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Talk:Mark Begich

Trying to determine whether or not this is 1) a reliable source, and 2) not a violation of WP:UNDUE -- Here is the material as it currently appears in the article.

In all of his 6 years in the US Senate Beigich has received a 100% rating from abortion-proponents NARAL and a 0% rating from abortion-opponents NRLC. ---- here is the source


Comments

Looking at it closer, the source appears reliable, but having the above material in the article is a clear violation of WP:UNDUE as it is not attributed to any other source than this website. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 09:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

Should the moratorium on page moves, as described at the top of this talk page, remain in place until 7 January 2015 (the full three months) or should it be ended when this RfC is closed? -- PBS (talk) 13:19, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 Hong Kong protests

The Chronology section reporting the ongoing news is getting too large; I propose to move its content to Wikinews under Hong Kong as per WP:NOTNEWS. STSC (talk) 10:24, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:List of environmental organizations

I'm uncertain about the value/ strengths/ focus of this article. Arguably, its main strength is the listing of environmental NGOs. But, as argued above, would this best be done via Categories by country? Should this article be renamed/ refocused/ further developed as a List of environmental non-governmental organizations, by country? Should it be deleted? Thanks for your input. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 09:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Battle of Cedar Creek

We have other two topics named "Battle of Cedar Creek": Battle of Cedar Creek (Jacksonville) and Battle of Cedar Creek (1876). Recently, I created Battle of Cedar Creek (disambiguation) just in case. This "Battle of Cedar Creek" topic discusses one of battles fought in Virginia in 1864 during the American Civil War. Is this topic primary per WP:primary topic? If not, how can you disambiguate this Virginia battle? --Gh87 in the public computer (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming

I propose on Jan 1 we add the underlined text to the listing criteria
Since the publication of the IPCC Third Assessment Report, each has made a clear statement in his or her own words (as opposed to the name being found on a petition, etc) disagreeing with one or more of the report's three main conclusions, and each has been described in reliable sources as a climate skeptic, denier, or in disagreement with any of the three main conclusions.

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:University of Cambridge

Should Nick Griffin appear under the present "Notable alumni and academics" section under politics? See points above. Sjgknight (talk) 17:41, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 Winter Olympics opening ceremony {{rfcquote|text=

Talk:Paul LePage

Should the section on LePage's meetings with alleged members of the Sovereign Citizen's Movement include information on the topics discussed at those meetings, including the suggestion that Maine legislative leaders were guilty of treason and should be executed? GabrielF (talk) 14:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Climate change denial

There is a disagreement over whether the actual word 'denial' must occur in citations for climate change denial or whether for instance 'climate change scepticism' be accepted as a substitute where it is obviously referring to denial, i.e. where the science is being rejected for non-scientific reasons unrelated to climate change? Dmcq (talk) 00:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Joni Ernst

 :Ernst is [[United States pro-life movement|pro-life]], believing that life begins at conception.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.joniforiowa.com/issues/|title=ISSUES - Joni Ernst for Iowa|work=Joni Ernst for Iowa|accessdate=30 September 2014}}</ref> She voted for a [[Personhood#Beginning of personhood|fetal personhood]] amendment in the Iowa Senate in 2013 and has said that she would support a federal personhood bill.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/16/senate-candidate-endorses_n_5997126.html |title=Senate Candidate Joni Ernst Endorses Federal Personhood Bill For Fetuses |work=The Huffington Post |date=October 16, 2014 |accessdate=October 17, 2014}}</ref>

Is currently in this BLP. The first source is simply her personal campaign website, while the other is an article from the Huffington Post. The latter article also has "Democrats have been emphasizing their opponents' support for fetal personhood in the hope that it would turn off Independent voters" as part of its internal balancing commentary for the claim.

