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April 22[edit]

changing media in existing article[edit]

I'm editing an article about my late husband, saxophonist Art Pepper. The photo originally supplied to the article is not very good. I'd like to replace it with a better one. Is there a way to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mslaurie (talkcontribs) 00:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

If you own the copyright to the image, you can Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and make it so that Wikipedia and the world can use the image. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Edits to the user talk page of a blocked account[edit]

I notice that User talk:Contribsx has been edited subsequent to the blocking of the User:Contribsx account. It appears that anyone can edit this user page and user talk page. This is an important issue, because it is has been alleged that this account is a sock-puppet for a prominent politician, Grant Shapps. This issue has gained traction in the UK general election, with substantial media coverage. This user page and talk page may be accessed by those investigating the story. These pages should be protected immediately, and any edits made after the account block should be reverted. Is this the correct place to raise this issue? Verbcatcher (talk) 00:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

The User talk:Contribsx page is directly linked from this Guardian article. Verbcatcher (talk) 01:00, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Default sort message[edit]

Dear editors: This article Joseph Brent has the correct persondata, but there is a message complaining about the default sort. How can I get rid of this? Is this another one of those problems caused by using sandboxes to create articles?—Anne Delong (talk) 01:30, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

The error message said: Warning: Default sort key "Brent, Joseph" overrides earlier default sort key "Mackeown, Erin". It was caused by having both {{DEFAULTSORT:Mackeown, Erin}} and {{DEFAULTSORT:Brent, Joseph}} in the article. I have removed the first. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, PrimeHunter. I looked for that; not sure why I missed it.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:45, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Deleting a previous version of a photo?[edit]

(reposted from question placed on my user talk page)

Hello - I'm hoping that you can help me with this. I uploaded a photo to File:Linden Tree and Gravestones, Woodlawn Cemetery, Bronx, NY - September 16, 2012.jpg. It looked too bright, so I tried to replace it with a better (slightly darker) version. That worked, but the original photo is still showing up in the file history. I looked for instructions on how to delete the original, but the only instructions I found said to request a deletion of the entire file (both the original and the good photo) and upload another photo under a different file name. Is there any way to get rid of just the original (in this case the brighter one) and leave the better one (slightly darker)? Or do I really need to upload the better photo under a different file name and submit a request to have the existing page/file deleted? Thanks in advance for any advice/assistance. --Msact (talk) 00:16, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

We do have the technical ability to delete (or really hide from the eyes on non-admins) the earlier version. But as a matter of policy, unless there is a reason it needs to be, I'd think we would prefer to keep both the original and the corrected version. If you really want it deleted, we could probably just do it under CSD:G7, which I guess is your right to request, but again, I don't see any reason you should want it deleted. Monty845 01:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I would agree with Monty - although it is possible to "hide" it from the history, there is no real reason to do so - there is no harm in seeing the previous version, and no reason that I can think of to hide it. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Is he a primary source? (session II)[edit]

In my opinion, the former U.N observer is not a primary source for : "as part of its strategy to annex more land". (see the talk page discussion). The observer had no personal knowledge concerning the Israeli policy, hence he is not a primary source for these words, according to the rule of Primary source : "Information for which the writer has no personal knowledge is not primary". Is that correct?

Please note this is the second posting of this question, since it was not referred to. Ykantor (talk) 11:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

He's quoted as expert (3rd party.) "Primary source" on Wikipedia is something in the direction of self-published, e.g., a blog (or actually any web pages) of a company, press releases, etc. Interviews by and with uninvolved 3rd parties aren't primary sources. The content can of course still be nonsense and/or not notable. but that's another question. –Be..anyone (talk) 13:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


How does an account get "attached" to another wikimedia project? If I click on my own contributions and then at the bottom of the page click on "accounts", it brings up a table. In the leftmost colum, it displays the name of the project. In the next column to the right, it shows a date/time. The heading of that column is "Attached on". What causes my account to be attached?--Bbb23 (talk) 12:24, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

See Unified login (m:Help:Unified login), read the "What it is" section and the penny will drop on what the dates relate to. - X201 (talk) 13:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I even looked at that page but obviously not carefully enough. Just a visit will suffice; that explains it.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Linking or citing a Wikipedia written in another langage ...[edit]

Dear sirs: Could you provide guidelines or a URL to how to link to or cite a Wikipedia article written in another langage when editing an English Wikipedia entry ?

