Wikipedia talk:Administrators

History section

I have restored to the "history" section content removed here as "unsolicited opinion that deviates from Jimmy Wales' tenet". The section is about the history of the adminship role, not about Jimmy's tenet. The history of adminship did not stop in February 2003. :) Always open for discussion. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Quite happy to agree. The "tenet" may have been true at the time, but at present it seems to me to be a misunderstanding of the nature of rank. Owning a gun may not be a big deal in some societies - unless you don't have one yourself, are occasionally confronted by those who do, and may be required to jump through difficult hoops to get one. Ben MacDui 13:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I have reverted Elonka's addition of refs to ArbCom cases. ArbCom should be enforcing policy, not defining it. Putting links to ArbCom cases in policy implies that policy is defined by ArbCom rulings. --Surturz (talk) 22:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

There's the possibility of confusion there. However, a case could be made that Arbcom rulings are effectively Case law on Wikipedia. Personally I don't think that actually captures it, though; the place to see the ongoing community rejection of WP:NOBIGDEAL is not at WP:RFAr, but WP:RFA. causa sui (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Since ArbCom is the body tasked with removing problematic administrators what they have to say regarding administrator conduct has teeth. There are also plenty of policies which link to or quote ArbCom decisions for illustration purposes. Hut 8.5 21:33, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Put another way, when I added the text we are talking about back in July, I had WP:RFA in mind, not WP:RFAr. causa sui (talk) 22:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Administrators open to recall

Was there ever any administrator actually recalled via the, "Administrators open to recall" process? It seemed to me on first read, that such processes are actually iron clad against the possibility of an actual recall. Unless circumstances are such that the community would take the bit away anyway because the uproar is so great.

So is there a list of any past successful recalls and the criteria which was used? Hobartimus (talk) 20:45, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators open to recall/Past requests--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that list is really helpful, it seems people really do use widely differing criteria for a recall. Hobartimus (talk) 21:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

When can an administrator become involved?

"... an administrator who has interacted with an editor or topic area purely in an administrative role... is not involved and is not prevented from acting in an administrative capacity in relation to that editor or topic area"

It seems that disruptive users often pull out WP:INVOLVED concerning any admin who has interacted with them. When does discussion with a user, and urging to follow wikipedia policies, make an admin involved? What if an admin takes incorrect administrative actions? For example, if an admin A has had blocks of user U overturned, is there any point where A can be viewed as having a conflict of interest or considered involved with regard to U? Would the admin be prevented from administrating? Gimmetoo (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Bhim Dal

Bhim Dal is a Society, its full name is Bhim Dal Association and social Society... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdgujre (talk • contribs) 05:57, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

For how long is one elected an admin

Hi, I have just a question. For how long is one elected an admin: for a certain period of time or "for ever"? --vacio 10:14, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Adminship doesn't expire, it's more like a driving licence than an elected position. There are ways to remove adminship though. Hut 8.5 10:55, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

End time comes to mind ;-) Also note that in many countries driving licenses do expire. Apparently, I will lose the right to steer 12 ton trucks in 2017 (which is fine, since I only got it by some strange remixing of German and European vehicle categories to begin with). However, I will still be allowed to drive a 2.5 ton limousine into a group of innocent school children when I'm 120... --Stephan Schulz (talk) 11:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Oke, I see it now, thanks! --vacio 11:30, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

LOL .. Stephan and Hut .. you guys are funny. I always thought it was more of this kind of license. :-) ...

Vacio, until recently when an editor was granted the admin. rights, it was pretty much considered for life. (short of making a major screw-up). A few months ago it was decided that if an administrator was inactive for more than a year, then that account had the rights removed. If however, that person came back, then they could request the extra tools be returned. Now if an administrator shows some really bad judgment, then sometimes people go to what we call the Arbitration Committee, where a group of elected folks can decide that the administrator has messed up so bad that the extra tools are taken away from them. Hope that helps. — Ched :  ?  13:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Until the heat death of the universe, assuming Wikipedia goes off-planet in time. Jehochman ^Talk 14:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, is there a stat anywhere that shows the average duration of admins' tenures? Ben MacDui 14:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if there is a published statistics on this. But, overall, very few Admins are resigned, and very few resign voluntarily. I think the most frequent case is that they just slowly petter out, but still keep the tools. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 15:25, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Administrators#Review and removal of adminship. There have been a few admins who voluntarily requested that their admin rights be revoked. Some of those later applied for them to be restored. I know of no list of those: but I do know that in order for the rights to be restored, some of them had to go through WP:RFA just like anybody who had never been an admin. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

And we now have a procedure for dealing with inactive administrators although I don't have the link handy. Dougweller (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Administrators#Procedural removal for inactive administrators. Re Stephan Schulz's comment, I agree, but given the relatively short time the 'pedia has existed and the rate of attrition I'd guess that 3 years or so might be the average. Ben MacDui 16:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Dear Admin, For long time i am trying to put information and update about Guru Ravidass ji and related fields. But i face lots of problems while keeping either media uploaded or its publicity. Either you people take the responsibility of all Ravidassia religion related pages or entitle me some powers related to it. Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superiorfaither (talk • contribs) 17:52, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

How do I add another Chris Marsden

Hi there!

Currently there is only one Chris Marsden and he is a footballer.....I on the other hand am I successful radio and TV voiceover artist and broadcaster!

How does one get my info placed upon the World of Wiki?

I am mentioned on the Famous people of Worksop page, but then it directs people to the footballer? I don't want to edit his page, but to add my own!

Prey tell, as it looks all a bit too much for me?

Cheers

Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris Marsden (talk • contribs) 20:05, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I see that you posted an identical question at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Biography question. Per WP:MULTI and the notice at the top of this page ("This talk page is not the place to post questions for or ask for help from administrators"), I think all the discussion should be on that page, not here. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2012 (UTC)