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Holidays

Just want to see what ya'll think. Anything goes. I will try to be adding more content, but I'm not sure how many good articles there are. Joe I 22:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • As you pointed out the content will eventually need to be increased, mainly the selected picture, quote and biographies.
  • Personally I hate the colours, red writing on a pink background in the headers is not good to look at.
    • They are meant to be Valentine's colors. I plan on changing every major holiday. I did have Christmas, will have St. Patrick's Day next. I will look around for abetter matching pair.
  • I love the calender tab its a great idea
    • ) ... As for the calendar, would it look best to cut Jan off completly, rotate to bottom(Current month first), or just straight out Jan-Dec?
  • Photo credits usually go between the image and the description.Hossen27 02:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done...Thanks Much :) Joe I 19:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work thus far, comments:

  • Lacks proper nomination systems for selected article, images, biographies, and quotes.
    • Check
  • The red colors don't go well together, please switch the coloring.
    • Same as above. They are meant to be Valentine's colors. I plan on changing every major holiday. I did have Christmas, will have St. Patrick's Day next. I will look around for abetter matching pair.
  • "Wiki relations" needs to be split to two proper sections: "Related portals" and "WikProjects".
  • The quotes section needs to be properly formatted using the quote markup.
    • Done
  • Add a "Things you can do" section for holiday-related articles.
  • "Selected article" images should be reduced in size. I also don't see any need in quotes on the section, instead you should put them in the quotes section.
    • Check
  • Remove the song articles from the "Selected biography" section.
    • Every kid in America knows that Frosty and Rudolf are just as important as Santa.
      • Still, biographies should be on people, not songs and stories. Michaelas10 (Talk) 19:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The categories tab seems to have plenty of unnecessary decorations. I suggest adding only Image:500px-Xmas tree animated.gif on the top-right corner as being an official holiday icon.
    • There is no official holiday icon(shouldn't be), I feel this best represents with verity and only adds to the appeal.
  • Move the tab context to Portal:Holidays/Categories in addition to the section itself as already done on Portal:Holidays/Calender.
    • Only naming of what is shown on page should matter. What if I wanted to add more later, we'ed have to rename it.
  • Photo credits go right below the image as per Hossen27.
    • Check
  • Put the entire name of the creator as an external link in the "Selected picture" section.
    • Check
  • Add a "More about holidays..." link at the introduction.
    • Check
  • "Holiday topics" > "Main topics". Michaelas10 (Talk) 14:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Check ... Thanks Alot :) Joe I 19:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm...obviously on the right track; I don't see any major problems. And Michealas10 already pointed them out (and they were fixed). I honestly thought it was a featued portal at first. I really like the calender; I think it is informative in all in all really helpful and interesting. ~ Arjun 13:59, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kerala