Thank you --Neuralia (talk) 12:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

You can't. "Do not use articles from Wikipedia as sources." see WP:CIRC - X201 (talk) 13:12, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
As X201 says, you should not cite one. But you can link to one, maybe on a talk page, like this fr:Vin by using the code [[:fr:Vin]]. Maproom (talk) 15:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Reiterating what's been said above, it's not wise, nor is it appropriate, to link to Wikipedia as a source. Ironically enough, we don't consider Wikipedia to be a reliable source. Reliable sources are external primary, secondary, or tertiary sources outside of Wikipedia which pass verifiability. If there is content on another language's wiki which is not available on the English wiki, I recommend seeing if you (or someone else) can translate the information and include it into the English Wikipedia article. Likewise for other language wikis, they can translate information from the English wiki and bring it over. The external sources from other language articles, as well as external sources in other languages, can be used as citations, though this is usually not recommended and only as a last resort when no English reliable sources are available. ―Nøkkenbuer (talkcontribs) 15:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
You may be referring to the list on the left hand side of interlanguage links. If there is a Wikipedia article in another language that is missing from that list of links you can add it by clicking the little thing that says "edit links" which will take you to Wikidata and enable you to add interlanguage links there. Here's more information and instructions.
On the other hand, you may be asking about translating a foreign language Wikipedia article into English. If that is done, attribution is required. See instructions at Wikipedia:Translation#How to translate. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Users on reddit talking about organizing a brigade on wikipedia for people opposed to gamergate[edit]

Make sure to watch the wiki pages of these people for malicious editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:28, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you kindly link to a similar list of those people who are in favour of Gamergate? {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 13:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Macros in AMS-LaTeX using Wikipedia[edit]

Does AMS-LaTeX allow me to create my own macros(definitions), this way I could create some new symbols to use in my text on a Wikipedia Page.Such symbols are not in the LaTeX package but can be created through combining several symbols within macros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lijimathew (talkcontribs) 20:44, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Lijimathew: I can't help with LaTeX, but you might find what you are looking for at Help:Displaying a formula or Wikipedia:LaTeX symbols. If anyone else knows more, feel free to add.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Wikipedia's <math> processing is not really run through the LaTeX software, but instead goes through one of several programs (depending on your math rendering preferences) that can recognize much but not all of LaTeX's standard mathematical markup commands. So trying to define macros will expose the fact that it's not really LaTeX underneath. If you want to combine different symbols within a mathematics formula, you'll have to write it out explicitly (manually expanding your macro) every time, I think. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

URGENT - I need to delete my account for Legal reasons[edit]

How do I do that? I've searched everywhere. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohwoworigamiowl (talkcontribs) 21:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Ohwoworigamiowl: It is not possible to delete an account, but you may find what you are looking for at Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. I hope that helps.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Since the above post appears to be their only edit, I strongly suspect the OP is just trolling. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:09, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
If Vanishing would not achieve your goal, about the only thing we can tell you is to contact the Wikimedia Foundation Legal Department Legal contacts are in the box on the right. While it seems unlikely you will get much traction, its really the only chance, as there is nothing more we are technically capable of doing with local permissions. Monty845 22:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
But dealing with a pretty obvious troll would be a waste of Legal's time. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:28, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
A troll is a troll :P Mlpearc (open channel) 03:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I assumed that the person logged in under a second account so as not to bring attention to their real one. If I were in such a situation, I might do that.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Bob Kuczewski[edit]


