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Correspondence[edit]

To Nyttend: I am now preparing to submit "Batch07" focussing on Ohio state issues only. I rearranged sections here to put easy typo correction items first, and to put harder-for-National-Register-to-correct items later. The listed-but-demolished cases all will require state SHPO contact and approval, if not requiring SHPO to do field confirmations and for them to submit a separate change request form to the National Register in Washington, D.C. Could you please take a look through and edit further? ALL CAPS notes there indicate something is needed, like a decision about what we want to request. About the items within section "street address issues: harder", and for other items, are we (meaning you :) ) willing to do further research which would make the National Register's changes easier? I wonder if we should ask for the NRHP documents for those ones, instead of requesting that they check the NRHP documents and/or do other research towards making corrections. If we (you) would be interested in getting and using the NRHP docs to create/develop articles, it could possibly make sense to postpone change requests for those. You would then have to say which ones of those you would like to get NRHP docs for, instead. On the other hand, it would be fine to request to them that they do the research, and/or sort it out with state/local staff where needed. I'll wait for some response from you before submitting this batch, which is otherwise nearly ready to go. doncram (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was some chat at my Talk page. I'm renumbering, dropping the Federal Plaza one, and submitting the Batch07 numbered items below. --doncram (talk) 16:35, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have heard nothing back yet regarding my email of February 2, and I sent a followup inquiry today, May 25. --doncram (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listed or not?[edit]

  • ^ a b Nancy Recchie (December 1984). "East Liverpool Central Business District Mulitiple Resource Assessment (partial: history/architecture)". National Park Service.

    • --doncram (talk) 14:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Masonic Temple (Springfield, Ohio), listed or not, on December 17, 2008, refnum = 08001195. The National Register's NRIS database indicates that the building's listing status is "DR", which signifies "DATE RECEIVED/PENDING NOMINATION".[1] In cases of similarly indicated status, it has turned out the place was later fully NRHP-listed while the NRIS status was erroneously not updated.

    "The temple was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2008.[1][2] In nominating the temple for inclusion on the Register, the Ohio Historical Society highlighted its significance as the home of the oldest fraternal organization in Springfield."[3]

    1. ^ a b "National Register Information System". National Register of Historic Places. National Park Service. March 13, 2009.
    2. ^ Weekly List of Actions Taken on Properties: 12/15/08 through 12/19/08, National Park Service, 2008-12-24. Accessed 2010-07-26.
    3. ^ State Board Recommends 16 Ohio Nominations To The National Register Of Historic Places, Ohio Historical Society, 2008-08-01. Accessed 2010-02-09.

    Some info here copied from article where Nyttend or other editors had added. --doncram (talk) 15:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Property names[edit]

    • The newly listed Inglewood Historic District in Cleveland Heights is bounded by "Inglewwod Dr., Oakridge Dr., Cleveland Heights Blvd., Yellowstone & Glenwood Rds., & Quilliams" — clearly "Inglewood", not "Inglewwod" Nyttend (talk) 13:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • NRHP lists Monroe County bridge as Foreaker Bridge, but Monroe County Engineer (bridge's owner), ODOT, and Monroe County Economic Development Office all say it is Foraker Bridge. I also found a post from a person named Foraker with relatives in the area of the bridge, saying that Foraker is a common name of surrouding people. Considering there is no sign on the bridge itself and the above facts, I would surmise the application was misnamed. [1] [2] [3] Brian Powell (talk) 14:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • William Nooney House in Lorain County — NRIS gives it as "Nooney, William , House"; remove space between "William" and comma". Nyttend (talk) 12:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    References

    1. ^ {{cite web|url=https://battlingbishops.com/sports/2013/7/18/Pfeiffer |title=Pfeiffer Natatorium |publisher=[[Ohio Wesleyan University |access-date=April 30, 2023 }}
    Mistake in NRIS identified by User:Anythingyouwant. The NARA site echoes this error. Ohio Historic Inventory document (available at at NARA version) uses "Pfeiffer" and that is what appears in MPS signatures page. So the error was a typo in NRIS data entry apparently.
    -Doncram (talk,contribs) 12:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    County issues[edit]

