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July 12[edit]

Image Question[edit]

This doesn't have to do directly with Wikipedia, but most of you editors are well versed in the arts of fair use and all that jazz. Anyway, here's my deal. I plan on making a satire site about GameFAQs, entitled LameFAQs. Here is what I've got for a header, and I was wondering if me and my business associate would have to worry about copyright infringement with these images. We don't want to get screwed over because of our ignorance. Original Header: [1] LameFAQs Header: [2] and [3]. If this isn't the proper place to ask these sort of questions, by all means, delete/move it, whatever. Mr.KlicK 17:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Mr.KlicK

graph making[edit]

how do I get a graph? Is there a way to get a graph from numbers in a wiki table, or do we have to make it seperately and import it, like as a screen cap? Kripto 06:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

don't know. yup, i am just a helpful kinda guy. 09:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
There is a WikiPlot extension. To see whether it is installed on a given MediaWiki wiki, check the list of installed extensions at Special:Version on that wiki. MediaWiki has no graphing functions by default as far as I know, so if no graphing function is available you would have to create your graph with an external application and upload it as an image file. --Teratornis 14:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Followup question: what software is recommended to produce a graph as an image suitable for uploading. I use Kubuntu Linux, and I think Kripto does too, but answers based on (preferably free) Windows software would be useful too. It is certainly possible to use a spreadsheet to create a graph, but to get that into image format (ie jpg or png), a screen capture seems rather inelegant.-gadfium 21:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Ideally, graphs should be made in the SVG vector format, as these files are lossless. People recommend Inkscape as a good vector editor, but I don't know how you would make it plot graphics directly. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Editing Problem[edit]

I edited an article. The Real Testament, an album by rap artist: Plies. I edited it, saved it, it looked like how I edited it, I reload the page and then a second later it had reverted to its previous form before I edited it.Frozilla33 23:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks like another user thought you were vandalizing the page. However, I notice that you have included a link to a reference, whereas the previous version did not have this. I suggest you message the user, and talk about what going on. You can see the history of the page by clicking the "history" tab. --Haemo 00:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

query re. adding info.[edit]

Without any explanation, my additional info. was deleted from Diane Bish's page here - I merely added data which I felt should be included in her list of accomplishments, etc.; data which is distributed whenever she presents a program. But I find that my additions have been removed and the article again is the skimpy excerpt it was prior to my additions; all within mere hours. I do not understand the reasoning for this and feel I should have been informed as to what I did wrong in order to correct it rather than merely having my contribution erased. Looking forward to hearing from you as soon as possible, with all sincerity, and wishing you continued success in this worthwhile contribution you're making with your various sites, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne-ology (talkcontribs)

It looks like they were reverted by Rambutan (talk · contribs), with the comments that they were unsourced and did not reflect a neutral point of view. You can talk to this user on their talk page about this. --Haemo 00:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Creating Multiple Accounts[edit]

Is it okay to create more than one account on Wikipedia?

Skunkmaster 02:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It is discouraged in most cases. See Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. And please use a signature that links to your user page at Skunkmaster. In case you typed the signature manually: Typing ~~~~ will automatically make a linked signature if you haven't changed signature settings. PrimeHunter 02:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

On the Wikipedia:Sock puppetry page, it says that you can't create and more accounts with more powers, (one account has admin powers and you try to get admin powers on another). Is it okay to create an account with admin powers and on another with Bureacrat status? Or something like that?

Skunkmaster 03:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Only Bureaucrats can confer admin powers on another user. If you are not a bureaucrat already, you cannot create an account that has extra powers. Special:Listusers has a "Group" pull-down list that lets you display all the users belonging to the various permission groups. --Teratornis 15:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Becoming an admin is not easy, and becoming a bureaucrat is extremely harder. It is not fair game to create multiple accounts, except in very limited circumstances. If you indeed created multiple accounts, got them to have powers, and were discovered, you would very likely be banned. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Copyright licensing for uploaded .jpg files[edit]

I'm very confused on the proper proceedure to correctly identify whether a copyright exists for a .jpg I want to upload. I have a baseball card I've scanned and would like to add to a players page. But I'm not sure if the card is copyrighted and if so, can it be used or what would I need to do in order to?