This entry on wikipedia is slanderous and an attack against a person of true good character. Please see that it removed. Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. If you see vandalism like that, you can fix it too. Thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:24, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
However, fixing it does not mean replacing it with your own comments. See WP:NOBAN. I have reverted your edit. ―Mandruss  22:31, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

April 23[edit]

Editing Templates[edit]

I am trying to correct the links on the templates for the Insane Clown Posse and their various projects. For some reason, no matter how many times I edit them, the names Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope still redirect to their real names, Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler. How can I make sure these edits actually work? Thank you.

-- JIK1975

  • @JIK1975: Seems like your edit to {{Insane Clown Posse}} worked for me. You may be seeing a cached version from before your edit. Try the instructions at WP:PURGE, if its still not working we can look for a less obvious cause. Monty845 01:10, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
  • @JIK1975:I just purged both Template:Insane Clown Posse and Insane Clown Posse, that fixed it for me. It may be necessary to purge the other pages using this template. I've never quite understood the time purges were required, though. Sometimes a second edit forces things though, again I don't know why, but it appears not to have done it here. Rwessel (talk) 01:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
On the other hand, why worry about it? After all, WP:NOTBROKEN. Dismas|(talk) 01:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
WP:NOTBROKEN says: "It is usually preferable not to use redirected links in navigational templates". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
My mistake. Thanks for pointing that out. Dismas|(talk) 02:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Sandbox template[edit]

How do I preview a template that I'm working on in my sandbox? Plasmic Physics (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Actually you add it to your common.js page, as per the instructions at User:Jackmcbarn/advancedtemplatesandbox.js.


how to use wikiversity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadak Hassan (talkcontribs) 03:13, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikiversity is not part of Wikipedia. It is a separate project of the Wikimedia Foundation. See --David Biddulph (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
A shortcut for getting to Wikiversity is [[wikiversity:]] or simply [[v:]]. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Julian Hanshaw[edit]


I hope someone might be able to help? I have created a page for 'Julian Hanshaw' a UK graphic novelist. It however is still being flagged as an not having at least one 'reliable source' although I have included links to Wikipedia pages and external sources. As you can tell I'm new to this and don't wish to make an obvious, beginners error!

Thank you in advance.

Salted squid (talk) 09:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Citations should be to sources which are reliable (not blogs, not Wikipedia itself) and independent (not sites selling the subject's own books). I have removed the unacceptable citations from the article. There are two left, which I have reformatted into something closer to Wikipedia's preferred style. This may be enough to establish that Hanshaw is notable enough for a Wikipedia article – but at least one more would help. Maproom (talk) 09:39, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've added one – the Huffington Post is apparently considered reliable. Maproom (talk) 09:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@Maproom: Was there some debate somewhere as to the reliableness of HP? Dismas|(talk) 13:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Not that I know of. From what I've seen of it, I wouldn't trust it. That's all. Maproom (talk) 16:33, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Sool (disambiguation)[edit]

Back on the 20th, I moved the article Sool to Sool, Somalia in order to properly disambiguate it, having spotted a couple of mislinks to Sool that should have gone to Sool, Switzerland. I modified all the articles linking directly to Sool directly that I could find, together with the several templates that linked it. Than sat back and waited for the batch job to kick in, and move all the articles that indirectly linked to Sool via the templates. But four days later, this hasn't happened, and as a consequence Sool (disambiguation) has appeared in Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links/The Daily Disambig/Recently added with 209 links.

