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January 24[edit]

Trying to Communicate with an IP... Looking for the right place to ask[edit]

An IP on one of the pages I edit has been coming close to edit warring with me over a sentence that they consider irrelevant to the topic but I believe is important to the topic. (It's a mention of a US release for a foreign film that qualified for several American awards due to the release.) I've tried asking them to talk it out on the talk page, but they've just kept on removing the sentence in question. Where do I go for help for something like this, especially since this person has been making reasonable edits on other pages? Luthien22 (talk) 02:40, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia:Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents? You can notify administrators there and they will take action. Also in the event of an edit war, see Administrator's Noticeboard/Edit warring. pcfan500talk|my contribs 02:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
(ec) This page is about how to use and edit Wikipedia, as stated at the top, so it's a good enough place to ask. The IP hasn't ediited Song of the Sea (2014 film) for about 46 hours, and their contribs show that they have edited several others since then. They may have moved on. In any case, I'd suggest a little light reading, starting perhaps with Wikipedia:Edit warring, and come back if it leaves you with other questions. ―Mandruss  02:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you! My concern is that this is the third time I've gone through this series of edits with this IP, and they don't seem to be willing to communicate. Although it hasn't actually escalated to an edit war according to WP:3RR, it's gotten frighteningly close, and I don't like counting the number of reverts I do on a page or checking time stamps. I think I might wait a bit before getting an admin involved, but if it does happen again, I now know where to go. Luthien22 (talk) 03:05, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Font change[edit]

Suddenly the font changed in Wikipedia (only), and I'm looking at large letters. How do I get it back to normal? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:06, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm. Have you tried restarting your browser? ―Mandruss  03:12, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
No change. This is happening in Firefox. If I try Chrome, it works fine. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:17, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Excellent, since I'm also a Firefoxer. Go to a page with the big letters and then click on the three horizontal bars in the upper right. What zoom percentage do you see? ―Mandruss  03:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
That does it. I was at 250%. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I think CTRL+0 fixes that in most browsers.--ukexpat (talk) 13:38, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Most, but not all: it doesn't work in IE 7 or IE 8. Having Windows XP, I can't test IE 9 or later. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Slow-motion edit war at Kelami[edit]

I'm involved in a slow-motion edit war with some IP editors who are repeatedly adding information about a World of Warcraft character to the article on an Azerbaijani town of the same name (Kelami). Is there anything I can do to deal with this issue, other than just continuing to revert the edits? —Granger (talk · contribs) 03:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Check out the "Trying to communicate..." thread, just above. It's not exactly the same situation, but it's close enough. ―Mandruss  03:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

User dropbox[edit]

I don't know if this question is appropriate here or not, but I was wondering where the drop box at the top right of the site, which had links to my talk page, watchlist, log out, etc, has gone? Did this happen to everyone? Or is it just me? - adamstom97 (talk) 05:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Adamstom.97: Is this the feature I remember seeing on the Beta features preferences tab? If so, it has indeed gone from there. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
It's not just you. Mine reverted back to the old way in the last day or two and I hadn't yet had time to investigate it. Dismas|(talk) 19:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
It must have been a Beta thing, I guess I just got so used to it that I forgot, and now it seems really weird without it. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Ditto, was so used to it that I just spent 10 minutes searching for the option to switch it on but can't find it. CaptRik (talk) 19:00, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The removal was eventually announced at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Compact Personal Toolbar beta removed. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Ugly-looking URL in reference - any way to make it look better[edit]

Hi all,

This about Dance in the City. The URL in question is[pidLi]=509&tx_commentaire_pi1[from]=841&cHash=8764d0ef62&S=1. It renders as [pidLi=509&tx_commentaire_pi1[from]=841&cHash=287e0fb5ef "Pierre Auguste Renoir: City Dance, Country Dance"].
Truncating it to just brings up a general page about the museum's "works in focus".

OK, so the URL contains [-s and ]-s which confuses the wiki-code. Is there any way around this?

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Shirt58: See Help:URL#Fixing links with unsupported characters. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! --Shirt58 (talk) 09:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Requested categories[edit]

Hi there, is there a special page to request categories? I had stumbled upon this request, and while such a category might be redundant to the Category:American non-fiction environmental writers, I'm wondering where to refer the new user to instead. Regards, Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 11:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article wizard/Category seems to be what you're looking for. Scarce2 (talk) 13:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 14:36, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Adding links to art website[edit]


I have made an Art website specialized on painting ( and I wish to include links to it in every artist biography that has a gallery on my website, like this one: Hans Memling at Best Of Painting ( I do not wish to spam Wikipedia, these links show a gallery of each artist's works and are therefore relevant to each artist biography. Please let me know how to be sure these links are not considered spam by wikipedia.

Best regards, Nuno Palmeirim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npalmeirim (talkcontribs) 12:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

If you can get your website to develop some importance in the art world or garner some significance online, it would be a welcomed addition. Using Wikipedia to help you do these things is by definition spam (relevant Wikipedia guideline). Also, what does your website provide that the links already found do not? For example, the Wikimedia Commons is linked on many different artists articles (e.g., commons:Category:Sandro Botticelli). What does your website offer that the Commons doesn't already? Scarce2 (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
My website provides the user with very good quality images of each artwork, some of these are found on Wikimedia Commons, some of these are not available on Wikmedia Commons. It is also a "best of" selection of images, the user can see in a glance the artists most valued works, for instance Claude Monet: In the case of the better known artists, such as this one, we also provide a free aplication for both iOS and Android: I want to contribute to a better understanding of the artist by the wikipedia user, and I hope these links may prove to be useful for everybody. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npalmeirim (talkcontribs) 14:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
The website also sells such photos. But commercial or not, please see WP:EL (especially WP:ELNO) for additional information about external links in Wikipedia articles. GermanJoe (talk) 15:31, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
What works featured on your site are not available on the Commons? How exactly are an artist's "most valued works" determined? The site simply appears to be a SmugMug gallery, which exists primarily (if not solely) to sell artwork. A good resource to link to from Wikipedia would be a database that provides details not found on Wikipedia (such as IMDb) that monetize in other ways (such as with advertising, as done by IMDb). You'll find the resources linked on Monet's article are institutions and non-profit sites; another link to a gallery seems redundant. Scarce2 (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
OK. It all seems very subjective. In Monet's case, I may agree with your point of view because there are already many links to galleries, but in lesser known artists there are usually very few links. In this example, I should point out that the 2nd link ( is broken, and the 4th link ( sells monet posters on I believe that my site has relevant content in context with the biographies, and I think that it might fit in WP:ELYES point 3. I really would like to contribute to these articles, but if you feel that the site's content is redundant, I will not add the links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npalmeirim (talkcontribs) 16:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I tested a download from your site for an upload to commons, but when I eventually looked at the meta-data I gave up with a deletion request. –Be..anyone (talk) 05:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

