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Space Cat

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Somehow survived an AFD ages ago. I can't find a single reliable source on it, however — 0 hits in Google Books. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete. Largely per nom as a discontinued strip that never got beyond at most a few college newspapers, and apparently never got collected in any fashion per nom.Tyrenon (talk) 20:03, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete - With something like this, there would need to be substantial coverage to establish notability; there is not in this case. ItsZippy (talkcontributions) 20:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete Can't find reliable sources. A cartoon having previously run in some newspapers doesn't automatically establish notability with reliable sourcing. Nwlaw63 (talk) 21:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable underground comic. SaveATreeEatAVegan 21:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
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  • Delete. There just aren't any sources out there that would be considered to be reliable secondary sources. Most of what I did find were articles that just mirrored this wiki entry.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:30, 7 February 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79
  • Comment: Advised active AFD admin User:CharlieEchoTango of possible closure per WP:SNOW. SaveATreeEatAVegan 23:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Southies

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A search for reliable, secondary sources reveals an insufficient amount of significant coverage. This failed television pilot fails Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Neelix (talk) 01:23, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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Gene Belcher

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Insufficient notability for this character. No third-party evidence given. Logical Cowboy (talk) 06:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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The article should stay! There are sources from sites, the official website has info, other websites that air the show like Global TV and FOUR, so it has sources.--TBrandley (talk) 18:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

See WP:RS. Self-published sources and other wikis are not reliable sources. Logical Cowboy (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

This character should have his own page to develop as the series progresses. Every other show on Fox's Sunday night animation domination has many individual character pages.--TBrandley (talk) 18:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

What about WP:Articles for deletion/Tina Belcher? Logical Cowboy (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Other characters have pages including Bob Belcher--TBrandley (talk) 22:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

--TBrandley (talk) 04:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

As noted above: "See WP:RS. Self-published sources and other wikis are not reliable sources." Most of these sources fail WP:RS. You should click on this link: WP:RS and read what it says there. Logical Cowboy (talk) 06:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep. Other characters have pages--TBrandley (talk) 04:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, you're not allowed to vote twice. Or three times. Logical Cowboy (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

List of Code Lyoko characters

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This article has no factual content whatsoever. Written entirely in-universe and has a citation to YouTube. The article is about a TV Show Code Lyoko, which has recently declined from its popular status. -Michaelzeng7 (talk - contribs) 20:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete as it's entirely in-universe and unsourced. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 22:56, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
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  • Keep Can be fixed through regular editing. Notable TV shows are normally entitled to a character list article like this. Jclemens (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
  • A currently running cartoon with 5 seasons and a long run on Cartoon Network? Definitely notable. I still think the character list needs to be killed with fire, as cartoons are generally less likely to muster up enough out-of-universe information to warrant a character sheet. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I also want to say that "regular editing" is something this article lacks. Also, If you look at it, the only factual information is information about the voice actor. Nothing else. Regular editing cannot fix this article because there is little to no known factual information. The only way would be to completely rewrite it with more information on hand, which is far from "regular editing." Character lists like this from notable tv shows are definitely considerable. But not all are notable. ---Michaelzeng7 (talk - contribs) 04:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bmusician 08:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep All notable shows have a side article to list their characters, and another to list their episodes. We need to stop having things like this go to AFD all the time, and instead just pass a guideline to accept or deny them all once and for all. Dream Focus 07:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Lesser Known British Comic Strips

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This article appears to embody the very antithesis of WP's notability requirements in that it actively seeks to list comic strips that are lesser known. This is besides the fact that it is a list and should be named as such. Rubiscous (talk) 01:21, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

An encyclopedia should be a collection of fact without the qualification of how important they are. The strip cartoons in this entry, although relatively lesser known today, were highly popular in their time and individually lasted for decades. Rather than have a group of stubs it is, in my opinion, better to collect them in a single article. The importance factor will be different for different individuals. How can any person or group take the right for deletion of an item that was highly accepted in its time. This becomes sencorship. The entry could, however, be combined with another relavant entry, but never deleted!

