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This month's newest articles[edit]

The following are some of the newest Japan-related articles on Wikipedia for the month of January. Please feel free to edit this list.

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Manually maintained list[edit]

C, C, & C. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
C-class. See Talk:Inazuma Eleven (manga) for comments. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Start-class. See Talk:Rōmon for commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Start Class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
B-Class. See Talk:Glossary of Japanese swords for Commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Assessed Start class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)



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Japan[edit]

Cowcow[edit]

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Non-notable. The article is unsourced and I could not find enough independent reliable sources to establish notability. --L235 (talk) Ping when replying 04:30, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep Just abandoned/very underworked. Try this search if your search fails. Recent fame persists with Atarimae Taisou (あたりまえ体操?) is also worth checking out. [1][2][3][4][5] 野狼院ひさし Hisashi Yarouin 06:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep The current article is close to a BLP violation (an unsourced claim of being "not very popular"), but that is not a reason to delete the page. The links provided by Hisashiyarouin above are a sample of the sources available. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 04:45, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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Pluto (2016 film)[edit]

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The film outlined in this topic has not been made, even after the rights to create the film were acquired by a company to do so in 2010. Since then, there has not been any news in regards to this film being made or being in production. Also, this article was formerly a redirect to Pluto (manga)#Film adaptation, but since there has been no reportable news in regards to the future of this film, or if it will even be started, this is a complete WP:CRYSTALBALL situation. Steel1943 (talk) 23:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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  • The problem I see with the option of retargeting this title to its applicable section is: the date in the disambiguator is actually a year that not even sources site. It was given its current year disambiguator to move its attributions and allow Pluto (2012 film) to move over Pluto (film). So, unless a different disambiguator can be decided on that does not include a year, the redirect could be interpreted as misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 08:44, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete for now. Acquiring the rights to something doesn't always guarantee a result. So, to be safe, delete the page, wait until we get more confirmation on this film, and once we do, remake the page; plans change, you know. Pyrotlethe "y" is silent, BTW. 02:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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Dance Dance Revolution (Bemani Pocket video games)[edit]

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Non-notable topic. I can't find any reliable sources that cover these games. It's possible that non-English print sources do exist. I'd imagine that older Japanese magazines, for example, do cover them. So no prejudice against recreating the article if sources are located in the future. Thibbs (talk) 19:47, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Bunny Girl[edit]

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No evidence of significant, reliable, secondary coverage to satisfy WP:GNG, neither in article nor in web searches. Lots of blogs, deviantart, and anime wikis though. Possible original synthesis of the Playboy Bunny costume. --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC) --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Franbunnyffxii (talk) 00:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC) Neither page discusses the unique history behind the bunnygirl trope itself though. I've yet to finish the page. The origin and history of the bunnygirl trope is very different from the Moe trope, and the history goes beyond anything stated within the Playboy Bunny page as the trope is not confined to either the japanese moe or american waitress appearance.

The only way we can be sure this trope is notable and not based on your own opinion, original research, or fancruft is if you supply and reference reliable sources that discuss the trope. To claim the subject is worth an article, you must offer proof that reliable sources, have covered the topic, which is required by Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. --Animalparty-- (talk) 03:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Franbunnyffxii: If you want, we can WP:USERFY the article for you, so you can continue to work on it in your userspace and it can be moved back when the article is ready. However, as Animalparty says, reliable sources would still be needed to prove notability of the topic. Satellizer (´ ・ ω ・ `) 08:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

So basically it comes down to a matter of opinion as to what is worthy of an article or not. I had an interest in creating the page for the sake of sharing the unique history behind the trope as it differentiates from other tropes of a similar background but if said topic is going to be left up to the opinion of another's as to whether the article is worthy of publication, then it defeats the point of working on said article in the first place. The references that I had previously posted would refer back to the history of the trope, but if these can't be used or referenced then the information supporting the trope is unfairly rejected. Rather a large set of references from other pages would have to be used. EG the usage of the trope in the a 2003 game, and other media usage of the trope. Are these not viable references? If not then much of wikipedia is unverifiable. The trope supersedes its origins, and to prove this as a verifiable source this history would have to be posted else where first as a reference? Franbunnyffxii (talk) 20:21, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I would also like to note that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catgirl Is a page with the same intent and value with less references that are possible and usable for information. Simply viewing the historical origin and then the modern version of the Bunny Girl trope automatically provides enough evidence that the trope is different from others. By reference if provided that the history of the trope as it occurs first in american culture (playboy bunny) to be picked up by Japanese culture to be used in the game Final Fantasy Advanced tactics: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Viera "They first appeared in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance." and eventually reitterated again in Final Fantasy XII as an entrance to mainstream video game publication, and then again reitterated through out japanese "kawaii culture" as an associated kenomomimi. Following the history of the trope also included the instance of Riven in the game League of Legends with her "Battle Bunny" skin(theme appereance) http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/File:Riven_BattleBunnySkin.jpg and then again in the game WildStar with the Aurin http://wildstar.gamepedia.com/Aurin Elaborate as to how to cite these references? As their occurence is important in following the history of the trope as it does not adhere to the assumed "moe anthro" association. The trope is not directly associated with japanese culture but rather was reitterated by it, as provided by the fact that the playboy bunny was originated from american culture.

