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C, C, & C. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
C-class. See Talk:Inazuma Eleven (manga) for comments. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Start-class. See Talk:Rōmon for commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Start Class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
B-Class. See Talk:Glossary of Japanese swords for Commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Assessed Start class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)



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Japan[edit]

Honebuto Hoshin[edit]

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Looks like an attempt to translate the ja:WP article ja:骨太の方針 (honebuto-no-hōshin), for some reason changing the Japanese title. Unless 'honebuto hoshin' is actually in use in English, the title should be something understandable, like "Foundation policy" or whatever. Imaginatorium (talk) 12:44, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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keep. Cleanup. Link from other Japanese internal politics article, to ensure visibility and hence cleanup Poor choice of title is not the reason for deletion. -M.Altenmann >t 19:30, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
  • English options include "Basic Policies for Economic and Fiscal Management and Structural Reform" (per Tokyo Metropolitan Government, here), "Basic Policies" (from Tomohiko Shinoda's Contemporary Japanese Politics: Institutional Changes and Power Shifts here), or "Robust Policy," closer to a literal translation, which is found in Glen Hook's book Contested Governance in Japan: Sites and Issues. This is also evidence that there is coverage in English establishing notability, so keep. Dekimasuよ! 20:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Comment Yes, I see these points. But 骨太の方針 is not a topic, it is a slogan, and WP is not a dictionary. It would be appropriate to mention the slogan somewhere in the article on recent Japanese government policy. I feel that there are vastly too many articles in en:WP which are simply listings of foreign (Japanese in particular). Also, the English of the article is so bad that it would generally be easier to start again. Imaginatorium (talk) 03:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
why you decided it is a slogan? even it were, there are wp articles on slogans; we have a full Category:Slogans of them. Also, English is never a reason for deletion. Not to say that the article is quite informative. -M.Altenmann >t 04:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep – The English is not that great. But I copy edited one paragraph, and although it's still not great it only took about 10 minutes. It shouldn't take that long to do the rest. About the topic, whatever it may have meant originally, by now I think it's just the customary name for the policy adopted by the Council on Economic and Fiscal Policy, namely the LDP's official policy. It doesn't matter that much what we call it. If there are problems with the article name we can discuss it on the Talk page. – Margin1522 (talk) 06:39, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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  • Delete. Reads like an essay, possibly part of the ongoing Kyoto University class assignment, and it is still not clear to me what the article is actually trying to explain. --DAJF (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Comment – I think it's trying to explain the term. People who read the news in Japanese see this a lot and many will probably wonder what the heck is a "thick-boned policy"? Takenaka, who was Koizumi's chief policy adviser, recently wrote this explanation, which I have added to ja:骨太の方針. Amid the ongoing struggle between politicians and bureaucrats for control of the budget, this is the policy statement of the politicians' side. Understanding this helps make sense of the news. – Margin1522 (talk) 02:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Transition of education in Japan[edit]

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Rambling essay in not-quite-English; not encyclopedic title or content Imaginatorium (talk) 12:34, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • Delete. I agree with the WP:TNT view above. This is just a rambling essay filled with original research, and the same characteristic style used for citations suggests this part of the ongoing Kyoto University student assignment. --DAJF (talk) 01:16, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Secret 1st Japan Tour[edit]

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The only sourcing here relates to individual shows/factoids; there is no general, in-depth discussion in reliable sources of the tour as a whole, as is required by WP:NTOUR--there are, actually, no reliable references in this article at all. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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Madoka Mako[edit]

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I'm not convinced that she meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG, but it is obviously difficult when sources are mainly in Japanese. The previous AfD was mainly closed as 'keep' because it was nominated within two minutes of the article's creation and people felt it was WP:bitey. Boleyn (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • Delete I'm afraid. Even using "まどか まこ" in my search I fail to find enough coverage in reliable sources. Just a question though: does anyone know how her real name (Misuzu) is written in Japanese? Perhaps there could be more hits under that search term. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Kensei[edit]