Now I'm sure that amongst those 209 are one or two direct links that I missed first time around, and which I would expect to pick up once the batch job has sorted the wood from the trees. But most of them make no direct reference to Sool, so there doesn't seem to be anything I can do to correct the situation. Have I missed something somewhere that I need to do?. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 10:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Chris j wood: It looks to me like you've done everything right. Usually template links take a little while (minutes to days) to filter through, but three days is a long time. Even though it is showing up on the list as a problem, it's not actually a problem for any reader since you've fixed all the links. I had it take over a week once, but only once. I'd suggest letting it sit for a few more days and if there's no change, we can ask what's going on at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Of course if you are more anxious feel free to ask now.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  14:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Missing photo and infobox[edit]

Re: Elizabeth Gage

I followed the Bot's instructions re copyright tagging but the photo is still missing, so is the infobox, I am a little new to this, can anyone help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andwella (talkcontribs) 10:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Andwella: Apparently your image was deleted after you added the tagging, which indicates that an image patroller decided your tagging was incorrect or the image did not meet requirements for upload. Without knowing more about your specific situation, such as the details of the image, I can only suggest that you read more of Wikipedia:Image use policy or seek assistance at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Good luck! ―Mandruss  11:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I can see the infobox, but a number of the parameter names which you have tried to use do not exist in that template and hence are not displayed, see {{Infobox person}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Why is the Mathematics Reference Desk not allowing editing by IP contributors?[edit]

Why is the Mathematics Reference Desk not allowing editing by IP contributors? Other more popular Reference Desks, such as Science and Computing, are not similarly locked? -- (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm aware of the ongoing vandalism problem at the refdesks, and I assume that persistent vandalism was occurring only at RDMA at that time, so there was no reason to semiprotect any other desk. ―Mandruss  12:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Others were protected for limited periods, but that one seems to have had the semi-protection applied indefinitely, so I've asked the protecting admin. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Was an oversight. Now fixed. --Jayron32 13:26, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

How do I report vandalism when the links have been vandalized?[edit]

It looks like someone has been redirecting people from their desired destination when they click on some of the external links on this page:

Students for a Free Tibet

Also problems are occuring on your vandalism report link and the volunteer link as well. (talk) 13:58, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out those problems. WP:ELN and WP:RSPAM are available for problems in that area, especially when you detect patterns of multiple problems. Of course you can also remove obvious EL violations yourself (with a short explanation in the edit summary). I have removed several links in this article.
@ Could you provide a link to "vandalism report link" and "volunteer link" please and specify the problem? GermanJoe (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2015 (UTC)



I am developing a Wikipedia page for a company. My Wikipedia account is more than four days old, and I have made more than 10 edits, but I remain NOT autoconfirmed.

I would like to upload the company's logo. Can someone please assist?

Kind regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuyStevens (talkcontribs) 17:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You can request that it be uploaded for you at WP:FFU. Mlpearc (open channel) 17:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

::Just so you know, the 10 edits have to be on articles, they don't include your own user space or sandboxes. Looking at your contributions, you have 0 edits to articles, which is why you're not autoconfirmed. So the easiest way is to do as suggested above. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:39, 23 April 2015 (UTC) Apparently this was wrong (see below), so ignore this. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Seems that you are autoconfirmed I don't think it matters where the edits are, as long as you have the 10 required. Mlpearc (open channel) 17:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
It would help me if GuyStevens explained if he is creating this article as a favor (to say a relative that works there) or if he is working in a professional capacity and requires reliable detailed advice; as for PR people - time is money and Wikipedia can takes a lot of time to become familiar with. Can he come back with more backround info?--Aspro (talk) 18:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Looking at the draft, I would guess the latter.--ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Let us not make presumptions. It could save this new editor (and us) a lot of work in the long run if we know where he is coming from. Then we can provided focused guidance instead of a lot of Wiki-Waffle I.E. Wikipedia:Don't overwhelm the newbies ;-) --Aspro (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Aspro, that's why I asked my question below, so we can know exactly know, rather than get into a huge mess later. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes I know Joseph2302 (and thanks). That is why I posted my comment after ukexpat's alone and not yours. User:GuyStevens states something on his page. His first attempt on WP may be coming from something he knows most about and he thinks is important. So let us leave the COI and other policies till we know – then we can focus. Let us now wait for a clarification.--Aspro (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@GuyStevens:, please could you confirm whether you are creating this article as a favour (to say a relative that works there) or if you are working in a professional capacity (e.g. you work for this company or someone is paying you specifically to create this article)? Joseph2302 (talk) 18:35, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
@Joseph2302:,@Aspro:,@Ukexpat:. Hi, again. As I wrote on my User:GuyStevens page (, I have been employed by the company for several years. On the company's behalf, I am trying to create a neutral, fact-based page in Wikipedia, so any help will be appreciated. GuyStevens (talk) 09:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
You need to be careful editing about a subject that you are closely connected with - it can be hard to stay neutral, as there is a clear conflict of interest. Without knowing details about the company specifically, I can't give specifics, but let's just imagine that there was some bad publicity about the company in reliable sources. The neutral outcome would be that this information is in the article. However, you would probably be in trouble with you company if you allowed it to stay in the article, and you would be 'in trouble' with Wikipedia if you try to remove sourced information. Either way, you as an employee and as an editor will lose out! It's why we generally suggest that in your situation you do not edit the article yourself. One way round this is for you to make suggestions on the article's talk page about what you think could/should be added (along with suitable reliable - i.e. non-company/PR - sources) and let the editors working on the page discuss it and add what is required to make it neutral. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:41, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Grammatical vandalism?[edit]

