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Moroccan Arabic?[edit]

Seems I can't find it... Any help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabertooth (talkcontribs) 13:40, 26 January 2007

Professional level of Danish[edit]

Hi, I've made a da-5 userbox:

da-5 Denne bruger kan bidrage med dansk på et professionelt niveau.



Wanted so badly to show it off on my user page. =P

Gendered forms[edit]

On Wiktionary, we've included gendered forms into the message, because in some languages it is rather strange for certain words to be used for the other gender. For example in French, "cet utilisateur" seems a bit strange for a woman I think as they use many gender-specific words there. Should this be included here? CodeCat (talk) 14:40, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Would say it's not really a problem (French tends to use masculine pronouns generically when the gender is mixed or unknown, so it should be OK analogically to use the masculine form here). Double sharp (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Userbox Set Formatting[edit]

Anyone know how to override the default formatting in the {{Babel|EN}} type construct? As you can see on my user page, it's listing a little to starboard (to the right) - I'd like to have it centered. If you drill down to the actual HTML, it's parsing as "float:right" and "margin-left:1em" - both of which I'd like to do away, on my user page - not on the box "set" as a whole. Jarod (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

By default, {{babel}} has the styling margin-left: 1em; - you can alter that with the |left= parameter, like this. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

French ?[edit]

I can't find French.24.89.95.149 (talk) 02:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

never mind i found it.24.89.95.149 (talk) 02:45, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Babel templates[edit]

Hi. What's the difference between the local babel template, and using something like {{#babel:en-N}}? Also, is there an option to enable or disable the header and/or border? Rehman 02:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

{{#Babel}} is the Babel extension, which was designed to be consistent across all of the WikiMedia projects - that is, {{#Babel:de-1|en-N|fr-2}} should work exactly the same at English Wikipedia, French Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, English Wiktionary, etc. - unfortunately, it's not completely consistent, compare commons:User:Redrose64 with meta:User:Redrose64. It was introduced in September 2011, and was supposed to replace all the locally-created {{Babel}} templates which exhibited considerable variation in syntax, appearance and effects. See m:Babel extension, several threads at Wikipedia talk:Babel/Archive 4 and (I think) the archives of WP:VPT. I don't think you can hide the header and footer - after all, that would go against the idea of consistency. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the detailed reply. Too bad that it doesn't allow basic customizations such as headers and borders, if it does, it would only make people want to use it more. Also, what about categories? Local babel puts the user in user-language categories, what about the extension? Rehman 16:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
The categories should be the same. However, {{#Babel:de-1|en-N|fr-2}} with three languages puts the page into six categories - Category:User de Category:User de-1 Category:User en Category:User en-N Category:User fr Category:User fr-2 - a general cat for the language and a cat for the specific level as well; this behaviour should match with categories used in other Wikipedia languages and Wikimedia projects. By contrast, {{Babel|de-1|en-N|fr-2}} with the same three languages omits the three general categories and emits only the three for the specific levels: Category:User de-1 Category:User en-N Category:User fr-2. Some language codes produce discrepancies from this pattern. The reasons for these discrepancies vary, but in some cases a category went through WP:CFD. For example, {{#babel:simple-3}} puts the page into Category:User simple and Category:User simple-3 as you might expect, whereas {{babel|simple-3}} puts the page into the general category Category:User simple and ignores the language level - notice that Category:User simple-3 that I just mentioned is redlinked, so it doesn't exist. A CfD from six years ago was used several times an excuse to WP:CSD#G4 each of these categories whenever they got recreated, most recently in September 2012, a whole year after the introduction of {{#Babel}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Capitalisation of categories[edit]

Please can editors familiar with the Babel comment at Template talk:Babel#Capitalisation_of_categories?

I have been trying to sort of the capitalisation of some categories, but have realised that the issues are a little more complex than first appeared. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)