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Contested PROD. Original reason was Unsourced since 2009 - the only source is a dictionary entry. I checked several Japanese dictionaries (daijisen, daijirin, Nihon Kokugo Daijiten) and none of them makes any mention of it being an honorary title - daijs only says "剣術にすぐれ、奥義を極めた人。" (person who is extremely skilled at fencing). It's telling that there's no entry for this in the Japanese wikipedia. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • This might work better as a list, if we don't have one already; the Japanese Wikipedia does have a dab page at ja:剣豪 that leads to ja:剣豪人物一覧 ("List of [Japanese] master swordsmen"). Dekimasuよ! 20:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • The Japanese Wikipedia also has ja:昭和の剣聖 ("Kensei of the Showa period") which is more specific to kendo. Dekimasuよ! 20:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Delete. Looks like a collection of original research regarding both the claimed definition of kensei and the list of names who are supposedly kensei. --DAJF (talk) 14:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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  • Delete Certainly needs more references than just a single dictionary reference - I think the original PROD was correct. The Japanese articles mentioned above are not the same thing and a lot of what was written in the article is different from my understanding - it really isn't a title as such just that occasionally it was a term used in association with a particular swordsman. Sort of like calling the occasional King 'the Great'. Without supporting references I would call original research. A wiktionary entry at best.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Delete The phrase gets very few hits on Google or the Japanese wikipedia. The Japanese article for Miyamoto Musashi does not use the phrase to describe him, but the article for the Musashi Museum does. Regardless, I do not think this is a very notable term. Regarding the reference to the Kenkyusha dictionary, I understood the reference being to the term that is being compared to, Kenshi. I think I have access to that dictionary (but perhaps not the same edition), so I will check which term is actually printed. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 05:53, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Convert into a dab page. We've got Kensei (horse), Kensei: Sacred Fist, and several BLPs, such as Kensei Mizote and Kensei Hasegawa. If it gets deleted, I might just create the dab myself. If I can remember, that is. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:32, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
    That's not a bad idea, but I think it should happen after what's there now is deleted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:04, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Concur - I was watching for this if NinjaRobotPirate couldn't remember.Peter Rehse (talk) 19:06, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Shukko[edit]

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This is a description of a particular Japanese word relating to job conditions. WP is not a dictionary, and any worthy material should be incorporated into an article with an English title, such as "Job conditions in Japan". Imaginatorium (talk) 18:21, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Rambling essay filled with original research. --DAJF (talk) 23:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
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  • Keep but major revision, or delete per WP:TNT. The concept is notable and spawns a not-bad number of sources discussing it specifically, including general discussions and specific case studies alike as from this search I tried. 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 13:17, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Anime and manga[edit]

Madoka Mako[edit]

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I'm not convinced that she meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG, but it is obviously difficult when sources are mainly in Japanese. The previous AfD was mainly closed as 'keep' because it was nominated within two minutes of the article's creation and people felt it was WP:bitey. Boleyn (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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  • Delete I'm afraid. Even using "まどか まこ" in my search I fail to find enough coverage in reliable sources. Just a question though: does anyone know how her real name (Misuzu) is written in Japanese? Perhaps there could be more hits under that search term. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:00, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Wifione Message 18:52, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

My Hero Academia[edit]

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Also known as Boku no Hiro Academia. Recent series from Shonen Jump. Only six months old which makes it difficult to establish notability due to a lack of critical discussion or impact outside of fan opinions. Being in Jump does not itself give notability. While we have sales data for the first (and so far only) collected volume), this alone is not enough to prove notability. I believe that future notability is likely, but at this moment it's yet to be established by the standard we impose on other articles. Therefore I would suggest userfication so the article can be developed until it becomes more notable.

I have done a basic search for the series but unsurprisingly most results are for illegal hosting of the series or fan comments. ANN didn't turn up any obvious info beside it launching and the sales chart for the period it was released. I have already asked the original poster and the user who added some information to the article if they had any further info to add and they both said no - neither objected to the idea of an AFD. SephyTheThird (talk) 00:09, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Alright, so what else would you need to make it notable? -A random editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.191.148.3 (talk) 16:47, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Broadly speaking, some sort of third-party coverage. Like an actual review or something. Doesn't even have to be in English. 12.249.243.118 (talk) 16:51, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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Comment: This seems to be an interview about it. Can someone who knows Japanese see if it is? Also, is this a review?--Cattus talk 03:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
The first one is an interview with Horikoshi's editor. The second is a review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC6A:D800:DC34:101D:1605:EDC0 (talk) 01:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.--Cattus talk 12:40, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, I think the article is sufficiently notable now. What do you guys think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.191.148.3 (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep - Arguably, the mere fact it charted at all should be enough to establish notability. Not every manga ever gets to do that. For example, manga such as YuruYuri and Sakura Trick have articles despite never charting, although that's because they have anime adaptation. Plus it already has a review, so it should be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:59, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
The problem with "charting at all" is that it then becomes very easy to say something is notable when it only just creeps onto a chart with 500 copies. Clearly this isn't remotely like that but it could be taken by some as an excuse to use the same argument for much more obscure works. Your second point pretty much answers itself. As the review is hosted by a print publisher I agree we probably have enough when combined with the chart figure. The work itself seems like it's going to be around for a while, but it's unusual for Jump series to become notable in 6 months. I'd also argue that the page has improved from the exposure. SephyTheThird (talk) 16:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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