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October 29[edit]

Template:Firefox release compatibility only official[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Firefox release compatibility only official (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Substitute and delete: Has one transclusion only; can be safely substituted and deleted. Less burden for editors. Codename Lisa (talk) 23:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

  • merge and delete. Frietjes (talk) 21:44, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Translations of[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Translations of (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

This template seems to have been widely used in the past, but now only two instances remain: one on Upādāna, where it is redundant to Template:Infobox Chinese, and on Floating island (dessert), where the translations could be integrated into the article's prose. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

  • delete, will replace it in a moment, but feel free to revert if this closes as keep. Frietjes (talk) 21:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Starbox threeplanets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:12, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starbox threeplanets (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:21, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Starbox twoplanets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:12, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starbox twoplanets (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Mosques by country[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Mosques in Armenia (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Mosques in Gibraltar (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Mosques in Argentina (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Mosques in Venezuela (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Mosques in Benin (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Each has only one article and are thus useless.Thegreatelgrande (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Starbox reference 2s[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:11, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starbox reference 2s (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Starbox planet[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starbox planet (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Starbox base[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starbox base (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused, replaced by {{Starbox begin}}. eh bien mon prince (talk) 21:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Starcopepisodes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Starcopepisodes (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused. eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Phytomorphbox[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Phytomorphbox (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused infobox. The documentation says it's "under development" but it hasn't been edited in over 2 years. eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:03, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:FIRSinlinenation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:FIRSinlinenation (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused infobox. eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:56, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Nations of Asia table[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Nations of Asia table (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

unused. Frietjes (talk) 16:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Historical pop box[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:03, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Historical pop box (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

redundant to {{historical populations}}. I replaced it in about a dozen articles, so it is now unused (just replace the = with |). I can change these back if this closes as keep, but {{historical populations}} is far more flexible since it does not require adding predicting every possible year, and it supports multicolumn output. Frietjes (talk) 16:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:FortSmithCensusPop[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:FortSmithCensusPop (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

single use template which I merged with the article (Fort Smith, Arkansas). Frietjes (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Maps and Tables NY[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 08:18, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Maps and Tables NY (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

unused TOC template. Frietjes (talk) 15:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Lourdes Gray Wolves women's basketball season navbox[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Magioladitis (talk) 08:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Lourdes Gray Wolves women's basketball season navbox (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Non-notable NAIA women's basketball team whose season articles are redirects anyway. Useless navbox. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:36, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete per nomination, especially since the links are redirects. — X96lee15 (talk) 16:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom - this is a program that doesn't get much press and probably doesn't meet GNG. Rikster2 (talk) 17:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Template of redirects is not worthwhile.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Mex Census population[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Mex Census population (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:MXCensusPop (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Indonesia Census population (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

fork of template:US Census population, but the census links don't work since the articles don't exist. I replaced each with Template:Historical populations in about 10 articles total, so it is now unused. Frietjes (talk) 15:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:TBTA[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2013 November 9 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Illinois historical population[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:46, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Illinois historical population (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

replaced by template:historical populations and redundant to template:US Census population. Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. Fitnr (talk) 15:28, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Stella Vine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2013 November 9 Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 19:23, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:16, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