Comments and suggestions to improve this portal to featured status are welcome. Thanks!--thunderboltz(Deepu) 05:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wow.. that's a very original layout. It could use a bit of work to get to featured status, but otherwise I don't see how it will fail. My suggestions:
    • Removing excessive capitals from titles, it can make it really difficult to read for some people.
    • Why are there two archive pages for the selected pictures and articles? I suggest removing Portal:Kerala/SC Summary, and instead pointing the "archive" link to the section's own archive.
    • Excessive wording: "Nominate as a Selected Picture" > "Nominate".
    • Centralize the title of the introduction.
    • Create a suggestions page for the "Did you know" section. That section should also be renamed to "Did you know..." Michaelas10 (Talk) 10:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Good work on quickly dealing with most of these suggestions, further comments:
        • Remove the "Communist insignia" under the image on the news sections, the fact that it is an insignia is already mentioned in the text.
        • Remove the spacing between the date and the ":" in the news section.
        • Make all the text under the seperation line of the "Selected article" and "Selected picture" bold, and give similar seperation lines to the "Did you know..." and news section.
        • {{Kerala tasks}} is a redirect, change the link in the "Open tasks" section. The section overall requires expansion in some of its parts if possible. Also, "Kerala related" > "Kerala-related".
      • That's it I guess. Good luck! Michaelas10 (Talk) 11:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the comments on the original design.
I'm done with most of the suggestions above. Please see. I'm yet to expand the "open tasks" section, (which will be done when IST reads a more godly hour). The comment under the picture in the "News" section was added after an editor requested so at PR. So I'm in a dilemma right now. Should I keep it or remove it? Help!--thunderboltz(Deepu) 20:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm suggesting to remove it because it is moves the image to the center of the section and such captions do not normally exist on portals. But this isn't too serious really. Michaelas10 (Talk) 20:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've rid the news section of the caption. It didn't serve much purpose anyway.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 15:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are still two external links in the open tasks section (history & watch) that need to be removed. --WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 04:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! Missed 'em. Fixed now. Thanks!--thunderboltz(Deepu) 08:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • A quick comment: in the News section, you might want to combine the last two lines, "Current events on Wikinews" and "Archive" and make them one line. Very nice job with this portal! —sd31415 (sign here) 11:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the colors are so light, it's hard to tell exactly what's going on, but it looks like the intro text is pushing beyond its box border on the right, the box bottom border hangs a right in the middle of the left edge, and the background is light blue instead of white like the other boxes. Is this "on purpose"? :-) Rfrisbietalk 16:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • This look different in Firefox so it probably has something to do with RSS CSS. Trying different versions of the script will eventually fix it. Michaelas10 (Talk) 16:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yikes! Thanks for catching that. It has been fixed now. Yes, it was a CSS problem. The <div> tags in the {{Shortcut}} template interfered with the code, making it appear differently on IE.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 08:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • It looked sort of cool the other way too, but you would have had to figure out how to screw up all the other sections to make it look consistent! ;-) Rfrisbietalk 14:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some more improvements

A very nice portal. There are some more points listed below that could be useful in improvement.

  • Adding one or two more lines in Intro would be appericiable.
  • Add references to the every news.
  • Addng other than geography portal could be better. Some more closely related to religion, government, like Portal:Government of India. Remove Portal:West Bengal, I do not think it is very closely related.
  • Remove image gallery commons link from the list of topics. It has already been covered in associated wikimedia.
  • Rearrange the categories in the section.
  • Could Wikipedia in Malayalam move down to Topics section? Shyam (T/C) 19:38, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you for the review.
      • I've kept away from adding to the intro section as it would severely damage the layout of the portal, with text jumping below the map on the left. Do you think there is a lack of clarity as to what the portal is about at present?
      • I've added references for most of the news items, and will keep adding one for every new entry.
      • I've added the GoI portal to the list now.
      • Image gallery link has been removed.
      • Categories have been re-arranged alphabetically.
      • Reg. "Wikipedia in Malayalam", I put it there to use as a space adjuster so that the portal doesnt look odd when articles of varying length are displayed in the "selected article" space. If I move it down, then a void would appear on one of the sides of the two rows of the portal.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 19:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Current events: Canada

I've never really done a current events portal. They seem to be quite rare and relatively 'plain'. I wonder what it would take for a current events-based portal to become featured, or perhaps it never could. Anyway, any advice, suggestions, or comments to making this portal a little bit extrodinary would be great. Mkdwtalk 09:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mkdw. Considering the Current events portal is, far and away, the most visited portal according to WikiCharts, I see no reason why portals in this group can't become featured. In fact, it's about time we go our first one on the books! :-) I'm not exactly sure what that would look like either, but I'm willing to help out. I'll take a closer look in the near future and share some impressions. Rfrisbietalk 21:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments: For starters, I'll assume the Current events portal is the main model for comparison, with some common general portal features thrown in for good measure. :-) Rfrisbietalk 22:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • To promote "crossover" traffic, you might try {{browsebar}} at the top of the page. As a reader of news after I'm done reading the Canadian news, I like to see what else is going on in the world. Having the bar at the top allows me easy access to all the other countries and their news. Also, I found that the other portals that were being maintained well keep this bar at the top and will most likely become a standard once a Current events portal becomes featured. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I had thought about that. I eventually found several reasons to keep {{Portal:Current events/News Browser}} at the top of the page.
        • I don't think it's an either/or question. I was thinking of just adding the new one above the other. Rfrisbietalk 12:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The color schemes appear to come from three different styles. You might try adding the same "shade" of body to the daily items on the left as is on the right.
    • Remove the box-in-the-box for Things you can do.
    • Split "Related pages" in two boxes - projects and portals.
    • The Current events box on the bottom is redundant with the boxes on the top. Pick one.
    • More images all around would make it look more like a "regular" portal, but you already knew that. :-)
I've seen some of the other portals you have assembled and I would be thrilled to collaborate with you on this 'groundbreaking' portal. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fun! :-) Rfrisbietalk 12:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions by Sd31415 (talk • contribs)