please update Anna Marie duff wiki[edit]

Anne Marie Duff is listed and the actress who plays Fiona Gallagher on Shameless. That is incorrect. Emmy Rossum plays Fiona on Shameless.2600:100D:B128:195:DCCC:5203:1A58:3595 (talk) 15:03, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I watched almost every episode of the first two series. The closing credits definitely say Anne-Marie Duff. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:26, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Shameless (U.S. TV series) is a remake of Shameless (UK TV series). I guess, that causes the confusion. The information in both country-specific versions seems to be correct on a quick glance. GermanJoe (talk) 15:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
The perfect error record on cast members seems to stand but we have a new reason for false reports. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Interesting Behavior[edit]

Hi Folks, this page history has some interesting behavior going on. I understand that the Help Page is more for queries than for general comments, but I wasn't quite sure where else to share this... so I figured here at least I could see what the Help Desk crowd had to say about this. In any case, one or more people have been making pairs of edits for 3 years on this page, always leaving the page intact after the second edit. Is there anything more to this then just someone amusing themselves? Noah 20:07, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I see you gave them a level 1 edit test warning. I added a level 2 since they do so much of it. Let's see where it goes; I suppose they could eventually be given a temp block if it continues, for waste of Wikipedia computer resources. ―Mandruss  20:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh now I noticed that they have used multiple IPs. In that case, I'm at a loss; doesn't seem practical to template all of them. More wisdom will be along shortly. ―Mandruss  20:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, most all of the edits are from the range which appears to be the Houston Community College System. Some maybe some bored teacher or IT person (a student likely wouldn't be there for three years, but you never know). In any case, pretty harmless as far as test/disruptive edits go. Mostly I was just impressed at the length of time the person had kept it up. Noah 20:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm, maybe some instructor is teaching intro to Wikipedia editing and never heard of a sandbox? I'm not well-versed enough in the technical aspects to know whether that would produce these results; i.e., wouldn't all the computers in the classroom go through one cable modem and therefore one IP address? ―Mandruss  20:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I think the range is too wide for an IP range block. ―Mandruss  21:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
How about an edit filter on the article? - X201 (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

PDF creation on iPad[edit]

As a longtime user, I am used to downloading PDFs of articles for offline reading. I just got an iPad, and when I search and get an article, I get only the article, no tools. (I can't find any "view" or "window" or other button that opens "tools"). How can I download the article (to save/read in iBooks) as a PDF on my iPad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctowngary (talkcontribs) 22:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

There may be a better way but one way to do this is 1) scroll down on the Wikipedia page (in Safari on your iPad), 2) select "Desktop" intead of mobile, 3) then click the standard Download PDF link in the left-hand menu. I just tried this and was able to download a page as a PDF into iBooks. Noah 22:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Ongoing vandalism by Da13rlene An3dre2ws1[edit]

On going vandalism by Da13rlene An3dre2ws1 -- Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 23:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Indeffed by Edgar181. Vandalism reports go to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. ―Mandruss  23:06, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much. The vandal was vandalizing at such a rate (1 article per minute), and I couldn't remember where to report it properly so I used the first place I found. :-) Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
@Darrell Greenwood: Yeah, you could bookmark that, or just memorize "AIV", as in WP:AIV. ―Mandruss  00:00, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@Darrell Greenwood: You're welcome. Please stop modifying other editors' markup, you're messing up my signature. ―Mandruss  00:11, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
It was unintentional, my apologies. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
@Darrell Greenwood: Sorry, I should have explained better. You have some sort of automatic spell-checking going on in your browser, and it keeps changing the CSS property color: to colour: in my signature, every time you edit this thread. Since colour: is not a supported CSS property (at least on this site), that changes the appearance of my signature. If you don't find a way to turn off this spell-checking, you're going to have a lot of people mad at you. Basically, most of those who use the color: property in their signatures, in talk threads that you edit. ―Mandruss  01:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
If you need help with turning that off, start a thread at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. ―Mandruss  01:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. You were right, I didn't comprehend the problem. I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 01:39, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

January 25[edit]

Biased Decision[edit]

I've used Wikipedia on and off for years but will no longer be doing so. Your decision in the Gamergate controversy and choosing to silence women's voices and ignore women's concerns and issues that are a central part of GamerGate (sorry, but the ethics in journalism cover was bullshit, and anyone with half a brain can see that) has made it clear that Wikipedia can not be trusted to give a complete and open account of events and issues.

As I noted above, I've used Wikipedia for years, but have always wondered if that was wise, even when footnotes became required. This decision has answered that question and made my decision of whether or not to continue using and supporting it an any easy choice: No.