Where the only non-campaign source has balancing comments regarding the reasoning for the campaign claim, and is used to back claims in the BLP, ought we elide the other comments in that non-campaign source? 16:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Steve Daines

Is Steve Daines a "Tea Party activist" for purposes of categorization? He was endorsed by a Tea Party group, but shows no other connection to the movement. 23:18, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Arab Winter

Is the section Arab Winter#Arenas original research? - Cwobeel (talk) 23:54, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:United States pro-life movement

OK, this is my first attempt at initiating a REQUEST FOR COMMENT, so I hope I'm doing it right.

Should the "Violence" section of this article (US Pro-life movement) contain a single sentence describing the fringe element of the US pro-life movement which supports violence against abortion workers, lionizes (and raises money for) those who commit anti-abortion violence, and defends the murders of abortion workers as "justifiable homicides"? Goblinshark17 (talk) 07:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17

The argument about whether or not this tag belongs in the article caused an edit war that went all the way to ANI. The argument is still unresolved. Should this tag be placed at the top of the article? USchick (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:American-led intervention in Syria

In the article should we use the abbreviation ISIL, ISIS, or IS when describing the group known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Indicate which one you support being used by bolding ISIL, ISIS, or IS and then providing a brief opinion of why. This is an expansion of the discussion above but a bit more structured. - SantiLak (talk) 00:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Application of sharia law by country

Should "application of sharia" in this article include "legal code that applies parts of and norms derived from sharia"?

The context for the dispute and discussion can be found on talk page here; and therein, the terms sharia, Islamic law and religious law of Islam are synonymous. RLoutfy (talk) 13:54, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Peter Principle

Three editors deleted the following passage several times from Peter_Principle#Forerunners or contest it; User:Robertgreer and I restored it in vain. Reasons for and against inclusion are stated in the first subsection here. Please append your comments at the end of the chapter. -- Wegner8 10:36, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:The Zeitgeist Movement

Should the reception section focus on The Zeitgeist Movement or the Zeitgeist films?--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 17:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Arab Winter

Does the current title meet policies and guidelines related to titling, like WP:AT and WP:NCE? If you disagree, care to propose a new name? --George Ho (talk) 08:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 military intervention against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

A RfC has already concluded that the members of the American-led faction will be ordered in their section of the infobox so that the U.S. is always first and all other nations follow it in alphabetical order. How should each of the faction sections be ordered in the infobox?
- alphabetical order by "leading" nation in faction (short form: alphabetical)

Talk:Gaza flotilla raid

Should the following statement be included in the lead?

The UNHRC report was adopted 30-1 with 15 abstentions. The United States expressed concern about the tone, content and conclusions of the report and the European Union stated that it should be transferred to the UN Secretary-General's investigation.[1][2] 15:11, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Gaza flotilla raid

Should the following content be added to this article?

In 2014 prominent member of IHH, Yakup Bülent Alnıak who had been aboard the Mavi Marmara and who had written a book on the incident was killed in an American airstrike in Syria.[3] According to reports from Turkey and quoted by YNet News, Alnıak had joined the Islamic State and had taken part in combat missions, other reports claim he had joined the Al Nusra Front,[4] and the Turkish publication World Bulletin claimed Alnıak was there to distribute food to those in need. And another report claimed he was there to research a book. He is survived by a wife and two children.[5][6]

(Some discussion here). Darkness Shines (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Marital rape

There is a dispute regarding the accuracy of these sections and of the map. An editor with very good knowledge of legal issues (familiar with both common law and civil law legal systems) would be an ideal help.

The questions are:

  • Should the sections stay?
  • Should the map stay?
  • What sources are appropriate (ie. sufficiently reliable)? What to do about contradictory sources?

The relevant problems are discussed on this talk page, in particular in the section Countries where spousal rape is a criminal offence/not criminalized above, but also in other sections such as Questions; Factual accuracy on countries that criminalize/don't criminalize, of map; and using reliable sources ; or I am again raising SERIOUS concerns about the accuracy of this article in regard to country laws and sources and other sections. Also see this discussion also User_talk:TheReportingReporter#Marital_rape.2A02:2F0A:506F:FFFF:0:0:BC1B:459D (talk) 00:22, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 military intervention against ISIS

Should Syrian government forces military actions against ISIS be removed or not? This is different from the RfC earlier which addressed whether only US allied forces should be included. To be clear Support means that you support the removal of Syrian government forces-Oppose means you oppose the removal of Syrian government forces. - SantiLak (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:2014 Iranian-led intervention in Iraq

Should an article be created containing all states that have launched a Military intervention in Iraq against ISIS in 2014?Serialjoepsycho (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Joni Ernst

Is this edit proper?