I hope these suggestions aren't the same as Rfrisbie's.

  1. In the lead story box, this is too much spacing. However, if you want to keep it that way, I suggest adding a space after the "Request a Lead Story..." line.
  2. There is extra spacing before the top daily box.
  3. I was wondering, do the maroon headers match the blue theme?
    Since this is the Canadian current events portal, I wanted to keep the theme of blue used in all current events portals while mixing in a red that wasn't intrusive. I also had the concern that I did not want this portal to 'become' the Portal:Canada or exactly similar. A character of its own. If the maroon isnt working, is there another Canadian colour scheme you can think of. Its always worth a shot. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Ahh... Whatever you choose works fine, then. S.D. ¿п? § 12:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  4. I don't think YOU has to be capitalized in the "Things you can do" box. Instead, you could italicize it.
    Done. Mkdwtalk 07:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  5. The "Things you can do" box needs some cleaning up. I suggest removing red links from the "News Sources" column, removing capital letters, removing underlines, and maybe deleted some …'s. The …'s seem to be used a little too much on the left column.
  6. In the "Archive" box, delete the extra • after 2007.
    Done. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Is the horizontal line necessary in the "Related Pages" box?
    I'm hoping to make it two boxes. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, then you could have "Related Portals" & "Related Projects". S.D. ¿п? § 12:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  8. In the "Elections" box, spaces are needed before and after the & in the "27&30: DR..." line.
    Done. Mkdwtalk 07:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Possible having the formatting of the "Lead Story," "Related Pages," etc. boxes match that of the daily items, elections, etc. boxes?
    The conflict I have is that the template for the {{Portal:Current events/News Browser}} is used on all the current events portal and the colour scheme has been used to match the main Portal:Current events. The same thing with the calendar. The only thing we could do is either created our own template with matching colours, but we'd lose the benefit that everytime those templates or calendar is updated, we would not receive the updates and have to do it ourselves. At this time there are not enough active contributors to do it. I also don't want to make it look like a copy of the main Portal:Current events. Its the Canadian current events portal and I think if it is to be featured, will need its own look. Mkdwtalk 07:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    With any template, it's always possible to make an atribute (e.g., color) a parameter. It's then possible to customize the parameter as needed. See {{Portal nav footer}} for an example. Rfrisbietalk 13:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I matched the "Current events" box colors to the portal colors to show how it's done. I didn't change the border width (from 2px to 1px) but that's possible too. Rfrisbietalk 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why this portal won't eventually be featured. ;) Cheers! S.D. ¿п? § 00:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your suggestions, I agree with them all. Mkdwtalk 07:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's some sort of display problem with the left column box borders. They are 1px too narrow. Rfrisbietalk 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added the border-width=2 parameter value to /box footer so that all boxes have 2px borders. Rfrisbietalk 17:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A bit different, but I think this can become featured. Serious fonting issues. Comments:
    • Don't capitalize/make bold/make italic words to highlight them, "you", "ADD", "SUGGEST", whatever.
    • "Lead Story" > "Lead story". WP:MSH. "Current Events..." > "Current events...". "News Sources" > "News sources". "Events by Month" > "Events by month".
    • "Request a Lead Story" > "Request a lead story". "Previous Lead Stories" > "Previous lead stories".
    • There are two widely accepted styles of linking to news sources, either with a read more link or the name of the website, choose one of them and use it for all the news entries. Also "(Read More...)" > "(Read more...)".
      • News stories are a bit different. The "read more" commonly found on Portals is only practiced with articles that have internal links. In previous featured portal reviews, it has been the concensus that news stories cite their article and source by listing the publisher name: BBC, CBC, CNN, etc. etc.. The Portal:Current events/Canada is also a current events portal and should follow the standard for citing sources which is also the same. Listing the story link as the publisher name. Mkdwtalk 03:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • The problem is that the "read more" format is also used, and so are a few others. The format on all external links should remain the same, and by publishers name in this case. Michaelas10 (Talk) 14:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Headers are either large and black-colored or small and red-colored. I suggest making all small and black-colored. Italics are optional but aren't recommended.
    • "WikiProjects" section should go above "Related portals". "Events by Month" should go above both.
    • "Archive" > "Archives".
    • Add suggestions and archival pages for quotes.
      • I'll start work on the suggestion page. The quotes section has about 10 quotes that automatically rotate every 10mins. Mkdwtalk 03:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • In that case, link to the page where the rotated items are seen. Michaelas10 (Talk) 21:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Capitalize the main subject for each news entry per the "In the news" section on the main page. Michaelas10 (Talk) 11:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Could you clarify this one? Capitalizing the subject is not an english language practice, or a Wikipedia:naming convention, or done on the main page. The subjects are capitalized on the main page because all the subjects are names of countries or people, to which one would naturally capitalize. However, if the subject was 'storm' you could not have a sentence like "In 2005, more than six-hundred Storms occurred". Mkdwtalk 03:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Basque

