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RE: Help

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Jamesjohnso (talk) 01:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC) I asked a question several weeks ago on my newly created talk page and i have yet to get a response. i'm just wondering if it is even working. How do I talk to people? Can someone respond that can walk me through this site? Contact me on my talk page if you like, jamesjohnso

Replied on user's talk page. TNX-Man 02:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Moving an article from my sandbox into Wikipedia

Hello - I can't seem to figure out how to move an article I've written (currently sitting in my sandbox) into Wikipedia proper. I've looked thru the Help screens and the only reference was to use a "MOVE" button at the top of the page that I just don't see. Sorry to be a pest - Please let me know what I need to do next. Thanks - Mike G - PS - the article is on photographer Karl Ferris Rockpop (talk) 22:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Search for the article title you wish to create: when it doesn't appear, there will be a link that says "create this article". Physically cut and paste your page (not the text, the edit portion) into the space and click save. Page is created. Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Just an additional point - this is pretty much the only situation in which a copy-and-paste move is appropriate. – ukexpat (talk) 15:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Updating references

Hi there,

If I wanted to update external links to a particular category what is seen as acceptable? For example a forum has recently been set up that provides information on the Lough Neagh river system with regards to conservation and angling. This is a place for anglers to find information on each river and a central place to provide others with local conservation plans and updates. Can I add the forum as an external link or will it be removed?

Hudson66 (talk) 14:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You may want to look at WP:EL. It goes over the guidelines for external links. I hope this helps! TNX-Man 14:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) Please refer to our external link guideline and pay special attention to its subsection, links to avoid. Forums are generally not good places to link to; commercial sites that contain advertising are often not appropriate; any sites containing copyright violations on them are a no no; sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject, and so on. Furthermore an external link should provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article; a very high bar. It's hard to analyze your question in the abstract. If you told us where you wanted to place the links and provided the URL of the links we'd be in a better position to judge. Note that adding external links is not the same thing as referencing. I'm not sure if you were speaking loosely when you used the word "references" in your section header, but see Wikipedia:Citing sources for information on that subject. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
While Wikipedia is not a collection of links, the Open Directory Project is. You can go through the ODP and request your link be added, then use template {{dmoz}} to link the ODP category. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Information on userpage

Hi my name is tshepo (user name: tmmolefe) i edited my page and save it in my account under my pages. All the data is correct and i got confused on how to have it formated and put onto wikipedia for all to veiw and use.

Thank you Tshepo Tmmolefe (talk) 16:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Information at Wikipedia:Your first article gives all the information you'll need to create an article here on Wikipedia. Before you actually create the article from the information that you've put on your userpage, please take a look at Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people. If your subjection does not meet those guidelines, it is very likely that the article you create about him will be deleted. Feel free to ask any more questions that you might have! -- Natalya 19:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Page Appeal

I've seen the user pages of other, more experienced Wikipedians and they are quite nice, with little formal, colored boxes containing jokes, their hometown, etc. How do you get these because right now my user page looks rather dull. Also, how do you leave messages at the end of your user name when you post on talk pages? I would like to add one.)Eenyminy (talk) 21:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. It sound like the User page design center is where you want to go. For your signature, you must create it in web markup. See Wikipedia:Signatures. Good luck. Mjpresson (talk) 22:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Also, you can copy the text code from a sig that you like and change the parameters to suit you, and if you want to see how somebody does things just look at the edit page. Mjpresson (talk) 22:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

adding a photo

I need help adding a photo of Rick Bragg to an article about him. I own the photo and it is a very recient one of him speaking at the city museum in Mobile Alabama. ‡ ↔ ↑ ↓ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corelokt1 (talkcontribs) 04:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

If it is a photo you have taken then please go the the Wikimedia Commons, and register for an account (it takes just a moment), then upload the image using the license {{PD-self}}. Once you have done so you can add the image to the article by typing [[Image:File name.jpg|thumb|caption.]] – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and caption with a suitable short description, i.e., "Rick Bragg giving a speech at the City Museum of Mobile, Alabama". See our picture tutorial for more information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Zion Assembly of God Church

is a church —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agjs10 (talkcontribs) 05:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we got that from the part of the name which contains the word church. Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? Are you possibly here about the impending deletion of the article Zion Assembly of God Church? If so, you will need to re-create the article with far more detail as it had no substantive content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information requirements for articles.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


I have the code in my monobook. It has yet to work though. What is up with this problem? Sheila14 (talk) 08:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you make sure to bypass your cache? Someguy1221 (talk) 09:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) What browser are you using? Have you done a hard refresh of the page? (which will bypass your cache for that page load) See also the note above the page content and below the red box at User:Sheila14/monobook.js. How do you know it's not working? Jeremyb (talk) 09:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
TW requires autoconfirmed status. You'll have to wait four days. Algebraist 12:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
You have to be autoconfirmed; you now have ten edits, but your account is not yet four days old. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

End of Article Missing

I was editing Nina and the Neurons, but for some reason the second half of the article is missing after I saved the changes, however when I go back to edit the information is still there, but it won't come back? Any ideas what happened and what can be done to amend this. Thanks. --Gingerzilla (talk) 12:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

This is almost always a reference tag which has not been closed properly. I've fixed it. -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

How do I "submit a draft" as they said in the page about your first article?

I want to make a page about DungeonVenture. Unfortunately, I'm the creator of DungeonVenture, so to comply with this I need to submit a draft: "The article might remain if you have enough humility to make it neutral and you really are notable, but even then it's best to submit a draft for approval and consensus of the community instead of just posting it up as unconscious biases may still exist of which you may not be aware." Wikipedia:Your first article Cowboydb59 (talk) 17:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I get zero Google hits on DungeonVenture so whatever it is, it seems unlikely to currently satisfy Wikipedia:Notability. If you think you have independent published reliable sources to show otherwise then you can create a draft at a user subpage like User:Cowboydb59/Sandbox and for example ask for opinions on the talk page of a relevant WikiProject. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Business (whether or not it's commercial). PrimeHunter (talk) 17:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Vasco de Gamma

Who was Vasco de Gamma?/? (talk) 17:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, this page is for helping people to edit Wikipedia. You might want to try the Reference desk, or look at Vasco da Gama. Regards, --BelovedFreak 19:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Start class article

what is a start class article ben (talk) 00:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

See WP:ASSESS. That should help you out. Wisdom89 (T / C) 00:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Happy Valley AA

There is vandalism in the article Happy Valley AA. An user without logging on always adds a footballer called Alfredo Devoto in the current squad part. We cannot find the information of that footballer in the official website of Happy Valley AA[1]. Especially in Google, we can only find the information in Italian Wikipedia, but no other places. I do not know what I should do, please help. :)--Antonytse (talk) 15:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I have removed [2] the latest addition of the name with an explaining edit summary, posted to Talk:Happy Valley AA, and will watch the article to see if it helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Questions posting an article - help

Hi there. I'm new and trying to get my Fabrik page up and searchable. Couple questions:

  • when I search for fabrik, my page doesn't appear as an option. what am i doing wrong?
  • how can I become an autoconfirmed user so I can upload images/photos?
  • I need to create a disambiguation page for Fabrik. I’ve read through some of the materials, but I’m totally confused.

Help! FabrikInc (talk) 17:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Answer to number2. For most users on, accounts which are more than 4 days old and have made at least 10 edits are considered autoconfirmed. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 20:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Answer to number 1: You didn't create an article (such as, eg. Fabrik (storage company)), you created a user page, User:FabrikInc. User pages do not show up in normal Wikipedia searches, which looks only in main article space by default. Again, once you are autoconfirmed, you will have the ability to move that user page into article space (or, since you're the only editor to your user page at the moment, you can get away with a "copy and paste move", but this generally cannot be done for copyright reasons if there are multiple editors to a page. One concern, however, is the conflict of interest your user name suggests. People are advised against writing articles on companies and people they are closely associated with, due to the likelihood that they will be unable to write the article neutrally, and accounts with names that suggest that they are being used for promotional purposes, or represent a group of people rather than an individual, are often frowned upon. While from a quick look your article probably won't be speedily deleted as it contains clear claims of notability and doesn't read like blatant advertising, I would suggest you read the Wikipedia FAQ for businesses and perhaps get some help from the conflict of interest noticeboard before it falls victim to the more traditional deletion process. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

the entry on Highland Village, Texas


The entry lists the ratings of schools. The entry for Briarhill Middle School states a rating of deplorable. The actual rating according to the website is exemplary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The great thing about Wikipedia is that anyone can edit an article. If there is an mistake on a page, feel free to jump in and fix it. I'll leave you a message on your talk page with some links to get you started. Cheers! TNX-Man 20:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
It was vandalism in [3]. I have reverted it. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Little Black Dress Club

The Little Black Dress Club was started in the fall of 2006 in Washington, DC. It advertises itself as a group of women who want to make new friends and have some great experiences together. The LBD Club started out as a small group of friends but quickly expanded as friends invited friends. Most of the girls' nights out are trying out a bar or restaurant. The group welcomes suggestions from women in the community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwenchen1 (talkcontribs) 03:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I don't see a question in there or any place I can help. If you want to make an article about the Little Black Dress Club, see Your First Article. Paragon12321 (talk) 04:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Also read up on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Based on your short description, I doubt that the LBD Club would be notable as defined by Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Bruce Lee

Not that I'm an expert, but the info on Bruce Lee states that he was born in San Francisco, MY understanding, is that he was actually born in Oakland & years later opened an all nationalities martial arts school there. I know that part, re the school is true, because I attended it in my younger days. I am new to this forum & am seeking protocol & insight on how to best utilize this site. thanks (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC) (talk) 12:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)hollywood50