Please help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twh66 (talkcontribs).

Well, there's a good question. You could look at the various baseball card images in Baseball card and see how their uploaders tagged them. For example, see the copyright information on Image:King Kelly 0554fu.jpg. Also see WP:COPYRIGHT for general information. --Teratornis 19:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

What else is there?[edit]

I know that Admins, Bureaucrats, and Stewards have special powers, is there anything else?

Also what do Stewards do?

Skunkmaster 03:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Stewards can make another user an administrator, bureacrat, etc on any Wikimedia wiki (wikinews, commons, the different language wikipedias, etc). See more information on Stewards at the meta page here. I hope this information doesn't make you power-hungry... ;) Sebi [talk] 04:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Full list of other user classes, also on the meta here. Sebi [talk] 04:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Also see Wikipedia:Administrators. Perhaps the fastest way to experience this kind of power is to start your own wiki, but you won't get to wield that power over 22,583,298 users right away. There's nothing inherently wrong with craving power, in fact that's the main appeal of Wikipedia, that anybody has the power to get in here and start changing things on one of the world's most popular Web sites. Most other popular sites like Google don't give users even a tiny fraction of that much power. That's no knock on those other sites, just a measure of how radical Wikipedia is. --Teratornis 20:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

how to semi protect a section of an article from future vandalism[edit]

in the article on "Concordia University", the 'Fraternities and Sororities' section of the articles is subject to vandalism on roughly a monthly basis. As a member of one of the organizations mentionned therein, i would like to have that section of the article semi-protected. and/or be informed of how to request protection myself. i attempted to follow guidelines from FAQs or copy-and-pasting source from already semi-protected pages unsuccessfully.

My username is: Pile It —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Sections of articles cannot be protected, it's the full article protected or no protection. You can request protection of the article at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but the protection policy states that pages are not protected to prevent future vandalism, only to stop vandalism that is happening presently. Sebi [talk] 04:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the page and its history, the page has never been protected. Please do not place protection tags on a page that is not protected, as this is misleading to other readers and editors. Sebi [talk] 04:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pile it. Articles can only be protected by administrators. The templates and codes you are seeing in pages that are protected are there to inform that protection has been done, but do not effect protection themselves. You can request page protection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection but it is very unlikely such request will work, as the article is not vandalized often enough to warrant it. The reason protection is used sparingly is because of the chilling effect it can have on good edits. By the way, there's no need to manually type your signature; just type ~~~~ at the end of a post and it will automatically format to your signature, linked to your userpage (and I now see you were editing while not logged in)--Fuhghettaboutit 04:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I had a question for you guys[edit]

Can you guys create a page for me here is what I want it to look like

<massive post removed>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Please do not submit the entire text of a proposed article here. If you'd like to request a page, please go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Thank you.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't do it there either; format it properly. The mess of HTML tags and stuff make it impossible to turn into an article. It was removed from Wikipedia:Articles for creation earlier because it had untagged/broken code in it which were corrupting the rest of the page. --Haemo 04:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey peeps![edit]

Dude, can you give me directions to a book store for the Harry Potter book?Thanks a freakin' lot. Henry Plenterson or then put in your zip code and the name of a book store. Useight 09:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I need...[edit]

The link to Jimbo Wales's userpage, thanks. -- 05:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Jwales. --Haemo 05:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Packages[edit]

Please Tell Me Which Graphics Packages/Applications Are Available In The Market For Image Manupulations? (Some Most Popular Applications Are MS-Paint; Corel Draw etc.)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Haemo 05:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... =[edit]

On my account's userpage, an admin keeps replacing it with "bsbsbsnrjrjegwsnwertyu", but I can't say his username, or who knows what he will then do to me/ advice? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 05:41, 12 July 2007.

Admins do not have God-like powers, so you can tell us here, or on WP:ANI. --Haemo 05:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Given this user's contributions today, I'm getting the sense they may be trolling. I may be wrong, but in either case I would reiterate Haemo's comment that if you're going to make accusations about an admin, being vauge helps no-one and being specific helps us work out who's at fault, with no repurcussions to any innocent party. Confusing Manifestation 06:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

NO I mean on my userpage of my account, not IP address. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:16, 12 July 2007.

