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Vegetarianism[edit]

There are a few sections where lists would be better converted to prose, like Terminology and varieties of vegetarianism and Vegetarian societies (the article doesn't even explain why these organisation are significant - and should probably just be merged into the history). Country specific information read like it was copied from a travel guide for vegetarians, and probably isn't worth keeping in the article as suitable sources would be difficult, and I don't see a great deal of use in applying blanket warnings to were food is and isn't safe for vegetarians - so I think it'd be best to cut it from the article. Why are religious and spiritial motivations in separate sections, are Aesthetic motivations really a separate concept to Physiological motivations. Referencing needs work, beyond the missing information, html links in text are not suitable for FAs, all the details of the source need to be fully cited for future tracability - look at using the ref/not footnote system throughout the article. Were possible cite reputable sources rather than something like this. The TIME cover needs a fair use rationale for use in this article.--nixie 05:59, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • I would say Spiritual and Religious motivations are very different. Spiritual is based on personal choice, experience and experimentation (i.e. "want to", see Spirituality) and Religious is based on doctrine (i.e. "have to"). Would suggest that motivations are listed alphabatically in the interests of neutrality (i.e. one cannot list motivations in order of importance without a POV dispute). --nirvana2013 13:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • I disagree with this statement. It is a Christo-centric (or possibly New Age) false dichotomy that does not apply to many non-Western or tribal cultures. In fact, it doesn't even apply to Judaism -- there is no separate word for "religion" in either Hebrew or Yiddish, and I have long argued that being Jewish is closer to belonging to a tribal culture than to a "religion" in the Western European sense. Jewish spirituality is integrated into the rituals and practices of Judaism which, in turn, are integrated into daily life. The same could be said for many Native American tribes (which also do not make such a distinction.) As a Jewish vegetarian I am BOTH "religious" and "spiritual" at the same time. Rooster613 18:58, 25 December 2005 (UTC)Rooster613[reply]
  • There is much that is good about this article, but the sections dealing with motivations are extremely patchy. The section on ethical motivations is particularly poor, almost non-existent. I'd recommend that you take a look at articles and books by the philosopher Peter Singer, who is a fine guide the growing body of moral arguments for vegetarianism. In particular, I'd include what seems to me a quite basic underlying moral principle that motivates much ethical vegetarianism, namely, that it is wrong to cause suffering to any being capable of experiencing suffering except for exceptionally good reasons (and liking the taste of that being is not such a reason).--Irishtimes 04:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Page size is huge. Please summarise the content and move details to dedicated daughter articles. Reduce the subheadings.
  2. =Terminology= can be converted to a table
  3. Hunzas live in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.
  4. In the U.S., as of 2000, 2.5 to 3% said they never eat meat.. not needed
  5. =Recent trends= should be merged with History
  6. Please do not embed external links inside the text. Use footnotes and invisible footnotes {{inote}}.
  7. 116°F (46.7°C). Metric units should come first as this is a universal topic.
  8. Needs a heavy copyedit. Most of the text seems to be personal accounts.
  9. =Country specific information= needs to be shifted to another page
  10. Nothing mentioned about the Jain diet. It is stricter than normal vegetarian food. Garlic, onion etc is not consumed.
  11. =Vegetarian cuisine= should be expanded
  12. Prune the =External links=

=Nichalp «Talk»= 08:26, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]