One of the great things about Wikipedia is that if you see an error, you can jump right in and correct it. However, you may want to discuss the change with other editors on the Bruce Lee talk page. Also, be sure to cite a reliable source to back up your claim. I hope this helps! TNX-Man 13:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
A Google search [4] finds plenty of sources saying he was born in Jackson Street Hospital in San Francisco. Bruce Lee#Early life uses the reference to support that he was born in San Francisco. Do you know a reliable source which claims he was born in Oakland? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Movie posters

What are the criteria for using movie posters on Wikipedia? I have seen them used in some articles and removed by editors from others for violation. So which is the correct procedure? (Copana2002 (talk) 14:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC))

A single use of a low resolution film poster is usually allowed under Fair use/Non-free images policy, as long as it is used in an article for that film and no other purpose. Select "Non-free poster" as the criteria. Mjpresson (talk) 16:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

User page icons

How do I get these kind of boxes {{user en}} in my User pager? Where are the samples for me to copy from? Andvd (talk) 11:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Andvd

These are called userboxes, Information is at Wikipedia:Userboxes; skip down to the Gallery section if you just want to see what is available. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
If you are talking about language boxes specifically, take a look at the {{Babel}} template (see User:Ukexpat/babel for mine). – ukexpat (talk) 16:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Enabling article to be found by searching only on Last Name

Hello. I recently created a page for Mike Greenly. The page is available when the search is for 'Mike Greenly', but it is not available when the search is for 'Greenly'. How can I make the page available when the search is just for his last name? Thank you. George Maniscalco Georgeny1 (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if there is a way to directly search by last name. You may want to add Mike Greenly to this page, as that is the page to which people are directed when they search for just "Greenly". I hope this helps! TNX-Man 16:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
The article in question - Mike Greenly - looks to me like a purely promotional piece so I have tagged it for speedy deletion per G11. – ukexpat (talk) 16:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Creating Stub

I am so confused on how to put a stub on wikipedia. I have everything written out, now what do I do! And I have already been to all the tutorials and information sections and it doesn't say how to put a stub up. If you can help me or give me the name of a user who can help me, I would be very appreciative. Thanks!

ARosend (talk) 16:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Putting up a stub is the same as creating an article. A stub is just a shorter article that can be expanded. This page has the info you need to get started. I hope this helps! TNX-Man 16:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Yup. A stub article is just another article that is smaller, and needs expansion. You just put a {{stub}} tag on it. If you need more help, ask me on my talk page. I'm a participant in the stub sorting project. Synergy 16:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
But also note that stubs can still be deleted per CSD, PROD or Afd if they meet the criteria. Slapping a stub template on a short article doesn't protect it from deletion. WP:YFA is a good place to start. – ukexpat (talk) 16:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Citing source

I give up. I just corrected a sentence on the "Columbus Georgia" page and I want to cite the source. I read all the directions but GUI is a mystery to this 68 year old woman. How do I credit "Columbus Historic Foundation"?Bbahn (talk) 19:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The easiest way if the material is on CHF's website is to enclose the full URL within <ref></ref> tags. Then it will show up in the references section at the end of the article. There is also the {{Cite web}} template for more advanced web site citations. – ukexpat (talk) 19:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding material of interest to some but not all readers.

I would like to know some of the better ways to add material of interest to some but not all readers. For example you may want to add mathematical descriptions for the benefit of some but at the same time avoid confusing or discouraging those who don't want the mathematics. Is it best to write a new Wikipedia article and add a link to it or is there a better way of doing this? RHB100 (talk) 20:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

This isn't a full answer, but if you take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mathematics#Some_issues_to_think_about, there is some discussion on how to handle the complexity of topics in mathematical articles. I hope that is of some help. -- Natalya 21:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Make technical articles accessible. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. These references were interesting even though they did not completely answer my question. In the second reference, I read "Linked sections of the article should ideally start out at about the same technical level, so that if the first, accessible paragraph of an article links to a section in the middle of the article, the linked section should also start out accessible."

This linking from a beginning article to an article in th middle is something I would like to do. How do can I do this? I know the Table of Contents provides links to sections throughout the article but I don't know how to do this from within an article. RHB100 (talk) 00:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Link#Section linking (anchors). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


After editing an article that I wrote with proper references included, my article was included in the main body of the original. When I came back about an hour later, my article was taken out of the original. Why did this happen? How did it happen?Anathasius (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Your content was removed primarily because it appeared to haved been lifted from another published work, the Encyclopedia of the Catholic Church. Any recent publication is assumed to be copyrighted unless otherwise noted, and copyrighted material is generally forbidden by Wikipedia policy. Even if it wasn't copyrighted, there was the additional concern that is was written in the form of dialogue, which is considered poor form. You may be interested in this section of the manual of style. Also, please don't sign your name on articles. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi. I'm new to Wikipedia and accidently messed up the Godchild page while trying to add a review. I'm really confused about how nothing after the reception section shows up, but it is still there in the edit box! Kaguya-chan (talk) 17:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. You forgot to close your <ref> tag. Algebraist 17:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

What's the diff?

I've learned a lot, but what is this editor doing? Mjpresson (talk) 21:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)(addition) Question was posted by new user logged on my account-sorry. Mjpresson (talk) 21:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

As you can see here and in the users edit summary it appears this editor is simply fixing typos (mostly removing redundant words). Happy editing! Scottydude talk 21:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Saving my work

I am currently workking on an article to post on wiki. I am trying to save my work...but when I hit the save button it says I am unauthorized?? Help Please! (talk) 16:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

You must have an account in order to create an article. Furthermore, you must be active for four days and make at least ten edits as well. See WP:Why create an account for more info. TNX-Man 16:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
No, you just need to create an account. autoconfirmed status is not required to create articles. Algebraist 16:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Swing . . . and a miss. My fault and thanks for the heads up! TNX-Man 17:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Once you have created an account, you may find it useful to use a subpage of your user page in order to draft your article before posting it—see Wikipedia:User page#How do I create a user subpage? for more information. -—Pie4all88 T C 18:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, I recommend you have a look at Wikipedia:Your first article for some excellent article-writing tips. — QuantumEleven 11:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Citing a single source

If I write an article and most or all of the information is based on a single source, how do I cite this source correctly? Putting the reference footnote after each sentence, after each paragraph, only after the first sentence, ... ? Thanks. Stefanez (talk) 08:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

If you use only one source, I suggest you put it at the end of the sections, although you are strongly encouraged to use multiple sources. Anonymous101 (talk) 10:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Footnotes#Naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once for another possibility, but if almost everything is from the same source then writing the source without inline citation may be better. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Moving new article into "live" Wikipedia

Hi, I've just created a new article in my sandbox on Napier, Ontario, a village in Middlesex County. I can't figure out how to get it "live" so it comes up when you search. You told someone else to do a search and when it doesn't come up you can just press the button that says "Create the article" and copy and paste it. But when I do a search I get lots of articles that have both Napier and Ontario in them and don't get the button that says "Create the article." Help! (talk) 13:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It appears that Napier, Ontario already exists as an article. If you would like to edit the article, feel free to jump in and get started. Also, in order to create articles, you must have an account. See WP:Why create an account for more info. Cheers! TNX-Man 13:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Napier, Ontario has been a redirect to Adelaide-Metcalfe, Ontario since 1 March 2008. If you want to change it to an article then first click Napier, Ontario, then click "Redirected from Napier, Ontario" at the top, and finally click "edit this page". I made a userspace search and added a references section to User:Sandysfriend so the references are displayed. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Format of DEA number

Your information regarding the format and description of DEA numbers is incorrect. The type of registrant is determined by the Business Activity Code (BAC) which is a separate value and not tied to the DEA registration number. I can provide someone with the documentation provided each month with the file which outlines the definition. Is there someone to whom it can be sent? (talk) 16:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources require published sources. Unpublished information cannot be used. DEA number says the first letter of the DEA number is the registrant type. Are you saying this is incorrect? As I read the article, it doesn't claim that the letter is made for the DEA number. It only says the letter is part of the DEA number (without specifying who originally assigned the letter). But if you have a reliable source saying the letter comes from a previously determined Business Activity Code then that could be relevant information to add to the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Help for a new user regarding being edited off a page.

Dear sirs, I added what I felt to be historically interesting photos from my record summit climb of Mt Rainier. I was startled to find my entry missing without so much as a discussion or trace as to why. Now there are references to Rainier Beer on the page-What does that really have to do with the history and value of our gorgeous mountain? I can see one of my photos still in the commons, but not the other. I wonder who it is that pulls rank and edits another persons entry? I would like to know if I made an error so that I might actively and successfully upload information in the future. If I need to verify, I have references, but need to be taught not just dismissed. Needless to say, I feel very frustrated.Mtrainier7 (talk) 17:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Both images are still stored: Image:Laurie Signing the register w brother Dan Johnson.jpg and Image:Johnson family on Rainier summit 72.jpg. You can see your Commons contributions at [5]. Wikipedia articles are edited all the time and content is often removed for different reasons. That does not mean somebody is pulling rank. When you click edit it says "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it" near the bottom. Click the "history" tab to see edits to a page. Your images were removed in this edit. You can discuss it at Talk:Mount Rainier or directly with the editor at User talk:Hike395. See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest which says to suggest edits involving yourself on the talk page of the article instead of making them on your own. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Automatic logout unobserved, therefore unwillingly published IP-Adress

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Eunous (talk) 18:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

How can I delete or suppress an unwilling publishing of my IP-Address? After log-in I changed the sites in order to change an unfunctional URL of my external link to Horst Peters 2001 in the article of the Platonic dialogue Lysis. But I did not observe a supposed automatically log-out.