Do we have such a thing as grammatical vandalism here? An anonymous user keeps making edits such as this one, changing phrases like "it is" to "it's", which to my mind seem to be incorrect for an encyclopedia. Surely we only use such phrases when adding a direct quote. I have asked the user not to do it, but without success. Should such edits be treated as vandalism, or am I over thinking this? This is Paul (talk) 22:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

First point the user to MOS:CONTRACTION so they can see it isn't just your own opinion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
ok, thanks. This is Paul (talk) 22:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I agree with PrimeHunter, though I wouldn't classify it as vandalism outright. It may simply ignorance, so always assume good faith, which includes assuming no clue. If it persists, though, and the user refuses to listen, then I'd consider it disruptive editing and not vandalism. ―Nøkkenbuer (talkcontribs) 22:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I think the best thing to do is assume good faith, but send a message explaining why Wiki prefers it is (linking to MOS:CONTRACTIONS). I do a similar thing with people who (accidentally) change British spellings to American spellings (or vice versa). Joseph2302 (talk) 22:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
As other editors have noted, making an incorrect good-faith edit is not vandalism. Continuing to make edits in violation of guidelines after being advised may be disruptive editing, but one should have good faith that an editor is willing to listen to advice. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Concur with Robert Mc. Actually, concur with everybody. :D ―Mandruss  02:27, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, guys. It's been happening intermittently for about a year, but I'm guessing it's the same editor because the changes always occur on the same articles. In any case, I've directed them to the appropriate text so hopefully there will be no more similar edits, although I do wonder. This is Paul (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

April 24[edit]

Referencing errors on Societies at Colgate University[edit]

Reference help requested. Hi! I made that edit on the Societies at Colgate University by mistake- could you undo it? Sorry. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

A ref tag was malformed, causing a cite error. The content was also out-of-date and incorrect re Sigma Chi. I have corrected both problems. ―Mandruss  02:52, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talkpage on iPad?[edit]

I was going to leave a message on an article's talk page, but I can't find it. The help section says to click on the "talk" tab at the top of the page, but that's not there on any page I've looked at. I thought that perhaps the help pages were running behind the changes to the structure of the pages, so I tried every icon I could see and didn't find it. I'm using an ipad, but that shouldn't be an issue. How do I get to the talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lriley47 (talkcontribs)