I'd like to bring this one to featured, so I'd much appreciate comments and suggestions for improvement. Thank you.--Húsönd 18:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Húsönd. I'll add a few tips here and there and/or help make minor adjustments. Rfrisbietalk 19:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Set up a complete system for rotated content sections that includes:
    • an automated rotation system (scheduled or random)
    • archives (as well as the nomination process)
    • at least ten items per section
    • photo credits & captions (no "thumbs")
  • Nice work so far Húsönd! In addition to the comments by Rfrisbie, I also have a few styling concerns:
    • Please remove the excessive capital text from the intro, it makes it difficult to read for some people.
    • Remove image frame from the "Selected article" section.
    • Avoid repetition of the portal's name: "Basque news" > "News". "Basque topics" > "Topics".
    • In the "Categories" section Category:Basque has 13 subcategories, please list them all.
    • Shorten: "Choose the next selected ..." > "Nominations"/"Nominate".
    • A picture of Miguel de Unamuno at the quotes section?
    • "Related portals" isn't complete, it lacks more general things like the geography portal. Same for the "WikiProjects" section, maybe include WikiProject Ethnic groups?
    • "Things you can do" needs expansion.
    • Format "Basque topics" section correctly using bullets.
    • "Selected picture" needs one paragraph, I suggest adding what's already written in Sare to it and then explain what's in it. Michaelas10 (Talk) 19:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey, thanks for all the suggestions. I'll start working on them right away.--Húsönd 21:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • In addition to Rfrisbie and Michaelas10's comments, maybe you could include the topics and categories in the columns. —sd31415 (sign here) 00:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1st progress report on changes:
    • as proposed by Rfrisbie:
    • as proposed by Michaelas10:
      • Excessive capital text removed from the intro.
      • I'm reluctant about removing the image from the selected article section. Any particular reason/rule for that? In my opinion, that section looks much better with a picture. "Frame", duh. Got it.
      • Repetition of the portal's name removed.
      • All subcategories now listed.
      • "Choose the next selected..." shortened as suggested.
      • Quotes section now displays a picture.
      • Unsure about adding the Portal:Geography to the related portals section. Portals of other nations aren't displaying it, and the Basque Country is more of a historic, ethnic region than a simply geographic one.
      • WikiProject Ethnic groups added, still looking for further related WikiProjects to add.
      • I need suggestions for additions to "Things you can do". Or maybe I'll just transclude this from WikiProject Basque.
      • Basque topics are now bulleted.
      • The selected pictures already contain a brief description, do they really require a paragraph? In the particular case of Sare it would be ok as the article is a brief sentence itself, but what about the proposed image Image:SunsetinBiarritz.JPG? Could it have more than a short statement saying something like "a sunset in Biarritz"?
    • as proposed by Sd31415:
      • Good idea. I shall do that as soon as I'm done with the "Things you can do" and "WikiProjects" sections in order to better organize the final space.
  • Once again thank you all for your valued feedback. Further comments/suggestions are most welcome.--Húsönd 00:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Use full-size section footer text and balance left- and right-justified entries, using consistent placements for each type. Rfrisbietalk 02:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Adjust "Related portals" for 800X600 displays. Check for any other 800X600 display problems from archived items, usually caused by oversized images. Rfrisbietalk 02:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some more points to consider

