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Translators[edit]

What parameter should be used to insert the name of the translators, if the source is a translated one?Mhhossein (talk) 12:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Use |others=. See Template:Cite_book#Authors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:28, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Order of templates[edit]

I have three queries:

  • Is there any rationale for the order of listing of examples of templates on the citation templates page? The first column has a rough alphabetical listing to begin with (book, journal, website), then starts the alphabetical list again (comic, comic strip, conference paper, court case etc...) which is all very well except for the fact that in my own experience the most commonly used templates are books, news sites/newspapers and websites. To reach the news templates, I need to scroll down, down, down (and even more down down) past comics, freaking comic strips and mailing lists and maps to reach the news template. Since someone has arbitrarily decided that "journal" and "website" templates can sit higher on the ladder, is it possible to elevate "news" on the list as well, before the damned comics?
  • The "news" template seems baised towards newspapers and rather restrictive in its fields/parameters. I needed to cite a report on the Australian (government-owned and auuthoritative) ABC News website a while ago and was a bit baffled at how I should note that it was ABC News, really an online collection of radio and TV reports, and not a newspaper.
  • Under the "news article" template examples, both {{cite news}} and {{citation}} template examples (column 4) have "location" after the "newspaper" field (i.e., to cite "The Age, Melbourne" but only the {{citation}} template has a "location" field. Has that been deleted at some stage, and if so, can it be reinstated?

Other than that, top work on these templates. BlackCab (talk) 12:28, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

For news sources that are not printed, you can use |work= instead of |newspaper=. Pretty much all of the various cite templates respect the |location= parameter; we don't list all available parameters (there are 100+ for each template) for space reasons. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:53, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
The examples in citation template documentation are not consistent. If you visit them expecting consistency from template to template, you'll be disappointed. I've been kicking around ideas to make them more consistent, but every idea I have had involves lots of manual editing and manual maintenance instead of a clever system that would keep everything in sync as changes are made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Displayed Author Limit[edit]

I briefly looked around for an answer, but could not find a good one. I realize that everyone's contribution is important, but when a source has multiple authors (6+), the References section can get a bit messy. When do we use |display-authors=n? Personally, I feel that showing the first three authors is enough for reference (as long as the other authors are not cut out). On the display-authors description, it states:

  • display-authors: Controls the number of author names that are displayed when a citation is published. To control the displayed number of author names, set display-authors to the desired number. For example, |display-authors=2 will display only the first two authors in a citation. By default, the only the first eight cited authors are displayed; subsequent authors beyond eight are represented in the published citation by "et al." If a citation contains nine author names and one wishes all nine author names to display, "et al." may be suppressed by setting |display-authors=9. Aliases: displayauthors.

By default its set to 8. Is that too high? Any thoughts? (Skoot13 (talk) 19:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC))

The reason for the magic value of 8 is probably lost to the mists of time. In earlier versions of the CS1 templates, 9 was the maximum number of authors that could be listed. That restriction is still true for those few CS1 templates that still use {{citation/core}}. The majority of CS1 templates now use Module:Citation/CS1 and the number of authors in the list not artificially limited (there is a citation in Pancreatic cancer with 263 authors).
So, the decision is up to the editors who are working on a particular article. If there is a question about how many authors to display, raise the question at the article talk page.
Trappist the monk (talk) 19:32, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Technical reports and white papers[edit]

Which template should I use for technical reports and white papers? These are not necessarily published in journals or books, and are often released on their own. They are not web sites. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Try {{cite report}}. But some people want rid of that. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:20, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Or {{cite techreport}}. There is a difference in title styling between it and {{cite report}}; {{cite report}} does not style the title.
Trappist the monk (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks! Put me in the "keep it" column! Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:04, 18 December 2014 (UTC)