packages differ from each other, the "best" approach will vary with the package.
If you want to use MediaWiki, here are some ideas:
  • If you don't have too many different departments, you could implement a separate wiki for each department. MediaWiki is not too difficult to install, but it lacks any tools for administering a wiki farm, so if you have many departments, the multiple wiki approach could get awkward.
  • You can customize a user's view of a MediaWiki wiki by learning how to write your own skins. I've never done that myself.
If you opt for the single-wiki approach, you have to decide who or what will process the conditional branch on "customer." If you want the wiki to handle this automatically, you may be in for some tough sledding with MediaWiki, because it's clear from the example of Wikipedia that MediaWiki isn't designed to conditionally morph its content (which is not to say you could not do that, but you would probably have to become a MediaWiki hacker). Everybody who looks at an article on Wikipedia gets the same article, and MediaWiki is primarily designed to run Wikipedia - if what you want to do is what Wikipedia does, MediaWiki is a great choice. If you opt for multiple wikis, then your service reps will process the conditional branch themselves by logging in to the wiki for a particular customer. To dynamically modify content on a single wiki, branching on "customer," you might need to build what is called a wiki application, and MediaWiki might not be the most convenient platform.
Wikipedia's Help desk is not the best venue for your question, as the instructions at the top of this page indicate. If you have specific questions about setting up your own wiki, you should direct them to the venue for the wiki software in question. For example, questions about MediaWiki belong here:
and you can search the extensive documentation and discussion on these wikis for clues about many problems:
--Teratornis 16:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I might add that one cheap way to "brand" (or pseudo-brand) content on a MediaWiki wiki would be with infobox templates. You could make infobox templates specific to each customer, and that would condition your service reps to look in the upper right corner of a wiki page to visually identify the customer associated with the page. It would still be the service rep's job to look up the procedure for the customer. --Teratornis 17:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

What's the Working On Tag?[edit]

Previously on this site, I've seen a tag on an article that asked Wikipedians to please not edit the page at the moment due to someone making a very large edit.

I'm wishing to use that tag now, but I can't remember what it had been. If you know what tag I'm describing, please tell me the code for it. Thanks. TheInfinityZero 16:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe you're looking for Template:Inuse. --ElKevbo 16:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. TheInfinityZero 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Bookmark/Favorite[edit]

Is there any way to bookmark articles that I would like to come back to at a later time, or that I don't want to forget to read if I stumble across them on my long traverses across wikipedia. I don't think the "watch" function is appropriate for this. Maybe there is a better third party option that people use? Obviously my browser's "favorites" feature is an option, but it would be tedious with all that I would like to bookmark. Am I the only one who thinks a feature like this would be a good idea for those with accounts?

Well, the watchlist can be used as more than just a selective recent changes list. If you go to edit and view watchlist, it's somewhat like a favorites list. It also lets you see pages that are currently redlinked (after deletion or prior to creation). Leebo T/C 18:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick answer. Will everything I add to my wishlist be deleted after the max of 7 days that I can set in my preferences?
Items are not removed from your watchlist after the number of days you set, that's just the amount of time for recent changes to articles you watch. The items will remain on your list after 7 days have passed (though the recent change will fall off) and if someone edits the article again, you'll see the change pop up to the top. Leebo T/C 18:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

A thank you for creating a new article and a request for a new one[edit]

Thank you so much for creating the article for Kohei Kiyasu. I really appreciate that. Would you be so kind as to create an article for Miyako Endou and title it "Miyako Endō" and make some redirections for the article on her be "Miyako Endou", "Miyako Endo", and "Miyako Endô"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.14.216.60 (talkcontribs) 18:25, August 9, 2007 (UTC)

As an unregistered user, you can get help creating this article at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Leebo T/C 18:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

cite web[edit]

The 105th citation using the {{cite web}} template at Chris Young (pitcher) is not working.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[ and ] can't be used in links because they interfere with the link syntax; I've replaced them by the corresponding HTML entities &#91; and &#93;, now the link (and thus the output of Template:cite web) is OK. --Dapeteばか 20:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I create two pages from a highjacked page?[edit]

I orginally created the page Gator Country to describe a Southern Rock band.

I now find that page to be completely rewritten (by an anon user) to describe a completely different punk band with the same name.

I think that a disambiguation is needed such that two pages are referenced, one for the southern rock band and one for the punk band.

However I'm not sure which or how to use a disambiguation template for doing this.

If an example using a proper template can be pointed to I can create both pages (or three pages including a disambiguous page?).