We know what you're talking about; see above. --Haemo 06:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

= == Jimbo wales[edit]

what is Jimbo Wale's car model, thanks, just curious!--Jimbo 05:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

You'd have to ask Jimbo. – Luna Santin (talk) 06:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I work in the same building as him. If you really do care, next time I see him I'll take a look at his car. It might be easier just to ask him, though. Rockstar (T/C) 06:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
If you are not Jimbo you should not sign your Help desk posts as him. --Teratornis 20:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Col-span tables[edit]

I'm editing "Flower Mound High School" under the Extracurricular Activities heading to reinstate a previously deleted list in a new table format. Due to the length of one of the items, I've expanded it to fill two columns (! colspan = 2), but my method recolors the box and bolds the text within. How can I reformat/edit the table to keep it from doing that?

You were very close! :) The ! needs to be a |, in this case -- they both denote the start of table cells, but where | is a "normal" cell, ! indicates a column heading (which, interestingly enough, I've never seen in the middle of a table, before, so I've learned a little something, tonight, too). Went ahead and fixed this, for you. Keep up the good work. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 08:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)




how can i put a photo or image on a page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raja101 (talkcontribs).

  • If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|150px|center|Optional caption.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, 150px with the size in pixels you want the image to appear, center with the alignment of the image on the page and Optional caption with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information.
  • If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.
Hope this has helped. Sebi [talk] 07:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Becoming an Admin[edit]

Is it possible for a few of you guys/gals to take a quick peek at my contributions/edits/comments and give me an estimate on my changes to passing an RfA? Useight 09:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

If you haven't read it already, the Wikipedia:Administrators page is a good place to find lots of information on the subject, as is Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. To get a good idea of whether or not you'll pass an RFA or not, the best thing you can do is watch (and maybe take part in) a few RFA discussions, and see who passes and who doesn't, and why. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 11:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
A few quick notes. While you have a fair number of edits (1750ish) there are many users that have a personal threshold above this (there are many other users who rail at those who oppose on the basis of editcount alone, but it is nevertheless true). From looking at your first few hundred contributions, a very large percentage are minor edits. I don't know if this indicative of all your contributions, but there are also editors who want to see substantial main space contributions, including article writing. Up until recently, your edit summary usage has not been consistent. Many editors look for perfect or near perfect usagee (meaning always leaving an edit summary). You can change your preferences to prompt you whenever you forget to provide an edit summary. None of these issue are "deal breakers", but I do notice one real problem. You have been warning users for creating pages with "warning vandal". Those are good faith article postings, albeit, speedy candidates. Only users who patently vandalize should ever be referred to as vandals, and even when the vandalism is blatant, it's divisive to label them vandals in the edit summary. A descriptive edit summary, such as noting the tag you are using in the edit summary ("{{uw-creation}}") would be much better.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe you should file an Editor review. --Kaypoh 12:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Aluminum composite panels[edit]

dear sir i would like to know about alluminium composite pannel where in it is manufactured using pvdf. i would like to know what is this pvdf

thank you prakash

I believe it stands for Polyvinylidene fluoride. For future questions such as this, please ask at a section of theWikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

i want flow chart of compound interest[edit]

i want flow chart of compound interest—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Have you tried the miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

urlencode for title names[edit]

In templates, urlencode replaces spaces with + signs. What function replaces them with _ so they become proper Wikipedia titles? -- Kainaw(what?) 13:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't imagine a use for which you would need to insert underscores (_) - the internal wiki syntax parser recognizes internal links with spaces in the same way it recognizes them with underscores. Unless you need to link to an external wiki (unlikely, ridiculously unlikely in template form), simply use the page title with spaces - it should work. Nihiltres(t.l) 13:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
OK. So, if I have my own wiki and I want to link to Wikipedia. I have to create the URL as However, the parameter passed is "Page title". If I don't replace that space with a _, the link will not work. If I use urlencode, it becomes - which does not work. So, you see, this is not unlikely, ridiculously unlikely in a template form. It is a rather common process of trying to link from one wiki site to another. -- Kainaw(what?) 13:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
See Help:Magic words#Namespaces and URLs which very briefly mentions the {{urlencode:x y @}} parser function. If you want to use this on your own MediaWiki wiki, you may have to install the Parser functions extension. But if your real goal is to link to articles on Wikipedia from your own MediaWiki wiki, you should be able to use an interwiki link like this: [[wikipedia:Page title]]. You can also define your own interwiki link prefixes, for example on wikis I administer I like to define w: to be a shorter prefix to link to Wikipedia articles, along with prefixes for other sites (such as internal company sites for a corporate wiki to link to). If you mess with the default interwiki link map, you should write a help page documenting all your additions, so your wiki users can see what additional prefixes are available. --Teratornis 14:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, "anchorencode" is what I needed. -- Kainaw(what?) 14:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