I moved your question down to today's actual posts and added a header to separate it from other posts.
But I'll leave your question for a mobile-user to answer (PC-user here). GermanJoe (talk) 02:30, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
It depends on whether you are seeing the desktop version of the site or the mobile version. If your iPad is showing you the mobile version, you won't be able to reach the talk page. In order to switch to the desktop version, go to the bottom of any page and there will be a link to the desktop version. The talk page link should then appear at the top where it's supposed to be. So, for instance, on this Help Desk page there will be two links at the top of the page that say "Project Page" and "Talk". Note: In some skins, "Talk" is actually labeled "Discussion". You can change which skin Wikipedia is shown with in your preferences. Dismas|(talk) 02:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
@Lriley47: In the mobile version you may be able to reach the talk page by manually inserting Talk: or talk: in the url before the page name, for example changing to I don't know why the talk link was completely removed from mobile. I could understand it it had been placed in a menu to save space. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

non zero code: 1[edit]

Good morning/afternoon I am trying to download a book I have created on Nikola Tesla. As the PDF is being generated it is interrupted by the error message "non zero .code: 1" - and the process stops. Other PDF's I have created have been created successfully.  ? is there an answer as to what I can do to rectify this - Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quinnedy (talkcontribs) 05:58, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, the PDF generation has a long standing bug that hasn't been fixed yet. - X201 (talk) 09:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

A note for others: I've prodded Phab that this is still a problem and is reported fairly regularly here, have also linked the latest problem article mentioned in this thread - X201 (talk) 09:15, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Deep Throat[edit]

Yes Hello. I was assistant production assistant on Deep Throat. My dad was the one who produced it Lou Perry.Son of Lou Perry Producer. Peter J Renko aka Lou Perry Jr aka Louis Periano am an actor and a big band Jazz swing drummer.I tryed to edit it but it dose not stay on the Page.
Thank You Lou Perry Jr — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Your contribution to Deep Throat (film) was removed by another editor, who wrote "If you have a valid contribution, use complete sentences and provide references." Maproom (talk) 10:39, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Links to section headers[edit]

About a month ago, a new feature appeared in Wikipedia. Alongside each section header, there was some symbol that, when clicked on, provided a link to that section. Once I had figured out what it was, I found it really useful. But now it has gone. Have I accidentally disabled it somehow? Or has it been removed (and if so, why)? Can I get it back by changing a setting somewhere? Maproom (talk) 10:32, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

The feature was unpopular at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 135#Link to this section snake and phab:T18691 shows it was removed. You can just click the section in the table of contents instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:41, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]

Chennai and Sullurpeta — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:54, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, part of a reference in Sricity had been deleted. - X201 (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
With the result being some odd and possibly incorrect language, which I will leave to you. "Nearly 30 suburban trains operate between Sullurpeta and Chennai and Sullurpeta every day passing via Sri City (Tada & Arambakkam)." ―Mandruss  11:32, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Section link from the infobox[edit]

Resolved: Mandruss  13:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Shooting of Michael Brown

Note the infobox field, Litigation Wrongful death lawsuit pending. Then note the article section, Wrongful death lawsuit, which provides details about the lawsuit.

It would seem useful to make the infobox field value a link to the section, as: Litigation Wrongful death lawsuit pending. Is there a guideline or other community consensus that would preclude that? ―Mandruss  12:06, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Mandruss, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Purpose of an infobox. You should not add a link to the article itself. The table of contents serves that purpose. All the best, Taketa (talk) 12:57, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Sad but true. Thank you. ―Mandruss  13:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Pawan Kumar Bharti[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:53, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

This is a help desk, not a place to put an article draft. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:54, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Indeed, but for a clueless editor it looks quite good, should it be converted into a draft? –Be..anyone (talk) 13:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
@Be..anyone: It's probably good enough for a draft, however it could well be a WP:COI or autobiography, since the person's current employer matches the IP address. I guess that isn't a reason to not put it to draft though. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Done, because I never tested this namespace. It could be also a copyvio. –Be..anyone (talk) 13:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
yes it's copyrighted, I've put it up for CSD. Also, removed the text from above. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
So far for testing the draft namespace: The copyvio check bot doesn't protect the help desk.Face-smile.svgBe..anyone (talk) 13:55, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

false information[edit]