As I understand it, there is no way to change who edits are attributed to. I thought I remembered reading that bureaucrats could assign edits from a prolific anonymous user to a newly-created account (especially if exceptional circumstances were involved), but I can't seem to find any reference to that. If your question is not answered here, you can try contacting an admin; they would probably have an idea if it is possible. I will say that I don't think there is reason to worry about your IP address being published—it is passed to every site you visit, it will likely be lost among the millions of other IP addresses that are published here, and it does not give hackers free reign of your computer or anything. Hope this helps. -—Pie4all88 T C 19:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I haven't heard of a process to reattribute edits. It seems that Eunous is asking for oversight; that is complete removal of that revision for privacy reasons. I'm not sure an oversighter would be inclined to do that, simply because it's a procedure usually reserved for removal of private data and an IP is certainly not private. You could always try submitting a request, though. L'Aquatique[talk] 09:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Unable to "undo" vandalism

In having a good look at the article Black Seminoles, I noticed that the majority of previous versions had a "Culture" section, and could find no reason for its disappearance from the page. I searched the revisions and it looks like, in a flurry of vandlising edits by an IP address in Dec '07, the Culture section was replaced with vulgarity and somehow not subsequently re-instated, even though the disruptive edits were removed. My best guess is that a well-meaning individual deleted the rude words, without realising that original text was missing. So, I have just tried to undo the vandalism, in order to bring back the section at the same time, but keep getting this message: "The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits." Does this mean I'm doing something wrong, or is it the length of time / number of edits that have occurred since, or is it because I don't have the "right" to revert, or . . .? If it's just "one of those things", is it best to copy and paste the missing section into the current article? Thanks in advance for any help :) Maedin (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like there are edits between the current edition of the article and the one to which you want to revert, which is why it can't be undone. Your best bet is to copy and paste the missing section back in to the article. Fortunately, it doesn't have anything to do with your user rights nor are you doing anything wrong. I hope this helps! TNX-Man 20:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I realize it may a little confusing when it talks about conflicting edits and I probably didn't do a great job of explaining. Think about it like this. JoeVandal changes the article from A to B. You want to change back to version A, but someone else has already edited the article again. Because someone else has edited the article, Wikipedia won't let you undo JoeVandal's edit. I hope this explains a little better. TNX-Man 20:43, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I can't add to TN's excellent explanation, but what I can do is to re-add the culture section as it appeared in November 2007.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 20:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much to you both for answering my question, though I was hoping that having my question answered, I could have added the section back myself! But thank you, Aua, for doing it, and thank you TN-X-Man for your helpful answers, :) Maedin (talk) 07:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that :$. I can undo myself if you want, then you'd have to find the most recent version of that section.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 08:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
No, lol, it's ok, Aua, was rather childishly hoping for kudos for having done the investigation, but it's not like anyone would have noticed anyway! Thanks for taking care of it :) Maedin (talk) 10:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you pls. help?

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Gammanshord (talk) 18:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I would like to contribute in wikipedia, can you pls help me on how to make my own page?
I will aprreciate all the help... Thnk you very much...--Gammanshord (talk) 18:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, a concise guide to creating a new article. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
If you're talking about your user page, take a look at WP:USER. Please be aware that Wikipedia is not a social networking site; your user page is not supposed to be used like Facebook, for example. Rather, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; editors are expected to be here to contribute to building an encyclopedia. If that isn't what you want to do, please see the list of alternatives. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Credit for previous edits

Over the last year I've edited a half dozen or so articles. Today I finally got around to creating an account. Is there any way to claim the user histories and edit credit of the two IP addresses I used previously? I am the only user to have made edits with those IP addresses. Thanks in advance. — Brroga (talk) 03:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. The best you can do is put on your user page something like: Previously edited as [[User:insert IP address]]. – ukexpat (talk) 04:26, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Leonard "Len Len" Traynor

Leonard "Len Len" Traynor was born in London on the 16th of july 1989. He moved to Dublin when he was six and has been residing there ever since. His best friend is Ian "Chopper" Lowry who is a Dublin socializer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenaldinho (talkcontribs) 13:02, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question? Leonard "Len Len" Traynor does not seem to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) and should therefore not get a Wikipedia article. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Also note Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons which caused me to remove some of your post. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Would adding the name/mascot of town I grew up in to the towns page be primary research==bad?

Hi, I randomly found my home town's page on Widipedia, and wanted to contribute to the knowledge bank here regarding that town. I noticed that there was no mention of the middle/high school mascot or colors. I'm sure if I really really hunted the net, I could find them, but I KNOW what they are because I grew up there, and my parents still live there. Is this an instance of 'original research' or more of 'common knowledge' (as in anyone living in that town attending that school would know, and they're not about to publish a 12 page paper with cited references to say so... Any advice on how to contribute would be great. ThanksNorthernOtter (talk) 02:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

If it hasn't been published then it wouldn't satisfy Wikipedia:Verifiability. For simple neutral information like this, a brief mention on the official website of the school should be an acceptable source. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Messed Up X-26 Frigate page this PM  ?

I attempted to change the title of the "X-26 Frigate" article to "X-26 Aircraft"

Because the X-26 Program eventually included the X-26A Frigate and the motorized X-26B Quiet Thruster versions: QT-2, QT-2PC, and QT-2PCII.

I thought that my last edit really messed up the page, But maybe not. It now looks OK.

I might have duplicated the page as X-26 Aircraft and messed it up: The original good formatting was lost along with an image of the X-26a Frigate.

Please help me fix the errors.

~~QAAPNO~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qaanpo (talkcontribs) 02:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

All fixed! No worries - all I (or you, in the future) had to do was revert the page back to the version where the formatting was correct (that link has all the information how to do just that). If you want to change the title of the actual article, the page will need to be moved, but if you think that the move might be contentious, you should probably disucss it on the article's talk page first. -- Natalya 02:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Fantastic! Now I see what was done by you Thanks! QAANPOQaanpo (talk) 03:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

the naming of the Lorna Doone Cookie

I was told last night that my great Uncle worked for Nabisco before he retired and that he had a very good job there and was responsible for naming the Lorna Doone Cookie. I know the family to be very honest and would not make such an assertion if it were not true, but I would like to verify this fact to add it to my research on my family ancestry. How can The time frame of the naming certainly fits in with his employment history. How can I verify this71.176.59.130 (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. -- Natalya 17:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

faxing a document

i am enquiring from outside Canada, i want to fax a document to Calgary, Canada. but i dont know the country code. the fax number given to me is 4032212729.. can some one help me sort this out???

thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

The Reference Desk is the proper place to ask this, but in any event the country code for Canada is 1 (same as the USA). I use a very useful free app called Country Codes[6], works like a charm.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Attaching notice that a page is being rewritten

I am completely rewriting an article. For convenience, I am rewriting it in my private sandbox. I don't want to get rid of the old article until I am finished. I would like to put up a notice on the old article inviting anyone to to come to my sandbox to see my revised article. I would also like to invite anyone who wants to help me to do so. How do I do this? please answer on my talk page. Phil Burnstein (talk) 23:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied on user talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Article flagged for unverified info

I expanded a stub into an article, "Orval Hobart Mowrer," and when I was a few paragraphs into it someone put in a nasty little note that there was a lot of undocumented material (which there was not, even at the time), threatened to wipe out what I had done, and placed a box about missing documentation at the top of the page. I feel this was unfair, and that at this point my efforts at documentation may even be excessive. How can I get rid of the box? I'm done with the article.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rose bartram (talkcontribs) 13:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the note at Talk:Orval Hobart Mowrer was a little terse, considering this was your first article. I see there are now plenty of references, so I have removed the "original research" box for you (you just delete the line {{Original research|date=July 2008}} from the beginning of the article). Keep up the good work ! Gandalf61 (talk) 13:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
As an update, the "citations needed" box has been re-added, and I've answered some questions and left some commentary on Talk:Orval Hobart Mowrer. Cheers. -—Pie4all88 T C 22:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Fire Team for Freedom

The Fire Team for Freedom, also known as the Mike and Jake Show, is an internet based radio show hosted by brothers Mike and Jake Nimetz. The show was started in November 2007 on Mike and Jake are both military veterans and the show is centered around the idea that military members have taken an oath to defend this countries borders and constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. The show was originally a way for the brothers to spread their views on the Presidential campaign of Republican Ron Paul. However, once the official campaign ended, the show continued. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeandjake (talkcontribs) 16:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions; you don't seem to be asking one. Please don't make an article on this show, though. They don't meet our web content notability guidelines. Paragon12321 17:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
There's also a conflict of interest, based on your user name. As a Ron Paul supporter, I admire what you guys are doing, but the notability guidelines that Paragon referred to are strict. -—Pie4all88 T C 21:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call COI over that particular username - more info is needed. If I create the username User:Fleetwoodmac because I'm only interested in editing Fleetwood Mac articles, that doesn't automatically make it a COI. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 22:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
True, true—I should've phrased it more neutrally, saying that I suspect a COI. From what I've seen here, oftentimes people who are closely affiliated with an organization use a username relating to it, but there is obviously no way for me to know. Fleetwood Mac is more well-known than the Mike and Jake Show, so I assume it would have more fans who are simply interested in editing its article. In any case, thanks for the comment, and I'll keep it in mind when making future edits. —Pie4all88 T C 01:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

My updates are disappering

I've been trying to make modifications to,_Ontario under the media section I added in a subsection called Web and entered details about media services everythime I do it, it is deleted the next day. Can someone please help me with this.

