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Use in an infobox[edit]

Marshall Goldsmith
Born (1949-03-20) March 20, 1949 (age 65)
Valley Station, Kentucky
Alma mater
Spouse(s) Dr Lyda Goldsmith

An example of the use of {{Authority control}} in an infobox can be found on Marshall Goldsmith; I reproduce it here (without the photo). For articles with no infobox (yet!), the AC template can still be used in the footer. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I suggest that you take steps to make it more integrated into the infobox. In the past there have been discussions which have concluded that all fields in the infobox were equal. See for example WP:INFOBOXFLAG. Would it be possible to have it appear more like Alma mater does in this example? Stuartyeates (talk) 11:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
While I would prefer that visual presentation, I'm not sure that it's possible, without either a) making separate AC parameter(s) to each biographical infobox or b) making a separate template for use in infoboxes, while retaining the original template for use outside infoboxes. Anyone else got any thoughts? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I've now added the relevant hCard microformat markup to the AC template; when it's used in an infobox, the first-found UID will be emitted as part of the infobox's microformat. For that reason, I've moved VIAF into the first position. Once we decide on a solution, it can also be mapped in DBpedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Any thoughts on moving this forward? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:37, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand what you propose or what is illustrated here. To wit, the authority control module(?) of {{infobox person}} in our biography Marshall Goldsmith displays ISNI: (on two lines, for me), BNF: and (data) links as well as VIAF: and GND: [2 plus the label] that are displayed here in talk space, for me now. I don't know how you have effected that difference technically or what you propose in this regard.
Btw, no value is provided for parameter LCCN in either of those two locations, nor at WikiData: Marshall Goldsmith. That may change, whence WorldCat: and LCCN: links may or may not be displayed here.
Btw and fwiw, many many uses of template {{worldcat id}} occur in External links sections of our biographies wherein the same WorldCat link is displayed by template {{authority control}}. There may be little redundancy in effect, for most visitors, and I feel sure there is none in big sections. For instance see Aristotle#External links (whose worldcat links are broken for me now).
--P64 (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
The example here is a mockup, created in 2012; the issue under discussion is the style of presentation, not the specific content. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


It might be time to think about auto-archiving, perhaps by year; if I'm reading this correctly, {{Automatic archive navigator}} can handle such archives. —SamB (talk) 17:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Done; using Miszabot. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:36, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
That worked! 30 topics were archived. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
14 days seems short to me. In the event, however, the latest activity in Archive 1 is almost 90 days old, 4 December 2013.
Can it be advanced manually to Archive 2 now? --in effect, turnover with the new year as SamB suggests above. --P64 (talk) 19:42, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
It's 14 days or three threads, but feel free to extend it if you think that's better. I don't see any need to manually bump the archive page number, we don't do that for other pages which are similarly archived by a bot; and besides the archives are searchable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Check digits[edit]

Please see a suggestion I have made, at Template talk:Authority control#Check digits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Contradictions in instructions in this article[edit]

The section on LCCN says "leading zeros of the serial number have to be removed", but the last example given does not remove them. Why not? Softlavender (talk) 22:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

DAAO record (Australian artists)[edit]

Please see discussion at Template talk:Infobox artist#DAAO record in infobox. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:46, 20 April 2014 (UTC)