2602:30A:2C1D:910:89D4:8F89:EAAD:F2E9 (talk) 01:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry you're unhappy with Wikipedia. But this is the Help Desk, which, as stated at the top of the page, is for questions about how to use and edit Wikipedia. We give some leeway on that, but I'm not sure that goes as far as parting shots at the project. I'm not certain enough to do it myself, but I wouldn't object if someone more experienced elected to remove this thread. Best of luck to you. ―Mandruss  01:17, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The page is covered by Arbcom general sanctions, another 5 editors were blocked/banned last week. - X201 (talk) 10:18, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Delete/remove or correct inaccurate pages[edit]

How do we remove inaccurate pages there's no such thing as Debolt, Nebraska and id like to remove the page and there's a page on Facebook that's generated by Wikipedia says its a city in Alberta Canada but the location on the Facebook page is showing in Omaha Nebraska making our posts show inaccurate location that it's posted or fix it cause it shouldn't be showing in Omaha Nebraska or remove any pages generated by Wikipedia that's on Facebook you need to do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous72530 (talkcontribs) 04:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

USGS shows there is such a place Feature Detail Report for: Debolt Mlpearc (open channel) 04:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
And Wikipedia has many small articles about places that are too small to appear in online mapping tools such as Google Maps, or even no longer exist. So it's inaccurate to say that the page is inaccurate. The geo coordinates given on the page are correct per the above-linked GNIS page, pointing to the area that is now North Omaha. There is a Debolt, Alberta, there is also a Wikipedia article about it, and that article's coordinates are also correct. It appears that Facebook is confusing the two articles or something, and Wikipedia has no control over what Facebook does with the information in its articles. ―Mandruss  05:05, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
The Facebook page you linked is for Debolt, Nebraska, not Debolt, Alberta. It says Location Nebraska at the top. Therefore it would logically have a map showing the location of Debolt, Nebraska, not Debolt, Alberta. Under "Places in Debolt" on that page is a link to "Debolt, Ab" - along with places that are in the Omaha area. Apparently that entry should not be there, and again we have no control over Facebook content. ―Mandruss  05:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Fair Partisans?[edit]

Now, I've been editing Wikipedia for a long time, but I've always wondered this:

What is Wikipedia's stance on partisans?

I've read WP:REP in the past, but I've always wondered what the general community thinks of this.

(Note that the partisans that I speak of are the ones that follow the rules for the most part, but do still obfuscate information that they find unfavourable from their own edits.)

If a partisan were to edit Wikipedia within the general rules, but yet obfuscate some information or otherwise "shadow" an article, and then in the long term the information that they added ended up being reworked by future editors so that the page turned out quite well balanced, could the presence of such a person truly be seen as a problem? If the partisan added legitimate information, and then the pages were later improved upon by others to add the information that they had left out, then wouldn't "the (first-version-writing) partisan" just be another step in the life of the general creation and improvement of an article? Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

My take is that you're outside the scope of Help Desk, which is pretty much just for how-to type things. I would suggest Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, or perhaps one of the other noticeboards listed at Wikipedia:Noticeboards. ―Mandruss  05:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Can people with a point-of-view edit wikipedia? Yes, definitely. Is it helpful if people pointedly break the neutral point of view guidelines? Not really. If you really want to contribute but you feel that you are so partisan that it will get in the way of creating a balanced article, then one thing you can to is suggest changes on the Talk page for an article and see what the group of contributors thinks of those suggestions. Noah 07:17, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Automation Techniques Incorporated, Tulsa, Oklahoma[edit]

I used to work at Automation Techniques Incorporated in 1982 while attending Spartan School Of Aeronautics. I believe the factory was off Pine street just down the street from Spartan School of Aeronautics. Automation Techniques Inc. manufactured C band television receivers which came with large dish shaped antennas that were usually 8 feet wide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm unable to tell what you are asking, or asking for. In any case, Wikipedia content is not created from people's personal knowledge posted at the Help Desk. Have a read at Wikipedia:Introduction. ―Mandruss  07:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The Netaji[edit]

who was the Netaji? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:52, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Possibly Subhas Chandra Bose. Incidentally, the opening paragraph of that article is a mess – more of a mess than I feel competent to fix. Maproom (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Mess now fixed by NeilN's edit. Maproom (talk) 14:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Problem with uploading information[edit]

Good evening!

I'm a new wikipedia's author and right now I write description about my University - [Gubkin Russian State University of Oil and Gas].

Till filling content I met some problems with adding images to university's pages. Every image (usually I download scan from photos and illustrations from books, which was printed more than 10 years ago and they haven't any licenses or I can give some accesses from University, because it's his decision to add information about scientists and history of university and oil and gas technologies).

Can you ask me how must I download images of this type to comlete ,y work without problems? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Чекмарёв Сергей (talkcontribs) 15:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

As someone with a close connection to the subject of the article, please be aware of an follow the conflict of interest guidelines. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Здравствуйте, Сергей. Unless there is an explicit statement that the picture has been placed in the public domain, or licensed under a licence such WP:CC-BY-SA, a picture from a ten-year old book will be in copyright, and may not be used in English Wikipedia. (The rules may be different in ru.wikipedia, I don't know). If the University owns the copyright, then it could choose to license the pictures, but it is not enough for them to give permission to use them on Wikipedia, they must follow the procedure to license them appropriately (which will allow anybody to use them for any purpose): see donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 19:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Сергей specifically with regards to your question about images, the rules are extremely tight and strict for good reason, to avoid legal issues with copyright. If you don't know the owner of the pictures and can't find a license then almost certainly it cannot be used on wikipedia. See WP:IUP for much more detail about this. CaptRik (talk) 19:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

unable to upload logo in the Rani Durgavati Vishwavidyalaya, Jabalpur[edit]

As a part of Rani Durgavati University, Jabalpur, M.P. India, I wish to change logo with correct one but unable to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akgjbp18 (talkcontribs) 17:17, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

You can request help here: WP:FFU. Mlpearc (open channel) 17:38, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Add a new Page[edit]

How do you add a new page to Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Mirrored Picture from unknown Uploader[edit]

I did not find any other location for posting this remark:

The user Gianaricci, who had uploaded the Image Diana, seems not to be registered in Wikimedia any more.