This provided far more references and prove historical origin beyond what the Catgirl page provides. So why does the catgirl page receive its own when it has little validity outside of being a subset of a the larger Moe anthro and Kenomimi culture which it belongs, but Bunny girl does not when it's not directly associated and does not specifically belong to moe anthro and kenomimi? Franbunnyffxii (talk) 20:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Franbunnyffxii: It is not at all a matter of opinion. It is a matter of of Notablity, which requires evidence: e.g. you or anyone else providing a couple reliable sources that discuss the topic in depth, such as a book (not a comic book), news feature, article by a renowned artist or pop-culture scholar, or something that wasn't posted by an anonymous user on a website that profits from promoting anime fandom. Wikias like you mentioned are user-generated sources, and are not considered reliable. Your article currently includes one source that is not even about the anime trope but the Playboy Bunny, and a list of characters that look sort of like bunnies.
It is true that Wikipedia has articles on things it shouldn't have. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Catgirl may also warrant deletion, and I agree it is not well sourced, but it appears to at least meet the barest minimum claim to notability in that Fred Patten devoted an article to the subject. Articles of that caliber and better are the types we would need to cite to demonstrate a subject is notable in the real world. --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I linked other references but those were considered unworthy apparently. The Viera article references are not valid then?

↑ 1.0 1.1 Final Fantasy XII Scenario Ultimania Page 88. ISBN 4-7575-1696-7

↑ Final Fantasy XII Scenario Ultimania Page 88. ISBN 4-7575-1696-7

↑ Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Radio Edition, Vol. 3 (Chapter 10)

Furthering the question of validity of Wikia

What about the reference to Riven's Battle Bunny outfit from League of Legends?

What about the reference to Aurin from WildStar? http://wildstar.gamepedia.com/Aurin

Whether or not these exist is not debatable, they do exist and are definite examples of said trope. These are able to be viewed and placed outside of the wikia reference. Franbunnyffxii (talk) 01:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

How would I reference these things above as to which to provide said evidence for the trope itself? Point be made that the trope exists beyond the bounds of the expectation, and there are book references, as well as other pop culture references. There is no question that this trope does infact exist outside of both the playboy bunny origin, and Japanese kawaii culture. One does not need to be world renowned or an expert to prove that something exists.

Franbunnyffxii (talk) 01:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Please don't think that we're trying to prevent an article about bunny girls from existing on Wikipedia. I, for one, am all for having such an page. However, reliable sources (if you haven't read the linked page before, then I highly recommend you read it) must be present in every Wikipedia article in order to prove that it is notable enough to be worthy of inclusion in the encyclopaedia. If you believe such sources exist; that's great, like I said we can userfy the article for you so that you can work on it in your own time. Satellizer (´ ・ ω ・ `) 10:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep Although I admit that this article needs some work, I'm opposed to deleting it outright. This is a topic that I feel deserves coverage. Bensci54 (talk) 04:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
See WP:ILIKEIT, WP:Existence ≠ Notability, and WP:Subjective importance. There is as yet no evidence that sources with a reputation for fact-checking or critical analysis feel it deserves coverage. --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:46, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
  • CommentFranbunnyffxii, what the article needs is more sources like this one: The Anime Machine, a book on anime. When I searched it for "bunny", there were 5 references. You could look for game reviews or descriptions of famous characters (in books and magazines, not fan sites). Ideally one that discusses bunny ears in some depth, or at least as part of the moe + animal trope. If you can find 3 or 4 more references like the book, that should be enough evidence for an article. – Margin1522 (talk) 11:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Super Junior K.R.Y. Special Winter Concert[edit]

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Fails WP:NTOUR. No references to reliable secondary sources. Article is just a setlist and list of tour dates. Random86 (talk) 22:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep - Some contents with references were added after "Nomination for deletion" was marked. Please determine whether the page meet the criteria for content of the encyclopedia or not. - 830701like (talk) 13:38, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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Delete Fails WP:NTOUR. There is no real discussion of the tour as a tour. Claims of ticket sales and ticket applications come from kpopstarz, a blog, who in turns "thanks" the artist's own agencies for the information. Therefore, nothing in this article comes from sources independent of the artist and it is basically a press release. There is nothing to make a claim of notability.

  • Redirect and merge to Super Junior-K.R.Y. The problem with these tour articles is that they are based on advance information for fans. That is, they are PR. The list of venues and dates is for fans who want to buy tickets. After the tour is over, who cares about the dates or venues? This article did have one review of a concert, and I think that's OK as a source. It should be handled in the main article, in the section "Tours and concerts". That could have a short description of the attendance, some of the venues, and some of the songs. The tour itself is just not notable enough (WP:NTOUR) to have a separate article. The same goes for Super Junior K.R.Y. The 1st Concert. Both tours should have 1 paragraph each in the "Tours and concerts" section of the main article. – Margin1522 (talk) 08:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Merge this article and Super Junior K.R.Y. The 1st Concert to Super Junior-K.R.Y. as BOTH tours can easily be explained in just one short paragraph (separately, of course) in the Super Junior-K.R.Y. article. Tibbydibby (talk) 02:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC)





Anime and manga[edit]

Pluto (2016 film)[edit]

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The film outlined in this topic has not been made, even after the rights to create the film were acquired by a company to do so in 2010. Since then, there has not been any news in regards to this film being made or being in production. Also, this article was formerly a redirect to Pluto (manga)#Film adaptation, but since there has been no reportable news in regards to the future of this film, or if it will even be started, this is a complete WP:CRYSTALBALL situation. Steel1943 (talk) 23:00, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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  • The problem I see with the option of retargeting this title to its applicable section is: the date in the disambiguator is actually a year that not even sources site. It was given its current year disambiguator to move its attributions and allow Pluto (2012 film) to move over Pluto (film). So, unless a different disambiguator can be decided on that does not include a year, the redirect could be interpreted as misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 08:44, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete for now. Acquiring the rights to something doesn't always guarantee a result. So, to be safe, delete the page, wait until we get more confirmation on this film, and once we do, remake the page; plans change, you know. Pyrotlethe "y" is silent, BTW. 02:45, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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