How do I add a link to a page?[edit]

On the 'Cain (disambiguation)' page, my favorite one is missing. He's the fictional Cain from the online comic of the same name. The site and the series have been around for since at least 2002 (when I started reading). How can I add this to your list? Can I add this to your list?

I am NOT tech savy, so if you have 'instructions for dummies', I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the help and info! 14:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Instructions for dummies are on the cheat sheet. You probably need to do the following:
  1. Click on this link: Cain (disambiguation).
  2. Click "edit this page".
  3. Add text similar to the following:
*Cain (webcomic), hosted on since 2002

Shalom Hello 14:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Note that disambiguation pages are only intended for navigation in Wikipedia. They are solely for subjects which have (or in some cases are likely to get) coverage in Wikipedia. It's not a list of known things with that name. I have not evaluated whether Cain (webcomic) is suited for Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 16:07, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

What happened to Sivaji: The Boss?[edit]

It was so big a few months ago with sooo much information.

Now its really small.

What have you done to it? 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Click the history tab on the article. False information, unreferenced rumors, and other things not directly related to the article were removed. -- Kainaw(what?) 14:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Images Won't Appear for Me[edit]

For some reason, as of a couple days ago, my browser shows me blank space instead of the images on all Wikipedia pages. Images load fine on all other sites, and i can see the wikipedia images if i load the URL of the image itself in my browser.. but i can't see them in the context of the site. What's up?

This question comes up occasionally on the Help desk (see this Google search for it). If you can't find a solution in the previous replies, tell us which Web browser you are using, and/or look in Wikipedia:Browser notes. --Teratornis 20:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Seven Mile Bridge in Florida[edit]

Can you please tell me how many lanes there are on the Seven Mile Bridge? Is it 2 miles each way, meaning four lanes? Or is it just one each way, meaning two?

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

Seven Mile Bridge is 38 feet wide and has 2 lanes in total, 1 in each direction. There are also two-lane freeways in USA. PrimeHunter 15:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Log[edit]

I have written an article which has been deleted. I cannot find it in the deletion log - its title was "Ben lewis". I also don't know what was wrong about the article exactly. Maybe you can help me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katharina Harnack (talkcontribs)

Third Day History Christian Rock

News Briefs[edit]

What is the best way to go about finding news briefs for June 2007 for a collegiate yearbook? Thanks! 15:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. Shalom Hello 19:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't know the "best" way but see 2007 and June 2007. --Teratornis 20:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Parameter syntax[edit]

Can anyone help me with this one? It is driving me crazy. I am working with Template:Month3 and I included this:

|satcolour= {{#if:{{{satcolour|}}}|<font color={{{satcolour}}}>| }}

This is what I want. When the template is called with the parameter satcolour=blue (or any other colour), the next template must be called with:

|satcolour=<font color=blue> 

Otherwise it must be:


It appears that my command is finished after the second of a triplet of braces. And it adds a double quote after the third brace. In other words the symbols

}"> | }}

are passed literally.

What went wrong? HandigeHarry 16:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It keeps insisting that I log in[edit]

I log in as Bobt250, it accepts me as being logged in. After that anytime I try to do anything it keeps telling me I need to log in. No amount of logging in satisfies Wiki. Consequently I asked a question of a moderator and I appeared as unsigned and cannot edit my preferences. User: (Talk)

Perhaps you need to enable cookies in your browser, as described here? jeffjon 20:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Emailed password delay[edit]

I have requested that my password be emailed to me but over an hour later I am still waiting. My mail server is well connected and always on so I expect no delays in receiving email. How long before it is sent?