Thanks Craig Izdabye (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

You added [] - Brantford's foremost online magazinee. If there is something of interest happening in the city of Brantford, this is where you will find it. Find events, restaurants, attractions, bars and clubs, hotels, movies and much more. It was removed by User:NormanEinstein as a promotional link, and I agree, as do others on your talk page. The description reads like an advertisement and nothing tells us why it is "foremost". You need to discuss this on the article talk page and come to a consensus as to if and how this may be added. If you are associated with the magazine, please become familiar with Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


How Do I Find The Aurthor Of A Web Page —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. You can find information about who the original author of an article was by going to that article's history (see the "history" tab at the top of the page). Scroll down on the history page to see the earliest revision, or click "earliest" to see the earliest edits made to the article. JamieS93 23:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Correct, assuming the question is about articles on Wikipedia. If it's about websites in general, try the page's "about", "contact us" or similar links. – ukexpat (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
If it's about websites in general then you can also try WHOIS. If it's about a Wikipedia article and you want the information to cite the article then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
If it's about Wikipedia and you don't want to cite it, try Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia Olaf Davis | Talk 21:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Artists of Pakistan

One eminent senior artist of Pakistan is Ajmal Husain. He is still painting and exhibiting at the age of eighty. Ajmal Husain was the first Pakistani artist to exhibit his paintings after the birth of Pakistan in 1947. His first international one man shows were held in West Germany, Geneva and Madrid in 1952.Subsequently he his exhibitions were held at the Middle East House galleries in New York in 1954 followed by another show in the same year Middle East Institute in Washinton Dc. Washington DC.Ajmal Husain is a dedicated painter and has been responsible to promote visual art in Karachi, then the capital of Pakistan Pakistan. He has played important role in the etablishment of Pakistan Arts Council. From 1960 up to 1970 Ajmal Husain remained the president of the National Committee of the International Artists Association. A UNESCO sponsored NGO. During this period he attended many international artists' congress.He came to know many distinguished and reputed artists from all over the world at these grand artists' gatherings held every three years at Vienna, Tokyo, New York, Amsterdam and Paris.

Ajmal Husain lived and practiced art in Paris from 1970 to 1976 then in London from 1976 up to 1988. He regularly exhibited his work at all the leading salons in France and in Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timoorlane (talkcontribs) 11:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Timoorlane! This is a page for newcomers to ask questions. Ajmal Husain is listed as a "notable alumnus" in our article Scottish Church College, Calcutta, but we do not have an article on him yet. If you are interested in creating one, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. —Pie4all88 T C 22:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

New contribution deemed to be advertising

Hi there,

a few months ago I tried to write an article about Pam Golding Properties (the company) which was founded by Mrs. Pam Golding who is an South African Icon and one of the most successful South African business woman.

This was removed.

I don't understand why it was removed and deemed to be advertising when you have information about companies such as IBM and Microsoft AND each individual product that they sell. Could someone please explain to me what the difference is? Pam Golding Properties is a Real Estate company and a household name in Southern Africa.

With kind regards Sasch (talk) 07:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, you might want to check WP:ADVERT, and WP:SOAP. It might be also helpful to check WP:ORG (Although there are signs which indicate it's a notable entity)
Promoting for a company is not allowed on WP, and neutral language should be used.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 09:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
See also WP:YFA and WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 13:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I have also just reverted your recent edits to Swellendam and Grahamstown, Eastern Cape. The links to that you added are, in my view, inappropriate. – ukexpat (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

requesting someone else create content

Ahoy, I am curious how I request an article be created by anybody willing? When I followed the request link all I saw that was relevant to my query was the 'create content' heading and 'new article'.. obviously I didnt intend to request it in html. So I think I took a wrong turn. I would like to request that someone write an article about IRA GREEN Incorporated. I have a couple random military issued earplugs and cantenes and whatnot lying around and wondered about the history and relevance of the company or companies that made that stuff. Any help or a finger pointing me in the right direction would be wonderful. (Ryan) (talk) 12:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I think you're looking for Wikipedia:Requested articles. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi Ryan!
If you have some material to start with, coupled with sources, it might be better if you place the request at WP:AFC. Please note that WP:AFC is there to help anonymous contributors like you create the article (i.e. not request it).
Also please note that if it is not notable enough, the article might be deleted.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 12:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Add Infobox to Valiant Charger

I have been working on the Valiant Charger article, and have decided it needs a infobox. I want to apply the Dodge Charger (B-body): infobox. However, no matter what I do, I can not get it to work. The picture already at the top of the page is what I want to use as the infobox pic. If anybody can help me, it would be greatly appreciated! (talk) 16:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Oddly enough, because I was able to place the info box there without any problem. However, I would like you to verify the info I included there, I am not really sure about them and correct if need to.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 19:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Why were you able to post it, when I posted the exact same thing, and just got wording in the article? (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Your edit [7] was missing ]] at the end of the image argument. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

contributing an article


I am rather confused as to contribute an article. Do I have to create a stub first? I apparently created what i thought would be my article on my account page but I owuld like it to be available o the public.

How do i go about this?


The Barnard Center for Research on Women (talk) 19:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I just took a look at the draft on your user page and in my opinion it is very promotional of the organisation and would probably be speedily deleted per criterion G11 of the speedily deletion criteria (see WP:CSD) if created in the mainspace. Because of your conflict of interest you should probably wait for someone else to write an article about the organisation. Take a look at WP:CORP, WP:SPAM, WP:RS and WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 20:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I see it is now in the mainspace - The Barnard Center for Research on Women - and has been nominated for speedily deletion per A7 of the criteria. – ukexpat (talk) 20:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

sandbox users guide

is there a good sandbox user guide anywhere? CheersIraallisonhearts2074554696 (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what you need. There's Wikipedia:About the Sandbox and Wikipedia:Subpage. Maybe you need Wikipedia:Subpages#How to create user subpages for information on making your own subpage. You can also see my sandbox and the Wikipedia Sandbox. Scottydude review 21:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

How to cite Wikipedia in a different language?

There is a template; I have seen this done, but couldn't find them when needed.Sillyvalley (talk) 01:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles don't satisfy Wikipedia:Reliable sources and shouldn't be cited as sources to claims. If you mean an article was partially or completely translated then see Category:Wikipedia translation templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Citing a foreign Wikipedia article as a references in an article here shouldn't generally be done as all Wikipedias are tertiary sources, and unstable ones. However, when foreign language Wikipedia articles are translated, you can and should attribute the article you drew from – see the note at Threshing-board#References as one example of how this can be done; preformatted citations for any Wikipedia article (generally for use outside of Wikipedia) are provided by clicking on the toolbox link on the left hand side of the page below the search box, called (here) "Cite this page"— I believe all Wikipedias have an equivalent special cite page; or could you be referring to the links which show the language citation appears in, such as {{Ce icon}} which produces (Chechen)? If so, see Category:Language icons. If nothing I've said is useful, and no one else provides the answer you're looking for, can you clarify your question?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if this is what you mean either, but if you're citing a page translated from another language Wikipedia, you use Template:Translation/Ref. -- Natalya 11:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
You guys are great. They'd work. I guess "citing" was a misnommer here. Sillyvalley (talk) 05:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Need help in adding references to an article I am editing

Editors: I have added some content to an Wiki entry I read, and I cannot determine how to add the references (which I have several) I have read the tuitorials and I cannot find the actual place where I need to add the cites. Most are books. Also, is there a spell check? Campchair (talk) 19:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Was Template:Cite book among your reading - that should explain how to use that template. Basically at the point in the article where you want the ref to appear, you copy the template text and then edit it for the book in question. To create the list of refs at the end of the article, create a references section ( == References == ) and add the {{Reflist}} template. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 19:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
(*Edit conflict)
Hello! Welcome to Wikipedia!
To cite a source, please refer to WP:CITET, there you will find all kinds of templates to use, or like most editors, you can add the refToolbar which helps quite a lot and saves you time and effort from having to copy and paste the CITE templates every time you need them. You can add it by going to "Gadgets" (from here ) and ticking the box next to "refTools", and then saving. This will add a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates.
I am not aware of a spell checker designed for WP(I use Firefox, which does that for me). :)
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 19:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Seconding Aua's recommendation that you enable refTools, which allows you to cite books, journals, websites and other sources without being very familiar with the complexities of Wikicode. Just remember a couple of things: (1) you don't need to complete every field of the refTools citation form so long as the important things like name, author, URL etc are there; (2) you must reposition your cursor at the point in the text where you want the citation to appear JUST BEFORE you click on "insert citation", otherwise it will default to the beginning of the article; (3) give each of your references a name, because they can then be easily used several times in the same article by just citing the refname, rather than inputting all the details each time. Karenjc 19:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Requesting new article

I'm a new user and still finding my way around. I requested a new article, which has been added to the relevant list. However, it is in black type, while others are in red type and can be clicked on. Could someone let me know why? Cocteaufan (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The issue was, it looked like you removed your wikilink, [[like this]], be removing the double-brackets [[]] around the article title (Pam Cook). That's what makes a link, and if text is not red linked (see this) it's black as you were saying, and can't be clicked on. I've fixed the formatting on the article request page. I hope that helps, JamieS93 11:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jamie for the speedy response -- I've learned something. Cocteaufan (talk) 11:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem, you can let me know if you need any more help, or leave a message here again. :-) Good luck, JamieS93 11:52, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Transferring a new article in Word format

I'm a new registered user and have writen an article on the Technical Service Council, a subject not now listed.