DonJay (talk) 02:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

  • The point is that "lesser known" is highly subjective. What constitutes "lesser known"? There's no way you can objectively define that term, putting it in direct violation of WP:NPOV. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 05:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. If the cartoons in this list were highly popular and notable in their time, then considering that notability is not temporary it is inappropriate to describe them collectively as 'lesser known'. The notability in its own right of each individual strip in the list is not in dispute right here and now, just whether the article should exist as a whole. You are correct about things being different for different individuals - the degree of how 'known' a comic strip was is completely arbitrary. Unless a notable list of 'lesser known british comic strips' exists off-project in a reliable source, or we have reliable sources for each individual strip describing each one as 'lesser known' then putting together a list in this manner is original research. To cut down on stubs by collecting together a list is fine, the above suggestion by Darkness Shines of List of British comic strips, or by publication for example List of Daily Mail comic strips would be more acceptable alternatives because the criteria for inclusion in such lists would not be subjective. Note that such lists would have to include all the more notable strips that fit the criteria which have their own articles, and that these strips should be given appropriate prominence, thus the current article would make a poor starting point compared with simply starting another list from scratch. Rubiscous (talk) 05:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

The proposal is for deletion, not modification. Consequently it should be rejected. The original entry was not a true list, but rather a collection of stubs, which it was hoped could be enlarged. A better title might have been "British Strip Cartoons of the Early 20th Century". It was my hope that, when each item had been enlarged, that a separate entry could be made, By collecting the stubs together it would be more obvious that additions to them was needed. There has been several edits of this nature. My objection has not been because of change, but rather of deletion due to the use of "Lesser Known" in the title. DonJay (talk) 15:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete "Lesser known" anything is problematic. If something is both notable and verifiable enough for a general-interest encyclopedia, in would generally not be "lesser-known" by definition. Looking at the article, I'd say neither of the first two entries are "lesser known": the first ran for 23 years and the second (apparently) almost 30. A better approach to the same material might be a (non-list) article on 20th century British newspaper comics or similar, but since fixing it would require a total rewrite up to and including the title, my vote is to delete. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

The majority of items in an encyclopedia are "lesser known" (in fact, unknown) to an individual. That is why they are there, to become "better known". Deletion is to destroy this possibility of becoming known. Unless the information is preserved within the encyclopedia, the information is likely to be lost. Consequently a deletion should not occur unless the content is elsewhere.

One reason that a collection of stub articles is attractive, is that a peson with knowledge on a subject can easily see where information is sparse, and can possibly add to it. This cannot be done with descrete entries, as it would be necessary to refer to a list and examine each independantly. DonJay (talk) 16:10, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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  • Delete - the material in this article is interesting, and I have no reason to believe it isn't true, but I agree that as it is it fails WP:OR (containing no sources) and WP:IINFO. 'Lesser known British comic strips' is simply never going to work as a topic of an article. However, a List of British comic strips, or an article on the History of British comic strips, would be acceptable, providing that they were properly sourced.

Robofish (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

  • The reasons given by Robofishtalk are not relevant . Sources (WP-OR) are given within the text as being the newspapers. These are available in many public libraries. WP-INFO does not apply as the entries are not indiscriminate, by any of the categories given in WP-INFO. In fact they are part of a set. Also the statement "never going to work as a topic of an article" can not be proven, and is unlikely to be true.

The opening sentence of WP-INFO is "Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia" . The definition of Encyclopedia (OXFORD) is "a work containing general information on all branches of knowledge". Rejection of this 'request for deletion' should be made. DonJay (talk) 14:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep and reanem, per DarknessShines. This is a good example of just where a list article can be useful. We don't have to show formal WP:Notability for each and every entry here, and it can defuse much of the trouble over just such an argument. Besides which, several of these are almost certainly notable anyway: Varoomshka was the infamous "Tits in the Grauniad" strip, Lord God Almighty was an early work by Steve Bell and both Sporting Sam and (the utterly ghastly) The Larks are noteworthy on the basis of their long-running.
If anyone is itching to delete British comic strips, then I suggest starting at the mess that is Category:Beano strips, where any number of unreferenced one-para and entirely trivial articles refuse to die, despite regular attempts. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep That something is lesser known does not make it unimportant, or even non-notable. WP should have appropriate coverage for subjects depending on their importance and the extent of sourcing available, and in many cases this will be less than a full article, if if the notability guidelines permit an article to be written, they do not require that there should be a separate article in all cases--we have the flexibility to do what is suitable to the specific topics. And if these are regarded as non-notable, the guidelines are all very specific that notable does not apply to the content within an article--logically , how could it, because then every event in a person;s life would need to be separately notable if it were to be mentioned at all. DGG ( talk ) 21:06, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - I've added two more sources to the article. It's a list article with a focused, discriminate criterion for its entries. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Katrina Stoneheart

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Unremarkable television cartoon character - no notability outside the series, and no significant coverage found for the individual character. Provided sources are not reliable. Tried redirecting to the main series article, but page creator kept reverting, so bringing this here for definitive resolution. MikeWazowski (talk) 23:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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  • delete per nom. "Unremarkable" sums it up best. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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