I believe that my login is "druid" and my email address is

Thanks. 16:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

There a two potential problems. First, you might have typed in the wrong email address when put in your email address for your wikipedia account. Finally, and most likely the wikipedia email system is down momentarily. Hope that helps. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 18:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

So is there some way to find out if my email address is incorrect for my login? Wikipedia is too big a system for them to be down for such a long time. How do I contact an admin? 19:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Admins on wikipedia have nothing to do with the servers themselves. You'd have to contact someone with the WikiMedia Foundation. -- Kesh 21:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Or donate lots of money so they can buy more servers. Generally most of these server slowdown problems clear up in a day or two if you just wait (see: Wikipedia:There is no deadline). I'd be surprised if complaining about a problem like this would get it fixed any sooner, although I could be wrong. --Teratornis 02:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. Operator error. As soon as I realized that login names were case sensitive I had my password sent using the correct name. DruidZ 01:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


Editing Page Titles[edit]

Is it possible to edit page titles? If so, how does one do it?

Ltmwiki 17:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)ltm

Move the page (click the move tab). Moving is, in a sense, renaming the page. -- Kainaw(what?) 18:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
More about page moves is found at WP:MOVE -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 18:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Also if the move is potentially controversial, it might be a good idea to list it at WP:RM. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (ταlκ) 18:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Licensing of non-replacable, non-free image of a deceased person[edit]

I have an image of an individual who is deceased that should fall under fair use, but on the image upload page I don't see an intuitive license for this in the drop down. any suggestion on what license to use for an image of a deceased person where I can attribute the photog and the image is non-replacable fair use in the article about the individual because it is one of only 3 existing photographs of the subject? I don't normally do image loads so I'm not overly familiar with that page.--Isotope23 18:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I think I figured it out...

Multiple categories[edit]

Is there a way to search for articles members of 2 or more specific categories. For example, all articles that are both Category:All_articles_with_unsourced_statements and Category:Birds? Burzmali 20:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 June 13#Intersect to categories (sic) and you can search the Help desk archive for this question. Side note: when you want to display category links so they appear in the text, rather than categorizing the page itself into those categories, place a colon before the category name, like this: [[:Category:Birds]] (see Help:Category). --Teratornis 20:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Burzmali 20:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Neurology categorization[edit]

Under Neurology, there is neurophysiology, neurobiology, neuroanatomy, neurochemistry, medical diagnostics, and perhaps a few that I haven't thot of. I want to put them there as subcategories. How? 03:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of Category:Neurology is a link to the parent category Category:Neuroscience. That has many subcategories including Category:Neurophysiology which has the subcategory Category:Neurochemistry. It's not my field and I don't know what would be the most logical structure, but we try to avoid that the same category is subcategory of a lot of related categories which already link to eachother. Related categories can become hard to navigate if they are large and filled with the same subcategories. PrimeHunter 03:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
See also Help:Category and Wikipedia:Categorization. PrimeHunter 03:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I put neurology and neuroscience as categories of each other, because they are synonyms, or so very nearly so as to be easily confused. I'll just undo that. 02:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


Japanese/Chinese characters[edit]

I am using Firefox on Windows XP, and every Japanese and Chinese (among others) show up as question marks. How do I fix this? 20:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Multilingual support (East Asian).-gadfium 21:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Add information[edit]

I would like to know how to add information to an already exisiting page. Example: If I want to add a store to a designer's page, like where to find there pieces, how would I go about doing that?

Use the "edit this page" tab, or click on one of the "edit" links which appear next to each section header to edit just that part of the page.-gadfium 21:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Code[edit]

I'm curious about a submission I made for Filmmaker James Myer that was deleted. His work is notable: (His documentary, Multiple Personality: Reality and Illusion chronicled the life of Chris Costner-Sizemore, the first person diagnosed with MPD, and portrayed in The Three Faces of Eve. This and other international work was linked and verifiable on the submission at James Myer] at the Internet Movie Database, and otherwise linked to Wikipedia and other sites.

I checked the deletion log... there were no codes, the only thing I could make out of it was "and the only contributor was Jazzzzy", which is myself. Do submissions require more than one contibutor? If so, it's unusual as I have seen many with only one contributor. Could someone please give me a reason or code as to why this submission was deleted? I would like to know, as this was my first submission and if I had done something wrong, I'd like to correct it.