  • Portal lacks of main article Basque. Is it possible to move Basque to Basque (disambiguation) and Basque Country (historical territory) to Basque? If yes, then rewite the Intro section.
  • Do not use image thumb in the Selected article section.
  • Refernce all the news in the concerned section. Add archive link to it as well.
  • Consider summarizing the texts included in selected article section. Add archive link as well.
  • Mention image credit in Selected picture section.
  • Add archive link to DYK section.
  • Expand Topics section.
  • Expand Thins you can do section.
  • Except Wiktionary, all other Associated Wikimedia do not exist, please link them properly or do not consider having this section.
  • Do not use image thumb in Quotes section. Consider shortening the external link as well. Shyam (T/C) 16:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

World War I

Although this portal was initially constructed as a means of reducing the use of the massive World War I template, I am now trying to bring it up to featured status. All comments are welcome (but please note that there are limits to me technical know-how). Carom 15:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to list some certain issues which could be needed some work before going for candidacy.

  • Intro section has a large amount of bolded words. Please bold only World War I. Consider summarizing the section.
  • Selected event archives lack of an image in every events. They vary from 4 lines intoduction to 16 lines introduction. Having less variation could be appericiated. Introduction could be between 8 and 12 lines. Consider boldening only main article. You can add nomination procedure as well.
  • Selected equipment archives also lack of an image in every equipments. Consider boldening single main article and removing internal red links. You can add nomination procedure as well.
  • Selected picture archives lack of image credits corresponding to every pictures. You can add nomination procedure as well.
  • Selected biography archive can have a nomination procedure. Consider de-linking one internal red-link.
  • Consider special search bar box for Wikimedia-sister projects from Topics section.
  • Consider removing the entries from Associated Wikimedia which do not exist or can not be created. I do not expect a wikinews link in the portal.
  • Featurd articles section do not need seperate FA-star images for every article. One of the similar kind of images could be used in the section. Shyam (T/C) 16:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestions! As far as the selected pictures are concerned, it was not possible to determine the photographer for many of the images. Do you believe I should simpy credit the online archive from which they were uploaded to WikiMedia? Carom 16:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Preferbaly do not use external links. Find an internal link corresponding to them. You can see this example for photo credit, how they are credited in the lack of author. Shyam (T/C) 16:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll see what I can do. Carom 18:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I have taken care of most of your concerns, with a couple of exceptions. I have left the FA stars in, as I think they add to the visual appeal of the portal (and a couple other featured portals use them). for the selected pictures, I have added the original source of the image, where available. In some cases, this has not been possible, and I have added text indicating the most specific source I could identify. I think I have addressed most of the points you raised, please let me know if you have any further problems. Carom 20:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A few things off hand as for the nominations I created a newer version of the random portal component a while back that automaticly sets the sections you want to have suggest boxes you can add this to your page by changing the string {{Random portal component|max=10|header=Selected whatever|footer=More whatever...|subpage=Selected whatever}} to {{Random portal component with nominate|max=10|header=Selected whatever|footer=More selected whatever...|subpage=Selected whatever}} for the sections you want to have a suggest box and then create the suggest page that shows up in red in the section.
  • the Associated Wikimedia is aligning right it should either be centered or justified.
  • For the selected bio you need to make the persons name a bold link to their article not just bold. --WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 17:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'll look into changing the string - but a question: does anyone actually suggest articles? I've seen a few portals with the suggest function, but they seem to be unused. Do you know of a portal where the function is actually being utilized? On your second point, I'm not having that problem - not sure why it's happening for you, but I'll check it out. And the last point, I had added the "Read more..." links to link directly to the main article, but you're the third person to suggest linking from the intro itself, so I'll go ahead and change it. Carom 18:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have actually seen a few different popular portals that utilized the suggest feature.--WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 18:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I think I have taken care of mose of your suggestions - I changed the string to have suggestion pages - do you feel the setup of the suggestion page works? I cribbed most of it from Portal:Medicine, and changed things around a bit. I also fixed the alignment of the Associated Wikimedia and linked all the article titles. Thanks again for your suggestions! Carom 01:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Looking good, great work I think all of my issues have been resolved. --WilsBadKarma (Talk/Contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seems FL worthy right now. Suggestions:

  • Reduce the size of the introduction a little to conform the portal standards, merging stubbish paragraphs can be helpful. Remove linking of years alone.
  • At the selected picture section: "Photograph by" > "Credit:", and place it right below the picture, creating an extra space between it and the description. Also format the full dates properly per WP:DATE. You might want to expand some of the descriptions a little.
  • "Selected event", "Selected equipment", "Selected biography" sections - Make the "Read more..." link bold and place it in the bottom-right point of the section, while putting "...Suggest • More selected X" at the bottom-left.
  • "Featured articles" > "Featured content". I prefer not to make a limit, non-article additions can go in subheaders though.
  • "Related content" > "Related portals".
  • Can you explain the black links at the "Associated Wikimedia" section? It seems confusing to me. Michaelas10 (Talk) 20:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The black links in the Associated Wikimedia are due to using the same formatting as Portal:War - I have no real preference, though, and if blue links are preferred, it is easy enough to change them. I'll look into your other points. Carom 20:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Electronics

Lots and Lots of work has been done.I wouldn't mind adding a bio section, but both sides are fairly even now, so...Anyways, looking for any comments.:)Joe I 05:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions from Sd31415 (talk • contribs)

  1. Needs a "More about electronics" link at the bottom right of the top box.
    Added More about... links, but not sure I like it.The bold links starting the paragraphs should be enough.
    Yes, now I see. You can remove it — it's up to you. —S.D. ¿п? 00:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Other portals, like the featured dog portal, use the wording "Show new selections" instead of "Switch content."
    That was a pun on the word switch(also used in electronics).
    :) I see. —S.D. ¿п? 00:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. More selected pictures, designs, etc. needed.
    More content is always a given.
  4. A break after the last box (portals: ...) needed.
    <br> added
  5. The two should be smaller.
    Made em smaller, but I think the problem is that the title is not centered horizontally in the bar.
  6. Possibly DYK and selected article boxes?
    Added bio box.