Re: Stephen Khan

someone has updated my husbands bio falsely. They have done this 2-3 times adding the same false information. How can this be stopped Stephen Khan is NOT a devout Muslim — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:48, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

@ I have removed the unsourced statement and will watch the article for awhile. If reliable sources are provided for the statement, it will become a question of whether the religion is relevant to the article. That question would need to be discussed and resolved on the article's talk page. ―Mandruss  14:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
I've also sent the user that added it a Welcome/don't add unsourced content message/warning. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Partner parameter[edit]

This is a Fairyspit sock. Any dicussions can be removed or hatted as needed as they've now been blocked.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 15:48, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia as a source[edit]

Could and/or should Wikipedia be used as a source for any projects or papers that my son may have in high school? Is Wikipedia considered a reliable source? If so, how would he cite the page, in writing - just use the page's URL? Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilboo1199 (talkcontribs) 16:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

That is a question that needs to be answered by your son's teacher because it will depend on circumstances. If you would like to know more about the reliability of Wikipedia in general, you may find these pages helpful: Reliability of Wikipedia and Wikipedia:General disclaimer. To learn more about how to cite Wikipedia, you can read this page: Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Deli nk (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Gord Wilson[edit]

This page is linked to the Ontario Federation of Labour, past president, Gord Wilson. They are different people. I know this because Gord Wilson is my father. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I removed the link from within Ontario Federation of Labour to Gord Wilson, because, as you say, they do not appear to be the same person. Deli nk (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

help with Robert Bloom (oboe) biography[edit]

Please help me to convey to the new editor this message:

Archiving the list of Robert Bloom's pupils is an important contribution to our culture; the list can be found only in this Wiki biography. It gives future researchers and writers the information needed to explore Bloom's legacy in depth. While some links are to the pupil's personal website, other links provide only a starting place for the researcher but are nonetheless valuable. Two doctoral dissertations have already been written, earning the authors the degree of Doctor of Musical Arts:

The American School of Oboe Playing: Robert Bloom, John de Lancie, John Mack, and the Influence of Marcel Tabuteau by Galbraith, Amy M., D.M.A., WEST VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY, 2011, 101 pages; 3476409

The Legacy of Oboist and Master Teacher, Robert Bloom by Janna Leigh Ryon, D.M.A., UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND, 2014

Also, please help me to email the list of the pupils with the links to you. I don't believe that my copy and paste from an email into the submission included the links that have been painstakingly researched.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by SLBloom (talkcontribs) 17:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

This discussion is about a draft article, Draft: Robert Bloom. One of the comments at the draft is about difficulties with the formatting of the list of pupils. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

April 25[edit]

Empty sections with subsections[edit]

Is it a concern based on the Manual of Style or anything else to have a section that has no content, but has multiple subsections with content? Specifically, with Falcon 9 ocean booster landing tests, a page I've converted from a redirect, the article has 3 sections in a row with no content, just layers of subsections (Test flights -> Ocean water descent tests -> Falcon 9 flight 6). Is that a problem? If so, how should it be resolved in that article?

Thanks for the assistance! Appable (talk) 04:02, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't see a problem, plenty of articles have sections without content between a section header and the first sub-section. See Exoplanet, Foreign relations of the Holy See and Munich for a few random examples (although the latter does have "main article” links in those spots). Using the subsections to group things is common, and if there's nothing to say that the (sub)section heading doesn't say, why add something redundant? Ultimately the goal is clarity and a coherent organization. I don't see that "Test flights" or "Sport" (in Munich) really are lacking anything or need to be expanded upon. Rwessel (talk) 04:33, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
And for that matter, look up a few lines and note the lack of anything between the April 25 and the start of this section. Rwessel (talk) 04:34, 25 April 2015 (UTC)