It's a Word document. How can I transfer it to Wikipedia? It has references, links and, I hope, is in your format.Canso (talk) 21:41, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not permit Word documents. See Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format, Help:WordToWiki, and Wikipedia:Your first article. An article should be created at Technical Service Council. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Banned over edit conflict

How do I complain about an administrator who banned me over an edit conflict. I subsequently asked him to explain himself on my talk page. I feel I was very polite, but then I was banned from my own talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You were blocked because of vandalism, not because of an edit conflict.
Regarding your question, you might find this helpful.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 12:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if anyone is really looking, but the "vandalism" in question is someone adding current events about Georgia (the country) to the article about Georgia (the U.S. state). I don't think it's vandalism, just a bad understanding of geography! Furthermore, since the edits were made from an anon IP address, it is not certain the person who posted here is the person who made the edits. I recommend this address be unblocked, and also recommend the poster get an account so his edits won't get confused with others using the same address. Also take note that the events in Georgia (the country) are well covered in existing articles at Wikipedia, such as 2008 South Ossetia war. (strike-out as requested below) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 20:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, someone is really looking! That user is fully aware of what he/she is doing and that, sir, is vandalism.
[8][9] [10][11] are just obvious examples of vandalism and racism! I would kindly ask you to strike out your recommendation to unblock this user.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 20:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict - a real one!) It wasn't a ban but a block, and it has expired. Otherwise the IP couldn't have posted here. The IP kept revert warring to add totally irrelevant content to the US state after being told the difference between the US state and the country. A block was apparently the only way to stop it. In [12] the IP claims the Russians really were in the US state. The unblock requests (and this post) said nothing about editing the wrong page by mistake. The first request said nothing at all and the second just made the false claim "I was blocked because of an edit conflict." PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry folks, I was fooled on this one. I looked at the user's talk page, and all 4 warnings for August were about the same edit which I mentioned in the struck-out post above. There were no pointers to the other articles and talk page edits being mentioned now, so I just confined my observations to what was complained about. The declines on unblock requests, as they appear on the user's talk page, gave no further examples either. I'm usually pretty good at spotting wiseguys a long way off, but not this time. I will humbly accept the appropriate punishment. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding new wikipedia page

I would like to know whether I can add a new Wikipedia page that lists the following details.

  1. Olympic sports and players from our country, India
  2. Where these players stand with respect to current Olympic records
  3. Coach, other contact and miscellaneous details

Please help me in this regard. many thanks. --V4vijayakumar (talk) 05:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

We already have India at the Olympics and India at the 2008 Summer Olympics (along with similar articles for every other olympics India has ever taken part in). If you have sourced material not in those articles, then please add it, but I don't think we need any new pages at present. Algebraist 06:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree that more lists are probably not necessary but if individual Indian sportsmen and women meet the notability requirements, why should they not have articles?  – ukexpat (talk) 16:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Sure, but that doesn't seem to be what the OP was suggesting; he/she referred to a single new page about Indian participation in the Olympics, and we already have many. Algebraist 16:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Trying to get Science Fiction Illustrator, Gary LaSasso, Added to Wikipedia...

I Just wanted to See what's Required in Accomplishment to be Enterred into Wikipedia.

I'm asking on behalf of Myslf. In The late 70's & Early 80's As a Science Fiction Illustrator, I did many Mass Market PaperBack BookCovers for Bantam Bks. Pocket Bks, (Simon & Shuster), Double Day, St. Martin's Press, etc...

For instance: I Did The Nebula Awards Winner's Series #'s 13 thru 18.. for Bantam from 78 to 84,, Several Stainless Steel Rat's,, the Windover Tapes.. And Many More...

Please Google Gary LaSasso... Thanks For Your Consideration;

My Primary Purpous for this Request, Is that I am getting Ready to Introduce a Whole New Series of Paintings Including Space, (habitats), Colonies,, Mining of The Asteroid Belt, a Series Called "Smealt & Dealt" ... The New Long Ilsland Expressway, .7 mi. off shore, running from Tip of Manhattan and out to Fire Island, or the Robert moses Cause way... The New Trinity Bldg, (a bldg., ( {Mini City}Over Trinity Church in Lower Manhatan )....

Anyway,. I've been Bldg Custom Cars, Themed Environments, (for MUVICO, Rooms To Go, etc), And Am Now Returning This Winter to My Science Fiction & Speculation/s...

Thanks Again; Gary LaSasso Gary LaSasso (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)--Gary LaSasso (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:COI will presents us with a problem here, since it will be an article about you, by you (sorry!)
As for the criteria for inclusion, please check WP:PEOPLE
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 14:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


Can someone tell me how to insert a TEMPLATE like the one used on the page of actor Jesse Bradford Grahamvic (talk) 02:49, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

If you are talking about the box with his picture add the code

{{Infobox Actor
 | name                  = 
 | image                 = 
 | caption               = 
 | birthname             = 
 | birthdate             = 
 | birthplace            = 
 | deathdate             = 
 | deathplace            = 
 | othername             = 
 | occupation            = 
 | yearsactive           = 
 | spouse                = 
 | domesticpartner       = 
 | website               = 

and then fill out the areas with applicable information. - Icewedge (talk) 02:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Click the "edit this page" tab at top of Jesse Bradford to see what the article does. See the template documentation at Template:Infobox Actor. Start by clicking "edit this page" on the article you want to use it on. Come back if you have more questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

want to help

im new to wikipedia and i am absolutely horrible at writing i want to know if there is any thing else i can do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benlights (talkcontribs) 18:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Benlights, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia. There are loads of ways you can contribute here: article writing is certainly an important part of building this encyclopaedia, but you can also copyedit articles, correct errors and expand on information; help categorise articles; find and upload images; fight vandalism; contribute to discussions about improving the way Wikipedia looks and works; welcome other users; help find sources and add references to existing articles, etc etc. I will leave some useful links on your talk page - use them to find your way round and learn how the place works, and don't hesitate to ask for help if you need it. I hope you enjoy it here! Karenjc 18:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
There are many ways of contributing to Wikipedia, for example cleaning up vandalism or something else at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
If you're feeling particularly ambitious, there are several listings at Category:Wikipedia backlog that you could attempt to pare down. I would recommend that before you undertake a task, that you do a little bit of research into how to do it properly - for example, if you want to tackled Category:All articles lacking sources, take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Citing sources and probably Wikipedia:Deletion process for those articles that aren't recoverable. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
There are lots of other fun jobs that don't require much writing ability. For example, you can create Navigational templates. To do that, just find a category about a subject you find interesting, for which no navigational template currently exists. Then you can leave a message on my talk page and I'll tell you what to do next. See some templates I started: {{Peak oil}}, {{Bioenergy}}, {{Wind power}}, etc. Another job is to add shortcuts to the Wikipedia:FAQ (so we can link to individual FAQs, such as WP:BFAQ#CORPWIKI). Some users already started, but we did not finish. See User talk:Manors#Task suggestion and User talk:Manors#FAQ shortcuts if you're interested in completing that task. After we put shortcuts in the FAQ, we need to put them in the Manual of style too. (We already added shortcuts to the Editor's index.) There is no limit to the number of non-writing tasks that can improve the efficiency of Wikipedia's internal documents and tools. --Teratornis (talk) 04:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Bettie Page edit removed

why was my edit about her explicit modeling deleted? I edited the sentence on 8/16/08 and cited my source to correct some incorrect informaton that was posted. what did I do wrong? Potaf (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the revision history for the article, it was User:Jca2112 who reverted you, so you can always ask them. You say that you cited your source, but I can't see any citation with the edit you made. You need to reference a reliable source so that others can verify the information. Ebay doesn't count as a reliable source though. As it's obviously quite a controversial change, I suggest you post it at Talk:Bettie Page first so that other editors working on that article can give their opinion.--BelovedFreak 08:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
And note that she is apparently still alive so Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons applies. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I edited a page on the above subject with correct information. It was taken down. I think I will give up on this since many people are in denial and willy nilly take down corrected information that they don't like. How best to back up your statement than by sending people directly to the photos in question. I find this site difficult to navigate and cannot find how to contact the person who took it down or the person who explained why it was taken down, as suggested to me. I was contributing truthful, objective, correct information to an article which specifically stated that the opposite was true according to your own definition of "sexually explicit material." Can someone explain this to me? Potaf (talk) 00:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

See my reply at Wikipedia:Help desk#Bettie Page but please make follow up posts here in this section. You need a reliable source to actually say what you claim. There are many false sex images of celebrities and an eBay listing is not a reliable source. Note Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons has especially strict requirements for sources to contentious material. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

New biography article

I want to submit a biography article of Inta Ezergailis a professsor of literature at Cornell University. How and where do I find a submisssions page?

<email removed to prevent spam> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babik21 (talkcontribs) 16:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 16:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Can we embed youtube video in the Biography of a Living Person?

Can we embed a youtube video in the biography of a living person if that video is of that person, and/or involves someone speaking about that person? If so, how does one edit the html? Kilaya (talk) 03:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I apologize, but unfortunately, you cannot embed a Youtube video at this time mainly because certain HTML is not supported and probably for copyright reasons. BoL (Talk) 03:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) To be best of my knowledge, there's no way to do that currently. Videos on Youtube may be acceptable as links and/or sources (but frequently are not, due to a combination of copyright and reliability concerns) -- see Wikipedia:External links for more information, and Wikipedia:External links#Linking to YouTube, Google Video, and similar sites in particular. – Luna Santin (talk) 03:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
If you decide a YouTube link is appropriate, you can link to it compactly with the {{YouTube}} template. --Teratornis (talk) 03:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

considering an article about Arno straps

I am considering submitting an article about Arno straps. My question is that I think this verges on advertising, but it seems to me that Arno straps are widely considered around the world by knowledgeable people to be the best straps for back packing, camping, etc. and are economical too. Would such an article be considered appropriate? N5jjr (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

From Coghlan's?[13] As an avid camper, I have never heard them referred to as Arno straps. I'm not particularly fond of that style, but they are widely used. I don't see an article on one particular brand as notable. You could expand strap to include general use for camping, and you could add something to the equipment section in camping. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Agreed; a Google search turns up 700 or so links using "Arno straps" which indicates that it's not really that widely used. Including something into the above articles might be reasonable, but try to avoid it sounding like marketing material. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Google can tell you how widely used a camping accountrement is? Are you sure? Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 06:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
"known." not "used." wrong word on my part. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the responses. They'll guide my work when I get to doing the input. Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

New Article

I would like to post a description of "Christian Objectivism." Christian Objectivism is currently acknowledged by the Social Science Research Network, but this article would contain a fair amount of original work. Is it possible that a scholarly description of this theology could be published here? Eric13777 (talk) 10:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Read our policy on Wikipedia:Original research. Unfortunately, we can't include information which hasn't already been included in a Wikipedia:Reliable source. If you think you can make an article based on sources, though, please go ahead and make it! Tombomp (talk/contribs) 10:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Whny do you keep deleting the page i am creating?