Otherwise, looks good. —S.D. ¿п? 14:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input :)Joe I 06:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions from Michaelas10 (talk • contribs)

Not very sure about this one, but it look pretty well-done. Suggestions:

  • Remove the images next to "The Electronics Portal", they are useless and don't go well with the green background.
It's an on/off switch, I thought it was cute.Maybe they go better with the new colors?
  • Create nomination pages for selected biographies, designs, pictures, and products.
Done. Ci good?
  • Reduce the size of the high voltage warning at the introduction. No need to bold "Consumer electronics".
The portal is about the "field of electronics" as well as "consumer electronics", which can be two tottaly different demons.Some distinction is needed.
  • "Switch content..." - "Switch selections". The selections switch, not the content.
Done
  • I'd personally prefer one paragraph for each image selection. You might want to take it right off the main article.
I don't understand.The images have a simple one line summary.All other content boxes, all of them are limited to one paragraph.Please point to where you see more that one.
  • Photo credit goes right below the image with an extra space between it and the description.
There is a <br> between the centered description and centered credit on every image.If not, please point out specifics.
  • Don't make the size of the selected picture larger than its original, or at least pick bigger images.
I'll look into it.Some of the designs look bad cause, yes, I pumped em up to 400px, but they are also png instead of svg.
  • "Electronics topics" > "Main topics". Avoid repetition of the portal's name or subject.
Done
  • Make the width of the "Related portals" section 100% and place it above the "Associated Wikimedia" section. The width of the portal images is larger than the width of the section on bigger font sizes and the section screws up.
Did that, but it made big blank spots on either side within the box.Maybe I'll just add another row.
  • Place the images at the bottom of the "Associated Wikimedia" section rather than in its middle. No need to make the links black.
Don't see how it matters much, but ok most other FPs have them in that order although the little links "news", "quotes" etc... are always black.(Found two FPs without a wikimedia box at all, oooo) :)
Will work on a news.Thanks for the input.:)Joe I 02:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Rfrisbietalk 21:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Intro:
    • I'm not a big fan of the images in the header bar the way it looks. I prefer it like Template:Sikhism where there's no clash in backgrounds. Do you have something with a transparent background?
      • Removed
    • The image reminds me of the Philosophy of science intro. Could you rotate some set of images with linked captions?
      • Good idea, I'll look into it.
        • Done
  • Bio:
    • Interesting placement. I'm sure someone won't like it.
  • Design:
    • I would put the "Credit" line (they're not "Photos") directly under the image.
      • Done
  • Pic:
    • I would put the "Credit" line (they're not "Photos") directly under the image.
      • Done
  • Topics:
    • Centering groups with bolded titles looks weird to me. I would left-justify them.
  • Portals:
    • The ordering isn't totally apparent. Someone won't like it.
  • Showcase:
    • 150px images are too wide for a 67%/32% column layout, even at 1024X768. Some words are too long to fit next to the image.
      • 100px
  • Cats:
    • I'm ambivalent about category trees in portals, but it seems to work quite well in the narrow column with IE. For example, it wraps correctly when needed. You might want to ask the Usability project for their thoughts on it.
  • Projects:
    • Again, the sorting order might come into question.
  • Media:
    • The text looks too small to me. I didn't bother to test the links.
      • Increased text abit
  • Archive/Noms/Rotation:
    • I prefer including a direct link above an item on the archive page. "Anyone" should have simple access to a subpage.
      • Done
    • The "nominations" really aren't. They're already being used in the "archive" rotation. Just adding another section header should clarify the difference.
      • Done
    • Since none of the included items have any indication of going through the described process (that I saw), who knows what that's worth?
  • Header & Footer:
    • I don't think you'll get away with not including {{browsebar}}.
      • Added
    • I also like {{Portal nav footer}} better than {{Portals}} (even if I did make the former ;-), but I wouldn't be surprised if you get some flack for that. I made it less obtrusive by blending it into the background.
  • Boxes & Background:
    • Looks nice, although I prefer regular over italic headers.
  • 800X600 displays:
    • It's "broken" at this resolution. This is a featured deal breaker IMHO. Images need to be downsized for the columns to display properly.
      • Downsized 400px to 350px.
  • What's not there:
    • I prefer having a "Read more bla bla bla..." link in each applicable box.
    • "Quotes" and "Anniversaries" seem to be growing in popularity, but I really don't care.
  • Overall:
    • Top-notch overall!

  • One likely featured portal deal breaker (800X600 image/column display problem).

  • Thanks :)
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