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This page only deals with the deletion and renaming of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion or renaming have to be put on Templates for discussion or Categories for discussion, respectively.
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| Project page | talk |
| - Stub types (sections) | talk |
| - Stub types (full list) | talk |
| - To do | talk |
| - Naming conventions | talk |
| - Stub redirects | talk |
| Wikipedia:Stub | talk |
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| Criteria (A) | talk |
| Proposals (A) | talk |
| Discoveries (A) | talk |
| Deletion (Log) | talk |
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[edit] About this page
This page is for the proposal, discussion, and voting on deletion or renaming of stub categories, stub templates, and stub redirects. Centralizing the vote on these three closely related matters on one page reduces the need for repeating identical arguments on several different Wikipedia deletion pages (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion, and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion) and also reduces the workload on those pages.
This page is still named "Stub types for deletion" for two reasons. Firstly, many of the stub types brought here arrive here after rudimentary discussion has already taken place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. Secondly, renaming automatically implies some form of deletion. The renaming of a stub category leads to the replacement and deletion of the older category, and the renaming of a stub template usually (but not always) leads to the deletion of the previous template name, as stub template redirects are rarely used (for the reasons for this, see the stub naming conventions).
[edit] Putting a stub type on Stub types for deletion (SfD), and what happens afterwards
- Mark the affected pages:
- For deletion:
- For renaming:
- Put {{sfr-t|New-name}} (parameter optional) on stub templates
- Put {{sfr-c|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub categories
- Put {{sfr-r|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub redirects (Redirects should be nominated for renaming only as part of a mass renaming that includes templates that share the name element to be renamed that the redirect uses.)
- List the stub type below in a new subsection at the top of the section which has the current date. If that section does not yet exist, create it.
- Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:
==== {{tl|banana stub}} / [[:Category:Banana stubs]] / {{tl|YellowCurvyFruit-stub}} (redirect) ==== - Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
- Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type!
- Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:
- It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors to the stub that you are nominating the stub. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the stub. Some standard pre-formed notices are {{sfdnotify1}}, {{sfdnotify2}}, or {{sfd-notice}}.
- After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
- Archived discussions are logged here, and are marked with {{sfd top}} and {{sfd bottom}}, indicating whether category and template were renamed, deleted, or no action taken.
[edit] Putting {{sfd-r}} or {{sfr-r}} on redirects
Given that the {{sfd-r}} and {{sfr-r}} templates break redirection, it is necessary to change a stub redirect when adding the template, as follows:
#Redirect [[Template:Example-stub]] should be changed to:
{{sfd-r}}{{Example-stub}}
[edit] Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type
- It is not used in any article, and its category is empty.
- It overlaps with other stub types, or duplicates them outright.
- Its scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 existing appropriate stub articles, 30 if there is a specific associated WikiProject.
- Its scope is too ambiguous or vague - in these cases, renaming may be more appropriate than outright deletion.
- The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect.
- They are malformed, misnamed, or deprecated redirects. See the stub naming guidelines for details on how stubs are named.
[edit] What this page is not for
- Stub templates that were not approved by the WikiProject and/or created through the proposal process (unless other reasons apply) — list those on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. From there, they may later be taken to this page
- Patently nonsensical or insulting stub types — they may be speedily deleted.
- Empty categories with no corresponding template — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD) criterion C1).
- Recently created stub types not used on any articles — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per WP:CSD criterion C1). This does not apply to types properly proposed and accepted which have not yet been populated.
- Malformed stub types to which no further deletion reasons apply — fix them or tell the Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting.
- Stub categories that are too large — these are not deleted, even if they get subdivided.
[edit] Typical opinion options
- Keep (do not delete or modify)
- Delete (delete template and category)
- Merge with xx-stub (delete category, keep template (either as redirect to, or feeding into the same category as, xx-stub))
- Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
- Upmerge (merge to parent stub type, typically by keeping the template but redirecting it to the parent stub category for potential re-splitting later)
- Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it either a larger or more precise scope. Usually also means renaming the category)
When expressing an opinion, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful".
[edit] Renaming options
- Rename/Support
- (for templates: move to new name, replace existing usages, delete redirect);
- (for categories: recreate category page under new name, repopulate, delete old category).
- Rename, keep redirect/Move (for templates only: move, but don't replace usages of existing template)
- Oppose (no move of template, and/or deletion and recreation of category)
- DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed.
- If you wish to argue for the deletion of a template or category nominated for renaming, please re-tag with {{sfd-t}}/{{sfd-c}}, and note the date of doing so, so as to ensure proper consideration of this new nomination.
If a template is speedily renamed, similarly re-tag the resultant redirect if deletion of that is desired.
[edit] Note to non-administrators
If a category and/or stub deletion is agreed upon and you're helping to change the stubs on those pages: Once you've emptied the category, please note the category on this page under the "To Delete" section that the stub category section is empty ("orphaned") and "ready to be deleted" to the administrators.