I am trying to create a page detailing the artist MC Envy. I understand why you deleted it first becuase it was in away advertising the artist but i started to re-write it and you deleted it again, and in no way was i advertising the artist! I was just stating what he has done and achieved. If i start writing it again are you going to delete it again?

MC Envy (talk) 12:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It was deleted twice in 2 days, first for being ad-like, and the second because it didn't indicate the importance of the subject. Now, what I would recommend you to do is write the article first in your user space, somewhere like User:MC Envy/MC Envy then more experienced editors will check whether it's notable enough and whether it's likely to be kept. Now, before putting that much effort into the article, please ensure that it will satisfy our notability criteria and it will not sound like an ad.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 13:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
But note, if you are MC Envy, you have a huge conflict of interest and should not be writing an article about yourself. If you are notable, others will write the article in due course. – ukexpat (talk) 18:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

who authored/created an article

How do I discover who authored or created an article - its original creation. Specifically article for Roy Stanley Benson (RADM, USN)? Ricconnole (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

The article Roy S. Benson was originally created by Marcd30319, who is also responsible for most edits to the article since. You can find this sort of thing out by clicking the 'history' tab at the top of a page. Algebraist 16:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
You may also be interested in reading Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding stuff to user page

How do I add gadgets to my user page? CocteauFan (talk) 17:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You will find Wikipedia:User_Page_Design_Center very helpful !
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

ruesting a article

I am 100% lost on how to request a article. I guess it just does not make sense to me, and I cant figure out or find the topic that my request fits under. I am requesting a article on Mike "Rooftop" Escamilla profesional bmx rider. Someone please help. I am new at this. Thanks.

MarieMarieeeme (talk) 18:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

That same question was answered here.
Basically, you place it in one of the categories under Wikipedia:Requested_articles#Topic_areas_in_sports.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing a list

How do I add something to a list in Wikipedia? (talk) 18:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You click "edit this page" at the top of the page. However, since you are an IP editor (not registered), there are certain pages which are semi-protected and you will not be able to edit them. Could you please be more specific on what you want to add to which page.
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
But first, make sure it is really a list and not a Wikipedia category (See WP:CAT and Help:Category). If it is a category you cannot add to it by editing the category page, you must add the relevant category to the article. Please be careful, messing up a category if you don't know what you are doing can screw up many pages and related categories. – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
From your contributions I guess you want to add Arcturis to Category:Architecture firms of the United States. That is a category and not a list. You can only add already existing articles to a category and there is no article about Arcturis (before considering to create one, see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business if you are associated with it). PrimeHunter (talk) 19:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

a numerical on magnetism


  magnetic moment=1.6A-m^2.
  neutral point=20 cm.

How should I calculate the earth's horizontal component?RitiSaha (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Check WP:RD, they will answer your question.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:Reference_desk/Science or WP:Reference_desk/Mathematics.
Nevertheless, this is what they state on their page:

The reference desk will not give you answers for your homework, although we will try to help you out if there is a specific part of your homework you do not understand. Make an effort to show that you have tried solving it first.

Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

problems with my posting on wikipedia

I am having a difficult time posting on wikipedia. I am trying to post the definition and the organization called manzes incorporatied. I posted the page and it was there for a day but now it is no where to be found. i wanted to know if i did anything wrong with the posting, or am i missing something from the posting that would lead to its deletion. please respond, thank you. Manzesinc (talk) 04:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Manzesinc, I would like you to read our COI, SPAM, Notability, and Verifyability articles, because maybe the article was deleted because it may have violated one of the policies. BoL (Talk) 04:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Your article was deleted under Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#A7 see below.

Symbol move vote.svg Please see Why was my page deleted? The most common reasons are:

To find the specific reason a particular page was deleted:

  1. Go to the Deletion Log
  2. Type the page title in the case-sensitive search field
  3. The date, time and reason for deletion will be displayed -Optigan13 (talk) 04:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


Can I write an article about a software I developed and released under an open source license?

Dylan Borg (talk) 20:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

If the software is notable per WP:N and notability can be verified by reliable sources then it would meet the policies for a WP article. However, as the developer of the software you have a huge conflict of interest and should therefore probably not create the article yourself. If the software is notable, someone else will create the article sooner or later.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
If this is about Dylan's XAML Word mentioned on your user page then a Google search makes it unlikely to satisfy notability requirements. It may be welcome on other sites. On List of wikis I saw SWiK but it doesn't appear to be working currently. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
SWiK seems to be working now. - ukexpat (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

submission of my wife's name and credentials to Jewish American sportspeople.

–Will copies of newspaper articles, professional acknowlegements and awards satisfy as references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oomgolla (talkcontribs) 09:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Newspaper articles typically qualify as reliable sources. Professional acknowledgements and awards establish notability and should generally be mentioned in the article, often for that purpose. I can't give an absolute answer, of course, without actually reading the articles and knowing what the awards were, although I can tell you that it is highly advisable not to write about your own family. If your wife is truly notable, someone will likely write an article on her soon enough. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding to Jewish American Sportspeople

––I would like to add my wife's name to this page. Will copies of newspaper articles and citations fromn the Bowling association serve a09:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Oomgolla (talk)ooms references?Oomgolla (talk) 09:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, references to newspaper articles are good sources to use. You don't have to provide a copy of the article, but cite the article (see Wikipedia:Citing sources). I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "professional acknowledgements and awards". If there is coverage of somebody receiving awards in independent reliable sources, then those sources can also be used. I'm not sure if you are talking about an article that already exists or you are going to create one. Bear in mind that all articles need to meet standards of notability and verifiability. For sports people, see Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Athletes. After all, it's an encyclopaedia, not just a directory of successful people. One final thing to bear in mind, it is very strongly discouraged to create an article about a subject you are personally involved in in real life. This is considered a conflict of interest. If an article already exists on your wife, then it is ok for you to edit it, although it would be a good idea to say who you are on the article talkpage. Otherwise, you should probably try requesting somebody to create the article, to avoid any conflict of interest. --BelovedFreak 09:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok, you've changed your question slightly. Is there already an article on your wife? If so, go for it. If there's no article, she might not be considered notable enough to be included, although it's possible to add people to lists if there is expectation that there will soon be an article about them. But read the rest of what I said above!--BelovedFreak 09:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

editing headers

The header to the Dickey Lee bio gives a birth date of September 21, 1936. The bio on the website gives September 21, 1941. Which is right? If the latter, how does one make the edit?Fred927 (talk) 01:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure which is correct. However, to fix the date in the article, click on "edit this page" at the top of the article. That will allow you to change the birth date. Just make sure it's correct first! Cheers. TNX-Man 01:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I do believe it's 1936, based on a google search, and an AOL music bio.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 06:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

lost my sandbox

help ! I lost my sandbox ! I think i did a Wiki search while in the tutorial sandbox and now can't find my way back to my sandboxBill Ladd (talk) 18:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

You haven't created a personal sandbox, and have never edited any sandbox. The tutorial is here and the main Wikipedia sandbox is here, if it's either of them that you're after. Algebraist 18:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I created a user sub-page sandbox for you at User:Bill Ladd/sandbox. – ukexpat (talk) 19:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Your latest edit before posting here was to User:Bill Ladd. The tutorial sandbox is at Wikipedia:Tutorial (Editing)/sandbox. Your account has not edited it but if you think you saved something there then you can click the "history" tab to see edits by IP addresses from users not logged in at the time. If the problem is you had unsaved content in an edit box in a window you moved away from then try going back in your browser until you reach the same page which may or may not remember your content. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Linking to a Wikipedia article in a different language

How can I create a link in an English-language Wikipedia article to a Spanish-language Wikipedia article? (talk) 20:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

See Help:Interlanguage links. Essentially, you add the code [[es:Name of Spanish article here]] to the article (preferably at the end, to keep things tidy) and it adds a link in the left sidebar. Algebraist 20:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
If you want it to be an embedded hyperlink, you would put a colon in front, like [[:es:Name of Spanish article here]]. bibliomaniac15 22:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

moving page

When moving a page due to an capitalizing error in the title, is it possible to rid of the original page that says redirected, this way only the correct titled page exists?. Infocentral2000 (talk) 03:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

This is the third place you've posted this. I have replied at WP:VPT. Algebraist 03:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ref Contribution not posting.

Hello. Last week I added a Music reference to the "Doomsday Clock", but it did not show up on the list. Did I miss a step?...Mickey Way (talk) 05:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

All information on Wikipedia should have already been published somewhere else. Your edit was reverted because the information wasn't attributed to a reliable source. WODUP 05:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Bradford and Airedale teaching Primary Care Trust


Where has my page gone. Just created an article entitled as above and now doesn't seem to appear on any search, nor can I find it again unless I keep hitting back button.