The log is not very great there, it is because it was about an "unremarkable person", not because you are the only contributor. GDonato (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Also note that IMDB is not considered a WP:RS reliable source, as things get added to it all the time with little or no confirmation. -- Kesh 21:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Kesh: Thanks for your reply. IMDB may have been that way in the beginning, however I find them very stringent today regarding submission. Everyone that I've made has had to have verification. Also, other links were made to sources here at Wiki.
The page was tagged as not asserting notability, but I think adequate assertion was made. You should take this to WP:DRV to get the deletion reviewed.-gadfium 21:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
gadfium, Thanks for your direction and the link! Jaz
IMDB is really not much better today. Supposedly "official" release dates, even projects that have been "announced" only to find out it only exists in a PR department's ads... all they do is report that someone has made a statement. They don't find out if the film is actually in production, just that somebody somewhere said they wanted to make it. Actor's profiles get padded. It's just not reliable. -- Kesh 22:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Last thought on this... I'm wondering, if IMDB is that unreliable, why does Wiki allow thousands of links to it? -Jaz
For the same reason blogs, forum posts and other unreliable links are 'allowed' on Wikipedia: an editor who is aware the link is unreliable hasn't noticed it yet and removed it. The site isn't blacklisted or anything, so we can't prevent it from being used. But, like YouTube, it's not reliable, so many editors will delete the links on sight unless a very good reason can be made for including it. -- Kesh 23:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Heritage imformaation[edit]

My Mother is from a tribe right outside of Missouri, I want to contact my relatives, I belive the tribe is choka —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
You could look through Category:Native American tribes by state although that might be a bit tedious. If "right outside of Missouri" means a bordering state, then see Missouri which says: It is bordered by eight states Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska. A search of Wikipedia for: choka finds no results that sound like a Native American tribe; are you sure you have the correct spelling? --Teratornis 02:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

How to Redirct a page (or how to correct an error in the page header)[edit]

I created an article on composer Maurice Goldman...however, it is displayed as follows: "Maurice goldman," with a lower case g on the subject's last name. I'm certain this happened because I entered the name incorrectly and Wikipedia just repeated my error. My quesion i, how do I correct this? I notice on other pages that were or created with an incorrect case in the letter, that they have been redirected to a page with the proper capitalization. If this is the case, can a Wikipedia editor make the correction, or do I have to do it via a #redirect. I have searched many hours and in vain for a method of doing this. Please advise. Thank you very much.

Mrmrsgwangi 23:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have moved the page for you to the proper name. Renaming in the way preserves the page's edit history which we need for copyright purposes. The move tab is at the top right of pages near the "history" and "watch" tabs. When you move a page the old page name becomes a redirect to the old page name so the prior name will now take you straight to the proper name.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

RELATED QUESTION: I am having the same problem with the Newswomen's Club of New York entry I created last week -- the name is appearing in lowercase in the title. I don't see a "move" tab in the place where you said it should be...

Table of contents[edit]

Is there a code to automatically set up a table of contents in an article please ? thisisace 23:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

__TOC__ --ST47Talk 23:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Worked it out now ! thisisace 23:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

For further reference, see: Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). --Teratornis 01:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Archive of Talk:Catherine Bell[edit]

I tried to follow the directions for the "move" procedure for archiving a page found on WP:archive#Move_procedure, but I seem to have erred somewhere. Talk:Catherine Bell is acting as a redirect to Talk:Catherine Bell/Archive 1 even though I thought I deleted the redirect and replaced it with actual text. It does have content, but you have to click on the "redirected from" bit on the top of the page to read it. Could someone fix the problem I caused and tell me how I can avoid this mistake in the future? Thanks! Enuja 23:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It appears to be working fine for me. You may have to bypass your browser's cache to see the proper page. This is one reason I dislike move-archives, they cause a lot of confusion. -- Kesh
Errr, it seems to be working fine, now. Maybe I will stick to copy&paste archives in the future. Enuja 00:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Please do. Having the talk page history spread throughout a number of archives isn't a feature, it's a bug, in my opinion. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)