An article in Yahoo News reported that at a January 2014 GOP forum in Montgomery County, Iowa, Ernst warned that Agenda 21, the U.N.'s 1992 voluntary action plan for sustainable development, could force Iowa farmers off their land, dictate what cities Iowans must live in, and control how Iowa citizens travel from place to place, stating that “The United Nations has imposed this upon us, and as a U.S. senator, I would say, ‘No more. No more Agenda 21.’ Community planning — to the effect that it is implementing eminent domain and taking away property rights away from individuals" <ref>{{cite web|last1=Shiner|first1=Meredith|title=Will Joni Ernst’s flirtations with the political fringe haunt her in November?|url=http://news.yahoo.com/will-joni-ernst-s-flirtations-with-the-political-fringe-haunt-her-in-november-223054974.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory|publisher=Yahoo News|accessdate=13 August 2014}}</ref> (bolding indicates the edit) 17:19, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Joni Ernst

Should the statement "On Social Security, which Ernst wants to privatize Ernst said said, "Within 20 years, the system will be broke," which isn't even close to resembling reality." be reflected in this BLP? 12:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Statehouse News Online

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Insufficient coverage by independent reliable sources. I could only find one such source (Pew) and the coverage there is nowhere near enough to create an encyclopedic article. Two more sources (In These Times, Wisconsin Citizens Media Cooperative.) are independent but appear unreliable. On top of that the subject's website appears to be defunct. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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Tim Slagle

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The subject of the article, a comedian and writer, does not meet the criteria for inclusion established at Wikipedia:Notability (people) -- "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." Looking at the references in the article, one, The Advocates, is a promotional page. The other two, a CNN story about TV shows and a Filmfodder movie review, only mention Mr. Slagle in passing, the latter even referring to him as "unknown comedian Tim Slagle". I tried to find more reliable, third-party references, but the only one I came up with was this interview on Minneapolis City Pages -- but that's about Mr. Slagle being adopted and finding his birth family, not about his stand-up comedy or his writing (and it also might be considered a blog, depending on your definition). The article itself reads like a promotional piece, but that could be fixed if the subject met the criteria for WP:BIO, which however he does not. Mudwater (Talk) 02:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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  • Comment - THIS would seem to count towards GNG. This is going to be a close call one way or the other, not a slam dunk for deletion. I don't have time to investigate now, sadly, gotta go to work. Carrite (talk) 16:44, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep - I'm gonna toss one more into the pile THIS from the Trenton Trib. At a cursory glance this looks like a GNG pass — a rare bird, a conservative political comedian. Carrite (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep - A GNG pass, in light of sources cited by Carrite.--4scoreN7 (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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  1. ^ "US concerned UNHRC flotilla probe may stop peace talks". The Jerusalem Post. 28 September 2010. Retrieved 28 September 2010. 
  2. ^ "Davutoğlu disappointed over US vote against UN’s flotilla report". Today's Zaman. 01 October 2010.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  3. ^ Solomon, Ariel Ben (9 28 2914). "Turkish activist that participated in Marmara flotilla killed in US strike". Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 6 October 2014.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  4. ^ Schwartz, Sharona (Sep. 29, 2014). "One of Those Killed in U.S.-Led Syria Strikes Had a Connection to a Famous Violent Incident". The Blaze. Retrieved 6 October 2014.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  5. ^ "Mavi Marmara gazisi ABD bombardımanında şehit düştü". Time Turk. 25 Eylül 2014. Retrieved 6 October 2014.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  6. ^ "Mavi Marmara survivor killed in Syria air strike". World Bulletin. 25 September 2014. Retrieved 6 October 2014.