Realise that this is probably because I'm a simpleton but can you help B&AtPCT (talk) 14:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Your article is listed at Bradford and Airedale Teaching Primary Care Trust. However, it does appear to be advertising for a company. I suggest looking at your first article for some tips. Cheers! TNX-Man 14:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
(ec)It works for me at Bradford and Airedale Teaching Primary Care Trust. You probably spelled it wrong. You should note that, in order to qualify for an article, an organisation needs to be notable as defined in WP:ORG. Also, as you are probably from the company, there is a conflict of interest (see WP:COI). Most importantly, that article is advertising and is not allowed on Wikipedia per WP:SPAM. Sorry! Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Aha - it's not advertising - its a public sector organisation and part of the national health service. How do I change it? B&AtPCT (talk) 14:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

It was deleted as blatant advertising per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11 which is not limited to commercial companies. It was written like a promotional text from the organization and was not an encyclopedic article. Writing it in the first person is also wrong and made a conflict of interest obvious. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Paul Hyland

Paul Hyland was born in Lancashire in Northern England (UK) in 1967. After an unremarkable schooling and apprenticeships in varies trades. He as gone on to be an international traveller, adventurer and expedition guide. He is well known for his overland, ecological & eco friendly trips in Asia, Africa and the Indian sub-continent. He is also well regard for his knowledge in overland vehicle preparation and personal self reliance in foreign hostile locations.

He presently lives with his wife in Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phtest (talkcontribs) 02:20, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Can I post external links to a blogspot site which has biblographic references

I am filling articles about Olympic history on a blogspot page, and would like to add external links to those relevant Wikipedia entries. My articles are researched using text, visual and web resources and I cite my sources; are these acceptable links in this context? Thanks very muchEusebius65 (talk) 15:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, you are looking to cite Wikipedia as a source on your blogspot page? If that's so, see WP:Citing Wikipedia for more information. Cheers! TNX-Man 15:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I think the question is whether or not external links to the blogspot page would be acceptable in related Wiki articles. In that case, poster, you'll want to read the external links guidelines and determine if your links will be beneficial under those guidelines. I'd suspect that there would be resistance to including links to a blog, but I could be wrong. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Note that Wikipedia:External links#Advertising and conflicts of interest says: "You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

my edit does not seem to appear


I recently edited a page to correct a bit of incorrect information (edits were made yesterday, August 22, 2008). However, I was surprised to see that my edit did not appear in wikipedia today.

The page I edited was on Halle Berry, the actress. I noted that she was cited as suffering from Type 1 diabetes, but in fact she suffers from Type 2 diabetes. The inaccurate information is likely attributable to the fact that in an early interview, Ms. Berry incorrectly stated that she had Type 1 diabetes, but at that point she misunderstood her condition. Other statements made by Ms. Berry make it clear that she in fact does suffer from Type 2 diabetes, and has never had Type 1.

I am a biomedical researcher with a doctorate in endocrine physiology, specifically studying type 1 diabetes. I am wondering if there is a delay in new edits being shown, if I made a mistake, or what the reason why my edit was not included.

Thank you. (talk) 18:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Your edit was reverted by user:Gimmetrow. The reason given is "maybe, but far too much commentary without a source". Please try to cite a source for this information to avoid it being removed next time.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 18:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

In other words it got deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodguy007 (talkcontribs) 21:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

In Wikipedia, "deleted edit" often refers to an edit which is no longer visible to non-administrators. These edits are visible to everybody in the page history [14][15], so "reverted edit" is more accurate. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Conversion of measurements in Wiki

Is there any Wiki dealy-bob that can be used to convert measurements so one may show both metric and U.S. customery units side by side. So, for example, if one states that "2.35 meters is the new record", one could use a Wiki conversion thingy to add how many "feet or inches" 2.35 meters is. Eh? Thanks. Ayapota (talk) 00:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

There is {{Convert}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Erroneous link

The Clarence Darrow entry contains an incorrect link. There is a reference to the Leopold and Loeb-based novel Compulsion; linked to this title is a different, more recent novel that is also called Compulsion. How would I correct this link? RCane1 (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, as far as I am aware, there is no article about Leopold and Loeb novel Compulsion, thus for now, if the link is erroneous, just de-link it.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 23:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
You can also change it to a redlink. The disambiguation page Compulsion already has a redlink in the entry "Compulsion (book), a 1956 novel, by American author Meyer Levin, about the Leopold and Loeb case." So in this case it would be natural to change it to Compulsion (book). If an article is later created there then all links in Special:WhatLinksHere/Compulsion (book) will lead to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I have changed it to Compulsion (book).[16] PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

How often does a page get looked at; and is there a page to explain editors' perogatives?

Can a person find out how often a page gets looked at in Wiki? Also, why do some editors place [citation needed] on many things, even things that are common sense, common knowledge, or widely accepted within certain knowledge communities. Within days or weeks, after posting [citation needed] some editors slash and burn parts of an article because it is "unverified". What? Editing and research, including the proper use of dictionaries and encyclopedias, are taught in universities. For specialized subjects, both writers and editors need a base of knowledge of the subject. I've been surprised to see on Wiki an entire article almost wiped out because a particular editor apparently didn't agree with what it had to say, not because the information was wrong. In the editing community, editors will suggest corrections; it's not all about just asking for citations; editors should also help improve; it's not all about criticism either. It's useless to work on certain articles, because all the work gets wiped out by an impatient slash and burn editor. I'm not into edit wars. I expect at least a modicum of decency and respect. One editor has completely blanked his/her own description page, not even leaving any history of it. What goes on with that? I've only experienced contentious editors a few times; the majority of editors are polite and cordial. — Ayapota (talk) 02:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

For a list of the most visited articles, see WP:Most_visited_articles. For Wikipedia article traffic statistics, see this.
{{fact}} tags are essential since what might be considered commonsense to you, might not be to someone else. There are many other reasons as well, please refer to Burden of evidence.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 13:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

can i initiate a new subject?

Hi, can i begin a new topic? Dalerennie (talk) 04:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but beware that many articles by new users are deleted.
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Who Made Wikipedia

Hi Im Doing A Internet Bibliography In I Need To Know What The Name Of The Person Who Made This —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sixflags101 (talkcontribs) 03:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

See my reply at Wikipedia:Help desk#The Author Of Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:15, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Willy on Wheels, wasn't it? ;) --Alinnisawest(talk) 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not there is an article about Wikipedia on Wikipedia.  ;) Bvlax2005 (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiconfused about image upload & copyright stuff

So I am new to Wikipedia and am creating a page for my company. I have been trying to upload pictures to put on my page and am having a very hard time with it. Mostly the whole copyright thing; seems no matter what I do, the picture gets flagged and deleted. I have a web screenshot, a picture of a print advertisement (we're a marketing and public relations agency), a picture of a direct mail campaign, an exterior shot of our building, a logo, and an interior shot of our building. I would love it if someone could walk me through this or tell me which tags or phrases to use. All of these things were made by my company for our clients, except for our web screenshot and the building pictures (we made them but they're not for our clients). Please help!Summer K. Sellers (talk) 17:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not the best person to talk about image work - the free-vs. non-free thing makes my brain cry - but I do see a problem of conflict of interest here. Creating a page on your own company is very much frowned upon; while it's on your user page right now, it's quite likely that it would be considered promotional. It's always better to leave an article until someone not affiliated with the company creates it, to avoid the perception of advertising. I'm not sure that the company is notable enough to meet our guidelines, either; looking at the references currently in place, I'm not sure whether it's got enough there to indicate that it meets the corporate guidelines. Also, using the name of the company as your username isn't a great idea; I'd recommend going to this page and requesting a user name change as soon as possible. (I'll let someone else explain the image aspect.) Tony Fox (arf!) 17:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. Note that User:TaigMarksInc is not an article. It is a user page, and non-free images are not allowed on user pages (see Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#9). It may be better to ask about image copyright issues at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
A number of the items you listed (logos, print advertisements, screenshots) would already be copyrighted and are owned by your company. The two best ways to work around this are: 1) Upload content that is owned by you (such as photographs taken by yourself) and license under either Creative Common or GNU Free License. 2) In some cases copyrighted work can be used on Wikipedia but only if it follows a strict guideline outlined here. When you do upload your content you will need to select "Fair Use Rationale" and fill out the appropriate information. Bvlax2005 (talk) 15:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

new listing

Hi How do I go about contributing a new subject/word? The subject is AirdrieLIFE, a magazine based in Airdrie Alberta Canada. The name is trademarked. I am the publisher. (talk) 21:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's generally not a good idea to write about a company you own or a magazine you publish. If the subject is notable, someone will write an article about it eventually. Or, if you think the magazine is notable, you can request that someone write the article for at requested articles. Finally, if you think you can remain neutral, you can register an account in order to create the article yourself. Aside from being able to create articles, there are a lot of other benefits. Cheers! TNX-Man 21:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


I made a small addition to the page above, but decided to add another word to my insertion. I again signed this change, but I see now that my UserName etc appears in red with he message "Talk". I am not sure what I did wrong or what I should do --Alexander Burnett (talk) 04:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)?Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Alexander Burnett (talk) 04:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Alexander, and welcome to Wikipedia. Actually, as I think you've guessed now, one shouldn't sign contributions within articles. That "~~~~" is a shortcut that automatically puts your username, date etc. in. Also, you don't have to sign in the edit summary box - it's clear from the article history who's done what. However, one is expected to sign contributions to discussion/talk pages.-- (talk) 07:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

re-inserting deleted article

How do i re-insert an article which has been deleted previously citing A7 violation. I want to mention the notability of the person in the article. How do i go about it? Stellaelias (talk) 10:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You would have to return to the article page and recreate the article from scratch. Keep in mind that guidelines are available at WP:Notability (people) to explain what constitutes a notable person. Bvlax2005 (talk) 10:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion criterion A7 is "An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant." If you put a lot of work into the original article you could ask the deleting admin if he/she is willing to move the deleted article into your own user space. You can then work on it in your own space until it is ready for the main encyclopedia. However, you may need to convince the admin that you are able to address the notability issue before they will do that. The talk page of the admin who deleted your article is User talk:NawlinWiki. Good luck. SpinningSpark 12:06, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Uploading an Image