I think, the picture has been mirrored before being uploaded (or the Brooklyn Museum had offered a mirrored image).

Tilman Kluge 20:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC) (Tilman Kluge) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tilman Kluge (talkcontribs)

Hello, Tilman Kluge. I'm afraid I'm not clear what you're saying. User:Gianaricci's home page says that they were an intern at the Brooklyn Museum, and then at the Guggenheim Museum. They don't seem to have edited since June 2014, that's true. But File:S03_06_01_020_image_2536.jpg says "This image was uploaded as a donation by the Brooklyn Museum, and is considered to have no known copyright restrictions by the institutions of the Brooklyn Museum.", so I don't know what you think is a problem. --ColinFine (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I think the issue is that the image has been mirrored - flipped left to right. This is apparent if you look at the label on the pedestal: the name of the sculptor (Jean Goujon) can be read if you look at the image after flipping it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Creating User talk:Chbtech[edit]

When I attempt to leave a Welcome message on a new user page, there is suddenly no WP:Twinkle choice on Creating User talk:Chbtech. Are welcome Twinkles gone?--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

You have "Creating" in the link. Try User talk:Chbtech. --  Gadget850 talk 22:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Adam Palmer[edit]

In Adam Palmer we have this situation: the BLP was created two years ago by Adamppalmer14 (t c), presumably the subject. A new user, Adamppalmer (t c) now turns up and blanks the page with the edit summary "Unnecessary Bio, deleted entry". Bentogoa tagged the article with G7, but then reverted himself as the blanking editor is not identical to the creating editor. Adamppalmer has blanked again with the edit summary "This is my own bio. I dont think this contributes to Wikipedia and better to remove it. I am not famous or noteworthy. I have tried to delete the page." What's sensible to do here? Believe that Adamppalmer is the subject and the article creator and delete it under G7? Or send it to AfD as a WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE? -- Sam Sing! 23:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Regardless if the real Adam Palmer created the article I don't believe he can unilaterly ask for the article to be deleted (I'm assuming for arguments sake that the new Adam Palmer wiki account is also the real Adam Palmer). Now, if he can get consensus that he is indeed not a notable person then I'm certain he could probably get the article deleted on those grounds. Certainly an odd aspect of Wikipedia... you can't hide once you put yourself out there. Lastly, we do not know if the new account is telling the truth. FWIW, I have attempted to contact Adam Palmer on LinkedIn to see if we can establish if the new account his is or if it is just a troll trying to get the account article deleted. Noah 04:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Noah Salzman. I'm sending this to AfD unless other editors have other opinions. -- Sam Sing! 08:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I did indeed reach Mr. Palmer on LinkedIn and exchanged correspondance. He is the owner of both accounts mentioned above. I suggested to him that he let the Articles for Deletion process run its course. Noah 16:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

January 26[edit]

Citations for Maps and other images[edit]

Citations are given (and promoted) in Wikipedia for text information, but I do not see citations for maps and other visual information. Shouldn't visual information also be evidenced (i.e. relevant and verifiable), and so wouldn't it be good to promote for maps and images to be cited? Rwilkin (talk) 00:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to a specific example? ―Mandruss  01:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
{{cite map}} has 17883 transclusion and {{cite AV media}} has 12802 transclusions. --  Gadget850 talk 01:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Table help[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians. I'm not too slick with tables. The tables at Histeria! look like they could use some sweetening to make the columns and rows look pretty. Anyone up for the challenge? Thanks in advance, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi. The heading row and column widths for Season 2 are different from those for Season 1. Aside from that, the only challenge I see is finding room for improvement there. What specific changes did you have in mind? ―Mandruss  02:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi @Mandruss: I think you resolved the matter just fine. Thank you for the assist! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb: Not a problem, enjoyed it. Assuming you know more about the show than I do, please see my new talk thread. ―Mandruss  20:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ono-i-Lau[edit]

Reference help requested. Sorry, not sure of what to do - how to correct it. Perhaps delete it?Roddankl (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC) Thanks, Roddankl (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the error was corrected by BG19bot the day after ReferenceBot put that message on your talk page. See the page history. You don't need to do anything. You can leave the message on your talk page, or remove it whenever you like. ―Mandruss  04:15, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

How to use citations for referencing multiple pages, from the same book, in different places on the article page.[edit]

I am currently editing Ibn Taymiyyah. I am using a book which I need to cite in different places. On the page it is reference 9. I have then tried to use the "sfn" template to use the same source to cite different pages of the book as applicable to different sections of the article. I have tried to make it work but it will not. The sfn template is simply cited in the references section again at number 18 on the article page. Please could someone help. Mbcap (talk) 03:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I made a change, is that an improvement? It dropped a page number (VII) from the second ref, but there's a solution to that if you need it. ―Mandruss  04:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Re-reading your comment, I decided you probably need said solution, so I made that change too. The page number VII is shown as superscript following the citation number. If you wish, you can insert "p." before the "VII" in the {{rp}}. I think it looks fine without a space, in this case :p.VII. ―Mandruss  04:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Mbcap, Mandruss: The article did not have any {{rp}} previously, and a number of people dislike this template (partly because the page number appears in the text and not with the other refs), so it's not a good idea to add it to an article which already uses a different method of achieving an equivalent result. I notice that it was already using {{sfn}} elsewhere, so you should try to do it the same way. Remove the <ref name=":0" />{{rp|VII}} and replace it with {{sfn|Haque|1982|p=VII}}. Make sure that you don't put that inside any <ref>...</ref> tags, because it generates a pair for itself. More information at Shortened footnotes. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Done. Back to separate reflist entries, which is what the OP said they did not want. ―Mandruss  11:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank you for the help. Is there any possible way to have the sfn citations in a separate citations section on the page whilst keeping the anchor citation (full reference to book) in the reference section. I got the feeling this is possible but I was unable to do it. Mbcap (talk) 16:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Have you read Shortened footnotes? --  Gadget850 talk 17:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@Mbcap: I take it that you have something like this in mind. Here, the {{sfn}} citations are picked up by a normal {{reflist}}, and the full references are in a separate bulleted list, with no <ref>...</ref> or equivalent. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes that is perfect. Thank you. How do I do this? Mbcap (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
If the other editors of the page agree, create a new section called "References" (or "Works cited"). Rename the present "References" section to "Notes". Put all the cite templates in the new "References" section, in alphabetical order. Make sure each cite template has the parameter "ref=harv" included. For each case where a cite template is moved from the body of the article to the "References" section, put a sfn template where it used to be. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:43, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Editing Religion portal[edit]