[edit] Listings
[edit] December 1
[edit] Cat:German Communist Party politician stubs/{{Germany-DKP-politician-stub}}
Empty category, apparently unproposed and unlinked. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; unproposed, unlinked, and not used on a single article. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 20:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Keep template but sort stubs to it and if necessary upmerge. Was proposed - but as part of a blanket nomination (see here. Grutness...wha? 23:28, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 14
[edit] {{Ossetia-geo-stub}}/Cat:Ossetia geography stubs, {{Ossetia-stub}}/Cat:Ossetia stubs
Two new unproposed stub types, each for a region which crosses currently accepted international borders and as such runs contrary to stubbing practice. The only uses that these new types have been put to is to add an extra template to articles already marked by the longstanding {{SouthOssetia-stub}}. While an existing geo-stub for South Ossetia might be useful, and equivalent stubs for North Ossetia probably wouldn't be dismissed out of hand if proposed properly, a general stub covering regions on both sides of a disputed international border can only be asking for the sort of trouble we don't need with stubs. Delete and, if necessary, propose replacements in the proper way. Grutness...wha? 01:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Delete and rename. I created these stubs for ossetia related articles. As for this case we can create geo stubs for both north and south. But what creating 'so culure stub' and 'no culture stub' look like? Ossetia is not a country but it is a region of the world whith specific culture, population, history etc. It is the encyclopedia topic. I have voted for deletion because as i learnt with help of Grutness that i had to propose them before creating. --Soslanx (talk) 08:56, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Best thing to do with items that relate to the entirety of Ossetia culturally would be to double-tag them with both a NorthOssetia-stub and a SouthOssetia-stub. That way they can still be grouped together, can still be found by anyone looking for stubs to expand on either region and are both ultimately listed in subcategories of categories for both Russia and Georgia. Similar sorts of things are done for other cultures which span national borders (e.g., Inuit culture with Nunavut-stub and Greenland-stub). If there's a specific Ossetia WikiProject (which I think there is), it can also use a talk-page assessment template to further link all articles relating to Ossetia, not just stubs. Grutness...wha? 23:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per all of the above. Ossetia is a region, culturally speaking (i.e. not a geopolitical entity), that crosses a disputed international border; I agree with Grutness's assessment that double-tagging with North- and South-Ossetia-stub templates would be preferable for articles covering both subjects. There is, in fact, an active Ossetia WikiProject that can tag articles (not just stubs) with the assessment template where appropriate. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 16:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Old business
[edit] October 28
[edit] {{Orissa-geo-stub}} / Cat:Orissa geography stubs
[edit] Cat:Observatory stubs
[edit] September 24
[edit] Cat:Anxiolytic stubs
Underpopulated (only 28 pages). Scan shows only a few more. Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Upmege until someone creates another 30 or so. Waacstats (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Upmerge Scope is too limited. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 03:09, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] September 1
[edit] {{PL-stub}} / {{Prog-lang-stub}}
Unproposed stub which defies the naming conventions for stub templates. PL could stand for any of dozens of things, of which Poland would seem the most likely by some distance. It is, however, for computer programming language. The template certainly seems useful enough, and its associated category (which also needs renaming from the plural to the singular as Cat:Programming language topic stubs) is full enough. Rename, but do not keep the current name as a redirect. Grutness...wha? 23:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've renamed it to {{Prog-lang-stub}}, which is probably sufficiently explicit give how the other stubs in Category:Computer science stub templates are named. You'll probably need to use a script to fix all uses if you delete the redirect though. No objection to renaming the category. Pcap ping 23:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I wish you'd read the note at the top of the page which says "DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed." Prog-lang-stub is an equally bad name, since this is a computing-based stub - not a linguistics one, and lang-stub types are all for linguistics stubs (also, prog could be progressive, computer program, television programme, or any of several other things). I've added the new name to the nomination - it should also be deleted and renamed once a rename to a more appropriate name has been discussed, and not before. Grutness...wha? 03:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- Rename to {{proglang-stub}}, and delete redirects. I believe that the claim that "prog" has other meanings is irrelevant, since none of them have anything called "language". However, "lang-stub" isn't a natural component, since a programming language isn't really a language. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- Rename to "prog-lang-stub". This name is quite natural to use and I don't find any of the names it could supposedly be confused for to be at all plausible. --Cybercobra (talk) 12:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Rename per Od Mishehu and Cybercobra. Sorry, Grutness, but I don't think those other uses of "prog" could be used plausibly with "lang" or "language." A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 03:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Computer language stubs
- The following - up to the dividing line - is from the listing at WP:CFD.
- Category:Computer language stubs - (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Since we don't have an article on "computer language" for almost a year now, I propose this category be deleted. The only reason I'm doing this busy work rater than redirecting {{compu-lang-stub}} to {{PL-stub}} is that an administrator thinks it is necessary and undid my redirect although he has no comment on content of my action, only the form thereof. Pcap ping 10:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete the category and Redirect the stub. "Computer language" = "Programming language", the two are synonyms, having parallel stub templates and categories is duplicative and unnecessary. --Cybercobra (talk) 11:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. Looks like uncontroversial maintenance to me. — Miym (talk) 11:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Comment I think the stub and category where originally named "computer language" so they could include languages which where not specifically designed for use as programming languages (e.g. PostScript, XML and friends). It might still be useful to use a somewhat more generic name for this reason, but may also be over-generification, as I suspect a vast majority of these stubs are indeed only related to programming concepts. —Ruud 11:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Close - and relist at WP:SFD. Otto4711 (talk) 12:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Merge into the Cat:Programming language topic stubs listed immediately above. Grutness...wha? 00:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Merge per Grutness. "Computer language" and "programming language" are one and the same. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 03:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] To orphan
Stub types in this section have been deemed deletable and have to be removed from all articles using them, so that they can be deleted.
[edit] To delete
Stub types in this section have been orphaned and can be deleted.
[edit] Listings to log
Stub types with completed discussions which have not yet been logged; remove from this page entirely when logged. Anyone can do this, not just an admin; please see the directions at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log.