I would like to upload an image to Aggregate Level Simulation Protocol but have not been auto confirmed. No copyright issues are at issue. How can I accelerate this process OR ask someone else to upload the image? --Bernadette Clemente (talk) 11:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You should be autoconfirmed now, I think - this was your tenth edit, and your account has existed for more than four days (the requirements). So, give it a try? -- Natalya 12:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Unable to edit a semi-protected page as a registered user

I just registered my account on wikipedia and confirmed it via e-mail, but I am still unable to edit a semi-protected page. Is there something else I need to do? WisdomOfTruth (talk) 14:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Your account needs to be autoconfirmed - in other words, you must be active for four days and make at least ten edits. Once you hit those thresholds, you can edit semi-protected pages. Cheers! TNX-Man 14:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
See the link on the post above for more information. :-) Stwalkerstertalk ] 14:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Until you become autoconfirnmed, you can make suggestions on the talk page and optionally draw attention to that with {{Editsemiprotected}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Glenn Frey page edit

I have added myself to the Glenn Frey page. I co-wrote eleven of the 12 hits he had during his solo career. I think it is valid that I be mentioned on his page. But perhaps it is not. I added myself before but the few lines I added are no longer there. I don't want to shamelessly self promote, but I think my contribution is valid in this case. Please advise. Oh also, how do I provide "references" that my claims are true. It is a matter of record. thank you so much for your time! Flatpickjoe (talk) 09:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason your change might have been undone was that many users are wary when unreferenced facts are added to articles, especially ones that might be construed as false or self-promoting. The easiest way I've found to cite a reference is:

John Doe co-wrote these 12 songs<ref></ref>

The software will automatically add a footnote which will links to the list of references at the bottom of the page. As far as finding a source that claims you as a co-writer I'm not exactly sure where to look. There should be some sort of music database out there that would list you as a co-writer. One try might be to put both the artist's name and your name in a Google search and see what comes of it. Bvlax2005 (talk) 10:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I did as you suggested. Hope I did it right. THANKS again for your time! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flatpickjoe (talkcontribs) 10:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Perfect! And I did want to toss you an official welcome to Wikipedia  :) Bvlax2005 (talk) 10:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Nirmit Mukesh Mukane

Nirmit born on 15th July 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukeshmukane (talkcontribs) 10:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know this page is for asking questions regarding the use of Wikipedia. Did you have a question? Bvlax2005 (talk) 10:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Green Font

hello, can someone tell me what the number in green font mean?, i usually see them on the contribution page...thank youSwindler305 (talk) 00:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The number in green text the amount of data that was added in that revision. If the number is in red, then it means that data was removed. Bvlax2005 (talk) 01:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The larger the number, of course, the more text that was added or removed. Cheers, ( arky ) 01:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
See more at Wikipedia:Added or removed characters. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


Specs for Honda 200 s 3 wheeler. appreciate any input thanks!Jules Carl (talk) 03:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia help desk for for asking questions about using Wikipedia. I would recommend either checking the Wikipedia article, manufacturers website, or visit the Reference Desk for more information. Bvlax2005 (talk) 03:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


When going to a discussion page, if i want to respond to someone how do i do that? --Kgardner1123 (talk) 04:36, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Just as I'm doing here, edit the page or section you want and use a colon to indent once (or two for twice, etc.). More at Wikipedia:Talk page and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. WODUP 04:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
At the very top of the page (next to where you had originally clicked to access the discussion page) you can click "New Section" to create a new topic or click "edit this page" and you can add your response below the one you wish to reply to. You can also click "edit" next to the section title to only view/edit that section. It is customer to use a colon ( : ) to indent when replying to a topic (or two colons to reply a comment already indented, etc) Bvlax2005 (talk) 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Better photograph

If I believe I have a superior photograph to one that is currently displayed on a wikipedia page, can I replace the current picture with my own? How would I go about doing this?

Nohooksbrooks (talk) 13:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome to do that if your image has an appropriate license for Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Images and relevant pages linked from there. Here on the English Wikipedia you can upload an image when your account becomes autoconfirmed (4 days old and made 10 edits). If you make an account at Wikimedia Commons then you can upload images right away at that site and display them in articles here. Please come back if you have more questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Just remember that in most cases any freely licensed image is automatically "superior" to one that requires a fair use rationale, so if you have taken the photograph yourself, or are in contact with the photographer, please try to get the photo released under a free license (if you try to upload it on Commons, you'll get that message shoved in your face fairly quickly as well). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

My new article on "Adaptive Audio"

My new article on "Adaptive Audio" was deleted yesterday. I want to edit this to make it conform to your standards.

Do I have to start over, or can you direct me to the deleted page?

Also, what was the reason for deletion and what should I do to rectify that?

Please notify me via my Talk Page. D3innovation (talk) 19:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks,


D3innovation (talk) 19:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Answered on talk as requested. Algebraist 19:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you get me a copy of my deleted page titled "Adaptive Audio"


D3innovation (talk) 20:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The note on your talk page explains who to speak to about receiving a copy of the deleted article. Bvlax2005 (talk) 20:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

adding a webpage link

how do i add a link to my website Blackwoodart (talk) 02:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

To add a link to a non-Wikipedia site you add a single set of square brackets to the URL [] will produce [17]. If you want certain text to show up simply add a space after the URL and enter the text. [ this is a link] will produce this is link Bvlax2005 (talk) 02:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Please also read our conflict of interest policy at WP:COI. Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
And note that Wikipedia:External links#Advertising and conflicts of interest says: "You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it." PrimeHunter (talk) 17:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

x offenders pro

I would like to know more about Judge Mathis X offenders expunge program. I saw a segement, on TV-one, Judge Mathis was speaking about program. I did not know how to get information on this particular program, could you please inform me if you have any information. Thanks

Wanttobe= (talk) 16:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. GtstrickyTalk or C 17:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Dr Murray Banks

Can someone please tell me how to start a page for Dr Murray Banks. he was a famous psychologist in the 1950's and 1960's, who turned into a comedian. Sd110851 (talk) 07:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sd110851. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Question about what if.....

In the page history whenever an admin protects a page, this appears in the page history as "Protected XXXX..." What happens if you press undo to this edit? I assume it will be a null edit, so why is it that the wiki software allows the undo/rollback next to these type of "logs" in the page history. Even if an admin were to unprotect the page, i assume they have press the protect tab instead of just undoing the log of protection. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Whether the edit was protecting the page, changing the text, or something else, the "undo" link undoes the changes to the source text of the page. So yes, undo at a protection edit followed by saving will be a null edit. I admit it doesn't appear logical. Maybe the developers would have to add extra code to remove the undo link in special cases but I don't know how the code is or how it was decided. You could make a Bugzilla request to remove the undo link (I haven't examined whether there already is a request). See Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests. Note that it's possible to manually change the content of the edit box between clicking undo and save. Administrators have a tab saying either "protect" or "unprotect" depending on the state of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not New User.. .But..

New Hebrides 1906.gif
New Hebrides 1953.gif

Hi. I'm active in korean wikipedia, and I want to move this pic.s to my home wikipedia. But I can't understand this two images. Is this a same images? IF this is same, can you delate one of the images? --Bart0278 (talk) 10:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No, it isn't the same image. (Look a bit more closely at the crowns.) AlexiusHoratius 10:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh! Thank You very much. --Bart0278 (talk) 11:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

please could yuo link me tocontributions by excursioners in in August 2008

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 11:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you please clarify what you mean? There is no user on the English Wikipedia called excursioners.[18] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Category problem-link won't work

Hello and thank you for helping me,

On this page: in the Category area, the last category is not linking to the page: List of Carnegie Mellon University people

What have I done incorrectly? It worked on the other categories, but not this one. Also this was my first article, so any helpful criticism would of course be appreciated.

Thank you so much for your time.

MaddyStephens (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that List of Carnegie Mellon University people is a list, not a category. I've changed it to Category:Carnegie Mellon University alumni. Algebraist 18:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much, I now understand. MaddyStephens (talk) 19:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Gustav

Hey, I think there should be a temporary link to Hurricane Gustav at the top of the Gustav dismabiguation page, as especially now, many will be searching for gustav, even though it is still on the main page. From said disambig page, one has to click to Hurricane Gustav, then to the current one. Thanks. Baseballfan (talk) 06:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

You have a point. It's not exactly per normal disambiguation guidelines but I did it.[19] However, I'm not going to argue about it if somebody else reverts me. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Indeed. I was thinking of being bold, but thought I'd ask first anyway. Could save some people precious seconds to get to some possibly valuable information! Baseballfan (talk) 16:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Cite PHD Thesis?

Is a thesis submitted to a major university as part of PHD requirements automatically considered to be a reliable source? How do I cite it? Phil Burnstein (talk) 11:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Nothing is automatically a reliable source. There can be reasons why even non-vanity press published books may not constitute reliable sources, but that always involves a case-by-case analysis. But you can use a published thesis/dissertation and, more to the point, they are not considered automatically unreliable. The published part is, or course, crucial. It must be available (for example at UMI, Interlibrary loan, etc.) for readers to check that it verifies what it is stated to verify. You can use {{Cite paper}} to format your reference inside of <ref></ref> tags.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

How Can i Improve My Page Rank in Google for my website

Hi!] Have u any tips that how can i improve my google page rak for my website ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avdhoot in (talkcontribs) 18:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Search engine optimization. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 18:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Whatever other ways there might be, posting the link here is unlikely to help: the software used on Wikipedia automatically applies the rel="nofollow" attribute to all external links. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)