I'm not sure the anon user's complete rewite of the topic rises to the level of vandalism but at least that user should have created a seperate page so that both bands can coexist on the wiki.

Any help on how to create both pages with a proper disambiguation will allow me to change so that both bands can be represented.

Karstdiver 20:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Everything a Wikipedia editor could need to know about disambiguation (probably) is here:
The unregistered user appears to have no other edits except to Gator Country: Special:Contributions/75.3.249.208, at least under that IP address. Thus we can assume good faith which in this case would equate to some substantial gaps in knowledge of Wikipedia's guidelines. --Teratornis 22:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding facts to a page[edit]

Hello, I am writing concerning a page that needs to add a very important fact into it, currently left out.

How does that process work?

Sincerely, johnnap12

Just click the "edit this page" link at the top of the article, or the "[edit]" link at the beginning of the relevant section. Make sure that whatever facts you add are adequately referenced. For more information, see Help:Editing. Hersfold (talk/work) 20:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Missing templates[edit]

For some reason, all of the sudden, I cannot see certain templates. They are: Template:German Empire Divisions, Template:German Empire Corps, and Template:German Armoured Divisions of World War II. When I click on "edit this page" the text of each template is there, so I know they haven't been blanked, but I cannot see them, just the title of the template and the "v-d-e" links on the upper left. Other templates appear normally. Does anyone know what might be causing this? Airbornelawyer 20:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

This is not a technical fault - on the right hand side of the templates, there is a [Show] link. If you click it you will see the template. It's used to save on article space when there are lot's of pages that need to be indexed there. AndrewJDTALK -- 21:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, there wasn't a [Show] link showing (no pun intended) because I didn't have Javascript enabled for Wikipedia. I see it now. Airbornelawyer 22:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

supplies and schedules[edit]

How do you look for school supplies and schedules of school bus stops in the west ashely area. Abd for when school starts and ends

Well, if you're looking for information about the West Ashley area, go to the West Ashley article. If you are looking for specific things that may not be on Wikipedia, try going to the reference desk. Neranei T/C 22:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Protocol for editing an article where a situation has substantially changed[edit]

This is in reference to the page "Cookie Diet". It has been edited back and forth over the years due to conflicting views on what "Cookie Diet" really was, who invented it, who had the rights to it, etc. I don't want to edit the page without understanding the correct protocol.

Until recently, several organizations have claimed rights to the term "Cookie Diet" and used the term to describe their specific weightloss programs. They are currently representing in the "Cookie Diet" page.

While other parties have attempted to appropriate Dr. Siegal’s Cookie Diet trademark and/or associate their products and services with the Cookie Diet trademark, in early 2007, Dr. Siegal filed a Federal lawsuit against one such party. On Friday, July 13, 2007, a United States Federal Court in Miami entered a preliminary injunction in favor of Dr. Siegal and declared, among other things, that Dr. Siegal has “nationwide ownership” of the Cookie Diet trademark.

So there is no other weightloss program that can be entitled "Cookie Diet". Mind also that this program is over 25 years old and has been featured in numerous media spots including Good Morning America and Women's World Magazine.

As a result, "Cookie Diet" is not a descriptive term that applies to various weight loss systems. It is a trademarked brand name for a specific system of weight loss and associated hunger-suppressing foods developed by Dr. Sanford Siegal.

In recent months, other parties, including Smart for Life and Appetizer Diet have tried to usurp Dr. Siegal’s Cookie Diet trademark. Among the ways they have done so is to edit the Wikipedia Cookie Diet article, adding to it false associations between the Cookie Diet and their unrelated products and services.

In so doing, these companies have confused the public as to the source and origin of the genuine Cookie Diet.

Since a Federal Court has ruled in no uncertain terms that the term “Cookie Diet” refers to, and is a trademark of, Dr. Sanford Siegal, the article should represent only the program developed by Dr. Siegal.

How should I proceed to set the record straight?

Jason Siegal 21:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)spinware

You should rewrite the article to describe his diet, but you should still note that other people previously used the term "cookie diet" to describe their own programs. -Amarkov moo! 21:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

searching[edit]

Hello,

How do I set it up so that if you search for a key word my page will come up? I would like Jean-Pierre Canlis to show up when you search for "canlis" but right now only Canlis Restaurant comes up.

Thank you 65.102.184.25 23:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

As the Canlis Restaurant article had been deleted the calis redirection page was redundent so I have changed the redirect for you to redirect to the Jean-Pierre Canlis article. 23:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Andyreply