I think Paganism Theism and Deism should be listed together with Atheism - Creationism - Mythology - Nontheism - Occult - Spirituality. That's the first line of the religious section, after the list of WP portals.

I don't know how to make this change. deisenbe (talk) 04:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

As portals are high visibility, I'd suggest seeking consensus for the change, at Portal talk:Religion. If consensus is reached, I'm sure someone there would be happy to do the edit. ―Mandruss  04:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
This part of Portal:Religion is defined at {{Religion portals browsebar}}, so perhaps Template talk:Religion portals browsebar would be the place for the discussion. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Map country Unasur[edit]

Hello, there has been some consensus on Wikipedia for maps of the country of South America are displayed in their respective pages in dark green and light green the Unasur. It has been modifying the map balloon all countries in South America and placing others where it is emphasized to UNASUR on Wikipedia in Spanish and English. Which were created by User:Spesh531 [1]. In English wikipedia have placed these maps, for example

In the discussion commons user Spesh531 speak to replace all these new maps in several languages including Spanish: Thank Spesh you for your help I have updated all South American country clubs With Your maps on the Inglés wikipedia @ Mondolkiri1:.. you can update the Spanish and Portuguese versions wikipedia With Spesh's maps if you wish-Viladive (Talk) 23:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC) " '

What was the consensus of the community to make this change?--Roboting (talk) 05:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Keep in mind I did not implement it, I only created it. It is up to the other users who placed the respective images on their respective pages to deal with how this is going. As for me, I do not care how this decision is played out.—SPESH531Other 05:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
You must restore the site of South America countries, as I did with Colombia. Ask a librarian to take action on the matter. There is no consensus for such modification.--Roboting (talk) 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
This is the Help Desk, which is for questions about how to use and edit Wikipedia. It is not for resolving content disputes. Please see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. ―Mandruss  05:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no dispute here User:Mandruss. Ask a Bibliotecary to restore the edition before the modification, Which the maps of the User:Spesh531 , not consensus. Which is an arbitrary edition.--Roboting (talk) 05:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Restore the edition before the modification in : Argentina , Brazil , Peru , Uruguay , Venezuela , Ecuador , Bolivia , etc.--Roboting (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
When I see "there is no consensus for such modification", I call it a content dispute. It is about content, and it would appear that you disagree with the other editor, which is a dispute. I don't know the best place for this discussion, but I know it's not Help Desk. I don't know what a "librarian" is at Wikipedia, I have never seen that term used here. And "restore the edition" sounds like a revert, which any editor can do (subject to policy and guidelines of course). ―Mandruss  06:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Is Bibliotecary, not librarian sorry, in Spanish or in English Wikipedia:Administrators--Roboting (talk) 06:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I have restored the edits made by User: Viladive. Your edits are vandalism. Therefore an administrator must take care, as there is no consensus to place these maps.--Roboting (talk) 06:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
This is the English language Wikipedia, so I'd suggest that we go with the English word, administrator. Does that sound reasonable? Help Desk is not the place to request administrator action, that would probably be Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. You are welcome to make a request there, but I think they will tell you that it is not the correct place to resolve content disputes. I still don't know what administrator action you think you require. As I said earlier, my suggestion is to read and follow the information at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. It is time to end this thread. Good luck. ―Mandruss  06:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Help on Downloading/Saving entire wiki pages in a PDF or other user friendly fashion for offline use.[edit]

Hello. I am here inquiring whether it is possible to, short of using a third-party source (unless no other means are found), to save an entire community wiki page, such as those like:


Into a PDF or other offline accessible format without having to spend hours or even days saving every single page separately using word documents. This is not an issue of saving favorite or useful pages; I want ALL the pages. I found in Wikipedia-the free encyclopedia that you already have a book creator for pdf's on your pages but the link necessary for me to do that is not found on these links. Please respond. Your help is much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nehowshgen (talkcontribs) 06:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Those wikis are nothing to do with Wikipedia. You'll have to ask the people that operate them to add the PDF features to their wiki. MediaWiki are the people who make the wiki software, but the people who run the your wikis will need to add the feature. - X201 (talk) 10:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Why are the date pages protected?[edit]

I've noticed that all the 'date' pages such as January 1, March 8, November 27 and July 19 are protected to pending changes (white lock) why is this? Thank you for your help. (talk) 06:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

In the case of January 1, user:Wizardman set up pending changes with the comment: "(Configured pending changes settings for January 1: Frequent subtle vandalism (adding own names as birthday events)", with this edit: A quick look at the edit history seems to support that. Rwessel (talk) 06:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Rwessel is correct. Lots of silly stuff is added to each day article as the date comes up. PC helps to ensure readers don't see most of this stuff. --NeilN talk to me 06:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Fukurou House Dubai[edit]

Good day

We would like to create a page with our newly opened Restaurant/Art Gallery in Dubai. Could you please help us to do it, as i couldnt find any option to do it myself :).