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    Town issues[edit]

    • Pisgah Christian Church in Brown County is located "NW of Ripley on Pisgah Rd", but is inexplicably listed in Wilmington, nearly 50 miles to the north. Needs to be changed to Ripley or to Georgetown (through which one must pass to get to Wilmington), or to Union Township, in which it is located. Nyttend (talk) 15:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    architect and architecture issues[edit]

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    • Typo in architect name for Scarlet Oaks: Note refnum 72001021 Plum Street Temple, 8th and Plum Sts., Cincinnati, OH with architect="Wilson,James Keys" while refnum 73001468 Scarlet Oaks, 440 Lafayette Ave., Cincinnati, OH with architect="Wilson,James Key". The correct spelling is Keys not Key, for architect James Keys Wilson. doncram (talk) 23:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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    Need for correction noted by editor SarekOfVulcan. --doncram 12:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Street address issues: easier[edit]

    • White Bridge, in Mahoning County, Ohio: It crosses "Yellow" Creek, not "Yello" Creek. There is no "Yello Creek" in Ohio. Additionally, "Poland Village" is actually the same thing as Poland, Ohio.
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    • Conrad Neff House: There is no such thing as "Canfield-Boardman" Road. It should either be "Boardman-Canfield" Road or U.S. Route 224.
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    • The Booth Homestead in Guernsey County is listed as being "North of Guernsey at 8433 Wheeling Township Rd.", without the number of the road being given; Google Maps shows the road as being TR 838. Nyttend (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The Whitelaw Reid House near Cedarville is listed as being "SW of Cedarville at 2587 Conley Rd."; Conley Road is only to the northwest of Cedarville, so change "SW" to "NW". Nyttend (talk) 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The Ohio Soldiers' And Sailors' Home is listed as being "NE of Sandusky between U.S. 250 and S. Columbus Ave." While the address is right, this is southeast of Sandusky; northeast would be in Lake Erie. Nyttend (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The South Leroy Meetinghouse is listed as being "NE of Painesville at OH 86 and Brakeman Rd.", but this intersection is southeast of the city. Coordinates place it at this intersection, again southeast of Painesville. Nyttend (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Should be changed from "NE" to "SE"
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    • The Marcus Curtiss Inn is listed as being "E of Galena at 3860 Sunbury Rd.", but the location given is directly south, not east, of Galena. Nyttend (talk) 14:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Should be changed from "E" to "S"
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    Change "Medina Lane Rd." to "Medina Line Rd."
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    • The Ambler Heights Historic District in Cleveland Heights is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd., Cedar Clen, N. Park Blvd., and along Harcourt Dr."; correct "Cedar Clen" to "Cedar Glen" per this Cleveland Heights city map. Nyttend (talk) 14:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The William Walker, Jr., House in Upper Sandusky is listed at 132-134 S. 4th St.; it's actually at 132-134 North (not South) Fourth. Coords show it on N. 4th, and this page from a local history book places the house on the corner of Walker and Fourth, which Google Maps shows to be on N. 4th, not S. 4th. Nyttend (talk) 02:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The Wood County Home and Infirmary near Bowling Green is listed as being "North of Bowling Green at 13660 County Home Rd.", but both coordinates and address point to it being southeast of Bowling Green. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    • The Hoover Farm in North Canton is listed as being "S of North Canton on Easton St"; coordinates and address place it east of central North Canton, not south. It's actually within the city limits, but on the far eastern edge. Nyttend (talk) 21:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    NEED TO DETAIL OUT THE SPECIFIC CHANGES NEEDED
      • Central Tower Building, listed February 8, 1980 at 1 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown should be changed from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West No, at least per Elkman system, this is correctly listed at "1 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, Ohio", no change needed.
      • First National Bank Building, listed February 8, 1980, 6 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, should be changed from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West NO, per Elkman, this is correctly listed at "6 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, Ohio"
      • Jay's Lunch, listed July 23, 1986, 258 Federal Plaza West, needs change from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West No this is correctly listed at 258 Federal Plaza W.
      • Kress Building, listed July 23, 1986, 111-121 Federal Plaza West, needs change from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West, no this is correctly listed at Federal Plaza W.
    THERE ARE A NUMBER MORE "FEDERAL PLAZA" ITEMS IN MAHONING LIST TO CHECK
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    • U.S. Post Office and Chester Town Hall in Chesterville are both listed at the junction of Sandusky and South Streets, which don't intersect. The buildings are both located at the junction of Sandusky and Short Streets; NRIS coordinates accurately show both buildings there.. Nyttend (talk) 01:20, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Metropolitan Block in Lima is listed at "300 N. Main St"; need to add a period after "St" Nyttend (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    street address issues: harder[edit]

