Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Thrindel
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.
User:B^U[edit]
- Suspected sock puppeteer
Thrindel (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · checkuser)
- Suspected sock puppets
- Thrindel (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · checkuser)
- Evidence
"Not surprisingly, sock puppet accounts usually show much greater familiarity with Wikipedia and its editing process than most newcomers. They are more likely to use edit summaries, immediately join in existing edit wars, or participate in procedures like Articles for deletion or Requests for adminship as part of their first few edits. They may edit on a selected article or a very narrow range of topics. They are also more likely to be brand new or a single purpose account when looking at their contributions summary"
This user is all of the above, and checking his contributions, they are solely for the editing of the article "Ctrl Alt Del (webcomic)". Upon reading the Talk Page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ctrl%2BAlt%2BDel ) the user also employs tactics such as "biting the newbies" to always ensure the article is edited by either him or an admin. There are several rumours that the account is used by the creator of the webcomic in question, but I've got no evidence to suggest he is (although it would make alot of sense). I'm not sure who the account could be sockpuppeted with, so I believe a IP check would be essential. The user has been particularly "pissy" about a criticism section being added (despite it being completely founded), and has at times let slip information that has not been known to the general public (again reinforcing the suggestion he is the author of the webcomic in question). The user has been continually editing the article for two years now, as well. --A Chain Of Flowers (talk) 22:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Comments
Several other users have been put off editing Wikipedia by this user as well (again, by simply looking through the talk pages and the archives), although I'm not sure if this will affect your decision.
Oh give it up. I don't even see how this ssp is even going to work since you don't have any actual suspected sock puppets. This seems more to me like yet another attempt to out another wikipedia editor with coi allegations that have yet to be actualy proven by any reliable source. Knowledgeum : Talk 22:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Still, you have to wonder what makes people believe it so strongly. Its almost like the IPs know something us established users don't. Zell65 (talk) 20:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
It should also be noted that Buckley has sockpuppeted to edit the CAD page before. Zell65 (talk) 20:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- For the purpose of this SSP I don't see how anon editors, who have not constructively added to wikipedia other than to harass, vandalize and spread rumors about one perticular editor on his user page, talk page, and pages of articles they have contributed on could even be considered in this as all the "evidence" is fabricated by thier own vandalism on wikipedia. It would be far more likely to have a SSP for all of thier IP accounts as they all seem to be fixating on the same goal of outing and defaming a wikipedia editor. You should provide your proof of your accusations that Thrindel is who you claim he is (your SPP claims he is Thrindel, so I guess you have proved yourself in that sense), and that the actions of Tim Buckley as a ssp (which isnt even covered in this case) actualy occured (which again isnt covered in this case). Otherwise you should keep your unfounded rumor-mill accusations against Thrindel to yourself and stop dragging him through the mud in an attempt to out him. Again, I don't even know how this ssp will work as it wasnt done correctly in the first place. Knowledgeum : Talk 21:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Zell65, the Thrindel acount is solely to edit the CAD article, and most importantly, to prevent a criticism section, or at least prune it and rename it as "reception". At least if we are to judge by is actions, the Thrindel acount is little more than a sockpuppet. Also, he is undeniably unhelpful and generally nasty to deal with unless you happen to agree with him. At the very least, the acount user needs to curb his attitude.86.46.208.159 (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
One interesting thing I noticed about the contribs by Thrindel. If you look, almost everything is removal of additions. Whether or not the additions were vandalism, Thrindel rarely seems to actually contribute new information.
On a side note, please stop insinuating that I have been slandering or spreading rumours about Thrindel. The only person I have talked to about a possible Thrindel/Buckley connection is A Chain Of Flowers. Everyone else has found other information elsewhere on the internet and decided for themselves. Zell65 (talk) 16:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Conclusions
CheckUser is not magic pixie dust, and the same applies to SSP. Unless you actually have an account you'd like us to compare things to, we have no way of magically pulling another account or IP address out of thin air. Please try, if possible, to assume good faith towards others - many users edit anonymously before getting an account and so may appear to be a sockpuppet when they're not. If there is a conduct or content issue here, I'd suggest seeking dispute resolution. SSP is only intended for when you think two or more known accounts are related, not when you feel someone's handling something inappropriately. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)