Our website

Thank you

Armen — Preceding unsigned comment added by FukurouHouse (talkcontribs) 08:43, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

In order for the restaurant to be considered notable for a Wikipedia page, it needs to be the subject of news articles written by third party reliable sources. APK whisper in my ear 08:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello, FukurouHouse. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. It is not a business directory, marketing tool, or social media, and it may never be used for promoting any business, organisation or cause. Once several indepedent reliable sources (such as major newspapers) have written substantial articles about your restaurant, then somebody - preferably not you - could create an article about it based entirely on what these independent sources have written. Until then, I'm afraid there is no place for your business in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


I see all kinds of articles which use DEFAULTSORT to ensure that the article is alphabetized by the first word of the article's title. Maelgwn Gwynedd, for example, uses DEFAULTSORT to make sure that it gets alphabetized under M rather than G. Well fine, it should indeed be under M rather than G, but that would have happened without using DEFAULTSORT at all, wouldn't it? Was there any point in using it? Should it be removed? --Antiquary (talk) 11:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

In your example it was a correction [2] of a bot which "Added DEFAULTSORT to page (used a WikiProject banner's listas parameter on the talk page".[3] People are usually not sorted by the first word. Placing an explicit DEFAULTSORT on the exact title has no immediate effect but it reduces the risk that a bot or editor makes an inappropriate sorting later. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:12, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Now I see. Well, I'll leave the things alone then. Thanks for that. --Antiquary (talk) 12:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Sometimes you see articles (not about people) that have a {{DEFAULTSORT:}} where the sortkey is simply a variant capitalisation of the article name; for example, an article named "List of things" might have {{DEFAULTSORT:List Of Things}}. This is a legacy of a time (prior to MediaWiki 1.17) when category sorting was case-sensitive, and it had been standard practice to add a DEFAULTSORT: to all articles with more than one word in their names. Varying the capitalisation in this manner has not been necessary for about four years now. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Naming of Portuguese sports competition article[edit]

There is this English Wikipedia article on a Portuguese sports competition, whose title is in its native language. The sport is very specific and localized to certain countries (mostly Latin-European and Latin-American countries), so there is not much media converage (or any at all) in English language sources. Should the article title remain in its native language or should it be translated to English? Thanks in advance. Parutakupiu (talk) 14:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I would have thought it probably sits in the same category as such articles as Serie A, where even English speakers would refer to it in its native language so that would be the article title. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I would think so too. In fact, Wikipedia seems to point in that direction. I just wanted to get some extra feedback on this. Parutakupiu (talk) 15:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia part of Anti-Womens rights movement[edit]

I Donated over 100$ to Wikipedia in my life and would like it back based on how you are treating women editors. Not letting women edit pages that deal with women's rights is sexist and horrible. You will not get away with this and it makes me disgusted with your organization. Stop giving GamerGate access to your organization. You will never receive donations from my family or friends again. Please refer to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

The article you link to is misinformed as to the facts. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Right. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. See wmf:Frequently asked questions#What is your refund policy? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
If you want to, you can read the decision-in-progress here. Origamite 20:32, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Random within group of pages[edit]

Is it possible to have a variant of Special:Random that only searches within a specific group of pages? For example, from a category it would pick a random member, or from a list of links it would pick a random link. I know that Special:Random doesn't do this; I'm looking for another way to achieve this result. Nyttend (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Special:RandomInCategory does what it says, eg Special:RandomInCategory/Houses will take you to a random page within Category:Houses. I don't know of any neat way to pick a random link from a list of links, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
It's also available as a template, {{Random page in category}}, which you can see in action at Category:Stub-Class physics articles. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Very nice; thanks to both of you. I've never even heard of this category or this template before. Nyttend (talk) 21:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Film poster policy[edit]

I wanted to update Fifty Shades of Grey's film poster, but I am not sure if the images policy applies to film posters as well. Are there any policies for film posters? Callmemirela (talk) 18:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Film posters are copyrighted and can only be uploaded and used pursuant to the non-free content criteria.--ukexpat (talk) 20:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

User Friendly?[edit]

I've? been enjoyhing Wikepedia for years, and this is the first place I go generally to obtain information I'm looking for on most subjects

I've been using computers from the first simple ones, so I feel I'm somewhat familiar to navigatge the internet - and I tried to add an item a cople of months ago for a movie that was missing from Olivia de Havilland - and last night I was curious about the actress who portrayed the maid in Shindler's List - her name, and name of role, and what happened to her near the end of the movie. I gave up trying to edit?

Seems Wikepedia is not user friendly, and everywhere yhou go you get more pages of information rather than just a simple 1,2,3 how to edit I managed recently to get through filling out forms for the Veteran's Administration although 8 of l0 VA People gave me wrong info and wrong forms over a month for forty hours..I managed to figure out myself to do the internet and manual forms part. I go into Wikepedia more for relaxation but there seems to be so much unnecessary information and not the simple how to 1,2,3. I get the sense that the site tries to discourage people who might not have the valid information or sincereity to improve the site - but from what I've seen on the internet...Wikepedia is really lacking in making life more simple unless you are just reading the information. Bob Paley — Preceding unsigned comment added by BOBPALEY (talkcontribs) 20:11, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Just as the article content is maintained by a community of unpaid, part-time volunteers, so is the help information. Very few of us are highly skilled in that area., and there is not very much site-wide coordination on that. The inevitable result is that Wikipedia's help is not very well organized and easy to navigate and understand. Things might be very different if that area were controlled by a group of paid specialists, but that would be both contrary to Wikipedia philosophy and culture (controlled) and financially unworkable for a non-profit (paid). I can assure you that it's not done deliberately, for the reason you suggested or any other. On the positive side, there are always people around to help you with things you don't understand, including right here at the Help Desk. Many times you can get an excellent answer to a question within a few minutes of asking it. - how many for-profit companies can you say that about, where you have paid hard-earned cash for their product? Not many, in my experience.Mandruss  21:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC) (Struck as not particularly meaningful from an editing perspective) ―Mandruss  22:42, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
@BOBPALEY: I looked at Special:Contributions/BOBPALEY. [4] shows you refer to an Olivia de Havilland film allegedly called "Lady of the Knight". Wikipedia articles require good published sources. A trading card alone is not suitable for this and I would never add a film based on it. Google searches like "Lady of the Knight" "Olivia de Havilland" finds no hint of such a film. It's extremely unlikely an American film with a star would have no result at all in Google. I dug deeper and found the trading card you mention.[5] It was probably an early promotional card for a film which wasn't made or changed title. More digging revealed The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex#Production which says: "However, the new title, The Knight and the Lady, upset Davis". I assume Lady of the Knight was another considered title which wasn't used. The film ended up as The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex and is already listed in Olivia de Havilland#Filmography. It's from November 1939 by Warner Brothers so it's a good match to the card. Apart from giving a wrong film, your edits misformatted the table. Table editing can be difficult. Look for a pattern in the existing table entries or a similar table, or see Help:Table (which is admittedly complicated). If you made recent edit attempts then they were not saved so I cannot see what was wrong with them, but this help desk would be a great place to ask if you did save them. If you don't want to damage an article with a misformatted edit then you could use the "Sandbox" link at the top of any page, or copy a limited amount of code here. We definitely don't want it to be hard to edit. A lot of effort has gone into Wikipedia:VisualEditor but that feature still has serious problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