    Addressing the items in this section may require obtaining NRHP nomination document and also referring to atlases or other sources, and making some judgment. Wikipedia editors' suggested changes indicated here.

    • Foreaker Bridge in Morgan County is listed "3 miles east of Graysville on U.S. Route 40" — my Ohio Atlas and Gazetteer shows it on a small rural road, and U.S. 40 is in Belmont County, over 30 miles to the north. Nyttend (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest change from "U.S. Route 40" to "County Road 40 (Plainview Road)"
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    • Round Barn near Van Wert (Van Wert County) is listed along State Route 224. Here in fact it's a U.S. Route, instead, U.S. Route 224, not a state route — this is a common error made by residents of western Ohio. --Nyttend
    Suggest change from State Route 224 to U.S. Route 224.
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    • Van Wert Bandstand near Van Wert is listed along State Route 127, but it's really U.S. Route 127. I repeat my comments from the Round Barn given above. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest change from State Route 127 to U.S. Route 127
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also Google or other on-line, current maps, and then making some determination.
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    Nyttend (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

      • SR 541 previously was numbered SR 271 before the Interstate was built. The original SR 271 used to extend east of I-77 but was truncated after Salt Fork lake was built.
    So NRHP nomination info may been correct originally, but location needs updating. Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    • The Peter B. Sarchet House in Guernsey County is listed along State Route 365; this state highway is exclusively located in Logan County on the other side of the state. My Ohio Atlas and Gazetteer shows it on Oldham Rd. Nyttend (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    • The Claysville School in Guernsey County is listed along State Route 15; this state highway is located in northwestern Ohio, while Guerney County is in eastern Ohio. My Ohio Atlas and Gazetteer shows it on Claysville Rd. Nyttend (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps to accept "Claysville Rd." instead.
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    • Samuel Danford Farm, Church and Cemetery in Noble County is listed "North of Summerfield on State Route 5-A" — State Route 5 is in the northeastern corner of the state (Noble County being in the southeastern part of the state), and I can't find evidence for a separate 5A. Google Maps places it along a County Road 5A. Nyttend (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest change "State Route 5-A" to "County Road 5A"
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    Suggest change from "U.S." to "State Route" for both.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, probably to "Graces Road"
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    • Christ Church At The Quarry near Gambier (Knox County) is listed at the intersection of State Routes 233 and 235. I don't know if there's a State Route 233, but State Route 235 is on the other side of the state. Google Maps shows the roads to be Quarry Chapel and Monroe Mills Rds. Nyttend (talk) 21:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps chaning from State Route 393 to State Route 339
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    • The West Orange Road-Thomas Bridge near Powell (Delaware County) is listed at "OH 114, E of jct. with OH 315". Delaware County is in central Ohio, but State Route 114 is in Putnam County, four counties away in northwestern Ohio. Detailed road atlas shows this location to be Orange Road and nothing more. Nyttend (talk) 14:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps changing to "Orange Road"
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    Demolished but still listed[edit]

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    • Botkins Elementary School in Shelby County: coords place it in a parking lot, and locals told me that it had been torn down and replaced by this parking lot. It's listed along Main St., but there is no school along Main, and the school one block away is clearly far newer than the listed structure. Nyttend (talk) 19:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    Fully spelled out URLs for those photos are at
    doncram (talk) 16:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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    Fully spelled out URLs for those photos are at
    Nyttend (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Coordinates issues[edit]

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