This doesn't come close to meeting the guideline criteria in WP:NAVBOX. It shouldn't even be a category, per WP:OVERCAT, let alone a navbox. This is the sort of thing that belongs in a list – List of scientists whose names are used as non SI units. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:47, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Keep. It goes with Template:Scientists whose names are used as SI units. It's not an unreasonable thing for a reader to want to navigate around easily. SpinningSpark 11:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
    • @Spinningspark: I am a proponent of navboxes, but not unnecessary or "clutterful" ones such as this. Navboxes are intended to provide easy access between a group of tightly-related articles, or articles on the same topic. That is the problem here: this navbox simply groups together some scientists who have had a certain thing (a unit of measurement) named after them. If you'll allow me to bring some CFD terminology over here, that is hardly a "defining characteristic" of these scientists.
    • I don't want to seem annoying, but I would be interested to know whether you think this template meets the general guidelines presented at WP:NAVBOX. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
      First of all, WP:NAVBOX says "Good templates generally follow some of these guidelines", it does not require that all of them are met.
      1. All articles within a template relate to a single, coherent subject. Units of measure are a coherent subject. Units named after scientists are a subset of this. Furthermore, most of them belong to previously widespread coherent sets of units.
      2. The subject of the template should be mentioned in every article. Every article mentions (or should meniton) that the scientist has a unit named after them.
      3. The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent. Yes, at least the ones that are in the CGS system of units will refer to the article on the CGS system.
      4. There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template. Yes, there is.
      Further, WP:NAVBOX says Navigation templates are particularly useful for a small, well-defined group of articles. This group of scientists is extremely small, not to say exclusive and it is certainly well-defined. Precisely defined in fact.
      But enough of the wikilawyering over guidelines, back to basics. Is this actually useful to an encyclopaedia reader? Well, I can think of two questions I have personally tried to answer in the past that this template quickly finds the information. One was how many scientists of great importance in electrical science used to have units named after them but no longer do? Maxwell imediately springs to mind, but there is also Gilbert. The other one was what electromagnetic units were named after well known scientists. The purpose of an encyclopaedia is to answer readers' questions. I am sure that if I have been asking these questions other have been too. SpinningSpark 16:15, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
      Thanks for the detailed response, I can see where you're coming from. But I stand by my view that the questions that can be answered by this navigation box are of an obscure nature, and the list suffices to answer them anyway. — This, that and the other (talk) 07:21, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep:I created this template noting that the contributions of some scientists were so great that the scientific community immortalized them by naming the physical units after them. They share the same honor and there is nothing wrong to show their names in a template. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 13:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep: per Spinningspark. Fitnr (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Keep – As Spinningspark noted "It goes with Template:Scientists whose names are used as SI units." —Omnipaedista (talk) 13:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
    • I can see that a lot of people want this kept, and normally I would be happy to accept that consensus is against me, but I really think some arguments here deserve refutation:
      • "It goes with Template:Scientists whose names are used as SI units." Had I known the other template existed, I would have included it in this deletion nomination! They should either both stay or both go. But, since I didn't bundle the nominations, this template should be considered on its own merits without arguments based on the existence of the other template. If this template is deleted, I would nominate the other one straight away with similar rationale.
      • "There is nothing wrong to show their names in a template"... Navboxes are very pragmatic items, serving for navigation among closely related articles. While these scientists are obviously quite famous and important, that by itself doesn't mean they need a navbox!
    • This, that and the other (talk) 07:21, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete - it sits at the bottom of a an article in a slightly out-of-place fashion. It would be better served, I think, by a list or category, as that is what it essentially is. Jamesx12345 13:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Youtube Download and Template:Download Youtube Video Using 3 Different Methods-Downloading Method[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Delete for multiple reasons:

AnomieBOT 18:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Template:Youtube Download (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)
Template:Download Youtube Video Using 3 Different Methods-Downloading Method (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Template with a massive list of unrelated redlinked articles, many without any connection at all to YouTube. None of the articles that include the template, which are up for deletion, are linked from the template. Looks a lot like SEO spam. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:56, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Added similar template per similar rationalle.—John Cline (talk) 06:54, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • By the way, I definitely think a speedy close is what should happen to this discussion and the templates: deleted.—John Cline (talk) 09:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Template:Download Youtube Video Using 3 Different Methods-Downloading Method speedily deleted. Not sure about the other one, I'm not very template-savvy, to be honest.--Shirt58 (talk) 10:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete. A completely pointless template. Apart from YouTube, none of the articles listed in the template exists, or has ever existed. Judging from the editing history of the editor who created the template, it may be that they were planned future spam articles, but whether that is so or not, there is no useful purpose served by the template. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Delete. and it should qualify for a Speedy since all of the articles in it have been deleted as spam. MarnetteD | Talk 14:36, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete Canterbury Tail talk 14:49, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
  • I don't know how to file the paperwork on this kind of deletion discussion, but I am going to delete this per SNOW and et cetera. Drmies (talk) 16:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Annex B of the British Nationality Act 1981[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Annex B of the British Nationality Act 1981 (edit|talk|history|links|logs|delete)

Unused template with unclear purpose. Appears to be a subset of {{British overseas territories}}. Fitnr (talk) 02:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete This template in no way adds understanding of the British Nationality Act 1981, and does not add to the pages it lists. CMD (talk) 21:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
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