January 27[edit]

Referencing errors on George Selden (author)[edit]

Reference help requested. How do I fix the reference for The Guardian online. I had the date, and the article had choices of memorable books by several well-known authors. The one I cited from that article (on George Selden) was from Edmund White, who chose "The Story of Harold." The article discussed it.

I should add that George Selden--actually George Thompson--was a friend and neighbor of mine. I'd also read "The Story of Harold" and had the opportunity to discuss it with him.

Thanks, Carlianschwartz (talk) 02:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello @Carlianschwartz:, fixed it for you. The section had 2 "ref" tags immediately after each other, the second one was misplaced (too early, before the first ref was finished). See WP:Referencing for beginners for more information on Wikipedia references. GermanJoe (talk) 02:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Dead Rising: Watchtower (The Film)[edit]

I manage the music composer (Oleksa Lozowchuck) who is currently scoring the Dead Rising: Watchtower film This can be verified at

Music by Steve Jablonsky is not correct. Please change it to Music by Oleksa Lozowchuck.

Thank you, Keith C Anderson — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, I changed it. (I don't have a reliable source either way for who composed the music, but the source I do have (unreliable as it is) is IMDb and they say Lozowchuck.) Herostratus (talk) 11:32, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Bio for ElizaBeth Gilligan[edit]

[Re: Elizabeth Gilligan] ―Mandruss  09:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

As the subject of this article, I would like to note that the webpage of that name in the title and first section, my name is "misspelled." My legal name (and, therefore, used) is "ElizaBeth Gilligan." That capitalize B in the middle of the ElizaBeth is not only accurate but legal. I am not Elizabeth Gilligan, who is using all of my credits, etc. Could someone take care of this? This means something to me financially, so I would appreciate your attention to this little b problem.

Thanks! ElizaBeth Gilligan — Preceding unsigned comment added by LaceG (talkcontribs) 08:07, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

It seems to me that this request is justified. There is a redirect from ElizaBeth Gilligan to Elizabeth Gilligan, justified in the redirect page by reference to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization). But that policy page has the very clear proviso "unless the title is a proper noun". Ms Gilligan's forename is spelled with an upper-case B in most (not all) of the independent sources I have looked at. I would rename the article and make the redirect go the other way; but I know from experience that making such changes "over a redirect" is difficult/impossible without admin powers. (I am puzzled by the "using all of my credits" statement, but renaming the article seems correct anyway.) Maproom (talk) 09:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
The B is also uppercase in three of the references already in the article. I requested a technical move. If this violates policy somehow, I assume the request will be rejected. ―Mandruss  09:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Agree that it seems justified and should be done. Question: I did this minor edit: [6] but it doesn´t show in the article, is that "forbidden" by the code somehow? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Fixed it here. You had changed the wrong B. What gets displayed is second. The parameter that is passed to the template is the first one. Dismas|(talk) 11:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
The id change was good too, since it determines the heading on the target page without any change to the remainder of the page. Fixed. ―Mandruss  11:07, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Duh and thanks, Dismas! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
To the original poster. For some things involving requests by the subject of the article, Wikipedia would require verification of identity (To make sure that that the posting isn't by say Anne McCaffery pretending to be you.) But for this, given that 3 of the 4 references (and a good number of the other entries that come up in google) use the upper case B, I don't think this is one of them. It is in the process at this minute of being taken care of, normally the change could be done by any user, but there is a special part of this that requires an administrator to delete the redirect from ElizaBeth Gilligan before we can move the page there. After the page is moved to a new place, any editor can go in and change the rest of the article to reflect the Capital B.Naraht (talk) 14:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't think the OP's wishes and opinions are really that relevant here. So it doesn't matter whether the posting was made by ElizaBeth Gilligan, Anne McCaffery, or Kim Jong-il; verification is not necessary. Whoever it was has drawn our attention to the incorrect title of an article, and this should be corrected. Mandruss has taken the first step towards achieving this, I hope the rest will follow soon. Maproom (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Maproom is correct. Even if the OP could prove they are ElizaBeth beyond doubt, that wouldn't count for anything, and that's why I omitted any mention of this thread in the tech move request. ―Mandruss  23:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

References not showing up[edit]

Some of the citations in User:William Harris/sandbox are refusing to show up in the reflist, it's a referencing method I'm not really familiar with so I have not been able to find the gremlin. Please help. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

|refs=, not |references=. Fixed. ―Mandruss  12:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

2015 Deaths - Lee Spick[edit]

Someone needs to edit the Deaths 2015 page.

For January 26, 2015 there is a listing for Lee Spick, a former snooker player who died of liver cancer. On the Deaths page it reads as follows: "Lee Spick, 34, English snooker player, swallowed a snooker stick.[4]". Listing a cause of death as "swallowed a snooker stick" is highly inappropriate and needs to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Deaths in 2015 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I have undone the bad edit and warned the vandal. Thank you for drawing attention to this. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Editorial policy[edit]

What the heck is this?

This is utterly ridiculous. Please stop making yourselves look foolish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:54, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Please see #Wikipedia part of Anti-Womens rights movement, above. ―Mandruss  12:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Can I have my name removed from a page from 7 years ago.[edit]

Hello, secen years ago my name was posted in a talk page. Is there any way to have it removed? Searching google brings people to that page. Rhank you. BF — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:B:9980:3AC:C189:467E:AE8E:3D21 (talk) 14:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Which page? --Jayron32 15:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't answer Jayron's question. Go to WP:OVERSIGHT and follow the contact details there. - X201 (talk) 23:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:OVERSIGHT would be the best choice in some situations but so far we don't have indication that the situation is within Wikipedia:Oversight#Policy, or that anything more is needed than to edit out the name from the current version. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Stratton St Margaret[edit]

Hello this article is wrong someone has added this

Current status

Stratton hosted the final of the 2012 Olympic games football tournament on the astro at Ruskin Junior School. 150,000 people saw Team GB beat Brazil 37-0, making it the best attended Olympic event in history

This isn't correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Stratton St Margaret (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I have undone the edit which added that text. Unfortunately the rest of the section has no references at all, so it is hard to tell whether anything in the section is true. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

What page should I go to?[edit]

What is the best page that I should go to, if a content dispute cannot be resolved on an article's Talk Page? I placed an "Admin Help" tag on the article Talk Page, and some editor accused me of being disruptive. In a nutshell, this is the issue. The Tom Brady article makes no mention whatsoever about the DeflateGate controversy. I have added material that is well sourced (CNN, for example) and worded neutrally. And editors on that page (and its Talk Page) keep deleting it. The article has absolutely no mention of this incident (about which, clearly, there are tons of reliable sources reporting). And, in fact, Tom Brady himself held a press conference about this very topic. Needless to say, the article (and its Talk Page) are mostly attended to by Brady fans. I feel that it is indisputable that this "huge" topic should merit some mention on the Tom Brady page. To not mention it at all smacks of POV. Violates neutrality. And leaves a glaring omission. And, in a nutshell, fans of Brady want to white-wash the article of any mention whatsoever of the topic. So, where should I be going with this question? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. I believe that's the place to start for understanding how to handle content disputes. Can't testify to that from personal experience, since I've yet to need it (I've always been able to reach a resolution in article talk, let someone more experienced handle the DR process, or just given up on the issue). ―Mandruss  21:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Creating a new Wikipedia page[edit]

How does one go about creating a Wikipedia page for a topic not yet covered? Does it involve 1) finding a gap 2)being sure the topic is "encyclopedic" in nature 3)creating the page via sandbox 4) submitting the finished sandbox-page for consideration for publication by an editorial board? Thanks! John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathetes5150 (talkcontribs) 19:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

"Yes" to Items 1, 2, and 3 in your list. "No" to Item 4. There is no editorial board. After the article is "good enough", you can simply post it. Others will try to delete it, if necessary. Or others will add to it and help edit and improve the article. A suggestion that relates to your Item Number 4: before posting your (proposed) article, you can ask a more experienced editor or an Administrator to look it over and give you some feedback, suggestions, etc. So, that is an "informal" version of your Item Number 4, which does not "formally" exist on its own. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
You may also want to read this page: Wikipedia:Your first article. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
@Mathetes5150: You could avoid some pitfalls by reading or using WP:YFA, WP:AFC or WP:WIZ. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


I'd like to create the following new page

but I need a disambiguation page to distinguish Ann Goldstein, editor and translator, from an existing page for Ann Goldstein, curator and museum director

How do I create a disambiguation page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artatra (talkcontribs) 21:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you,

Artatra (talk) 20:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

If you know her middle name, you can entitle your new article as "Ann Middle-Name Goldstein". Or, you can entitle it something like "Ann Goldstein (author)". Either of these alternatives will distinguish your new article from the current article named, simply, "Ann Goldstein". Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Firstly, unfortunately your first link is not an article in the main area of the encyclopedia, it's a draft of an article in your own personal userspace. Therefore I've added a template to it to indicate this. The box now appearing at the top of it explains things further. If it's accepted into the main encyclopaedia, then take a look at WP:DAB for how to disambiguate articles from one another. Regards, CaptRik (talk) 21:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Batch validating links[edit]

Hi all,

Is anyone aware of a way to batch-check Wikipedia links to see if the article exists? I have a long (500+ entries) list of autogenerated links that I need to prune, and I'd like to avoid manually checking each to see if the article exists already. Apologies if this isn't the appropriate place to ask this question. (talk) 22:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Is there any way you could wrap the double-brackets around them and stick the result in your sandbox? If so, you could just look for redlinks. ―Mandruss  22:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Genius! Will do. Thank you! (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
@ That's assuming you have an account, as without it you don't have a sandbox. Sounds like you do. ―Mandruss  22:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Everybody has a sandbox, here it is, whether logged in or not. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I assumed the OP would want something that would stick around until they were through with it. I suppose they could refer to an old revision of the public sandbox, now that you mention it. ―Mandruss  23:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


How do I report an IP who has been vandalising my userpage for some days? I have issued a first warning (level 3), and if it continues I will issue a final warning (level 4). Is AN/I the next stage? ~ P-123 (talk) 23:21, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

No, for simple vandalism it's WP:AIV. ―Mandruss  23:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Mandruss. ~ P-123 (talk) 23:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)