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Contest on hold[edit]

Hi all, just wanted to let you know I've taken the contest offline while I perform maintenance. Hopefully I can cut down the time it takes to update, but I don't think it will ever be as fast as it was on Toolserver. --JaGatalk 20:17, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, maintenance complete. Contest updates will be much faster now. --JaGatalk 22:20, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
15 seconds versus 90 minutes? Yeah, I'd say that's a lot faster! Good work, and thanks!! --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Permissions problems this morning[edit]

Hello People in Charge: The site where the monthly list, bonus list and project page resides is throwing up 403 errors today, ie "You don't have permission to access /dplbot/ch/monthly_list.php on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request." Please have a look, and thanks in advance. PKT(alk) 12:31, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

The whole http://tools.wmflabs.org/ domain is down at the moment. I'm sure it will come back up soon after people at the WMF offices start coming online (it's 7:30 a.m. on the U.S. east coast at this writing). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

It appears that the domain is down this morning as well - can somebody please give the server a shake? Thank you! 13:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

DPL bot and corresponding tool[edit]

DPL bot notified me of two pages linked to disambiguation pages on my talk page. However the Dab solver does not seem to be functioning at this time. I have also left a note at Wikipedia:Help_desk#DPL_bot_and_corresponding_tool.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Some repeat offenders.[edit]

The following 32 pages have been on the list of the top 1,000 most-linked dab pages for each of the last four months. Let's kill 'em all.

Pending

ALL DONE!

Done
  1. Apollonius
  2. Automatism
  3. Bahasa
  4. Balsam - no longer a disambig
  5. Block voting
  6. Castiglione
  7. Chaumont
  8. Correlation coefficient
  9. Curio
  10. Darband
  11. Fluctuation
  12. Greasewood - de-disambiguated per Talk:Greasewood#Disambiguation page to common name page
  13. Hamnuna
  14. Hazor
  15. Henty Brothers
  16. Indeterminacy
  17. Indicator
  18. National Baptist Convention
  19. Nonlocality
  20. Ramus
  21. Respiratory distress syndrome
  22. Saint Clement
  23. Saint Theodore
  24. Scheduling - no longer a disambig
  25. Sefer haYashar
  26. Solidarism
  27. Squama
  28. Tapanoeli
  29. Thomas Kelly
  30. Transition function
  31. Twistor
  32. Voluntary

Cheers! bd2412 T 04:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Corpus separatum and Index[edit]

If anyone would like to take a whack at fixing the incoming links to the last two outstanding pages for the February disambiguation contest, Corpus separatum and Index, please have at it. bd2412 T 19:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

  • All done! Cheers! bd2412 T 01:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

All done[edit]

The list for February is complete. Congratulations to all who made it happen. We should have a party, announce it at the Village pump or send around a virtual round of drinks. Amazing. Any other ideas how to celebrate? SchreiberBike talk 00:18, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you think it is worth a mention in The Signpost? bd2412 T 16:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, with context of the overall reduction in the number of disambiguation pages with links over the years. So many of the problems with Wikipedia seem intractable and too large to tackle, but this is a great example of finding a way to make solving a problem fun and chipping away at it over years and having a truly meaningful effect. SchreiberBike talk 18:24, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I have made a post on the Signpost suggestions page. Please feel free to expand upon it with your above comments. bd2412 T 18:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

When I saw the list was empty, I thought it had been vandalized. This is amazing!!!! Congratulations, all. I didn't think I'd ever see this happen. --JaGatalk 07:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

What is the highest number of links you have seen for one disambig page? I'm helping out with Newport at the moment and, although that has just over a thousand, I imagine it's a small total relatively? GnGn (talk) 08:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

I have seen a disambig with 6,000+ incoming links. For a brief period, Soviet was a disambig, and it had that many links when it became one. I believe Heer also had about that many when it was made into a disambig. bd2412 T 12:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Wow. Thanks. And Newport is all clear – for the moment. GnGn (talk) 18:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Toolserver Problem - 404 on dab_solver pages[edit]

Hello - toolserver is showing 404 errors on https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py?page=WhateverPageWasChosen Can somebody please look into this? Thanks in advance! PKT(alk) 01:19, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Halfway, Kentucky[edit]

Not sure if this is the correct section to be requesting this. I created a disambiguous page Halfway, Kentucky, but the Talk Page redirects to the talk page for Halfway, Allen County Kentucky, one of the specific page listed on the disambiguous page. Anyone know how to correct it? -Ichabod (talk) 16:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Problem with Template:Phenylalanine biosynthesis[edit]

This template seems to be calling the disambiguation page Center in pages where that is used as an alignment parameter, and I can't figure out how to fix that. bd2412 T 22:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Fixed now. Seppi333 (Insert  | Maintained) 04:25, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Persian Empire[edit]

Seems kind of WP:DABCONCEPT-y to me. Any thoughts? bd2412 T 01:23, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Lag?[edit]

I just received a DPL notice for an edit that I made on April 27. All notices I received previously were more timely, I think(?). Just wondering if others are also having a large lag between the edit time and the DPL notification? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 13:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Additional namespaces for contest?[edit]

Has there ever been discussion on adding other namespaces to the contest? (e.g. Category, File, Portal) Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 21:17, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

I would support this, particularly for Portal space, since this is most like Article space. bd2412 T 02:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Book namespace too. GoingBatty (talk) 02:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Congo[edit]

I've been going through and fixing the wikilinks to Congo, when I came across one that I don't know how to fix. Congo (novel) links to Congo, but the article explicitly states that which Congo is never specified in the novel. So, to me, that would seem to indicate that the link to the ambiguous Congo is correct, and I can't really change it to either specific Congo (all we know is that it's in Africa). Is it okay to leave that wikilink or should I just choose a Congo to link it to? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 16:39, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Per WP:INTDABLINK, the thing to do there is to pipe the link through a disambiguation redirect like so: [[Congo (disambiguation)|Congo]], so that our tools will count it as a fixed link. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:48, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

How about a one-day contest on Saturday, May 24?[edit]

I would like to propose another one-day contest on Saturday, May 24. I don't have anything in mind as far as prizes go (I'm not planning on giving a cash award to the winner this time), but it would be a nice idea to have something. Perhaps the WMF can set us up with some t-shirts or something. In any case, does this sound like a good day for a contest? Also, how about having a regular one-day contest, perhaps once every three months, with its own Hall of Fame and barnstars? Cheers! bd2412 T 23:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I thought this was a great idea, but I just realized that the day's already started where I am! :-P No one else is interested? - Gorthian (talk) 07:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I never heard from anyone else being interested. Maybe we'll do one around this time next month. bd2412 T 21:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Bonus list not refreshing[edit]

FYI - the Bonus list isn't refreshing - it says "This page is updated hourly; the last update completed 2 hours 32 minutes ago." GoingBatty (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

The job queue on Tools Labs got clogged up; I think they've called the plumber. :-) R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:14, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Getting better - now the rep lag is gone and "the last update completed 1 hour 14 minutes ago". GoingBatty (talk) 23:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Updating count[edit]

All along, I thought there was some magic machine that updated the count of links fixed; now, looking at the page history, I see that people have been "updating counts" for various edits...by hand? Are we each supposed to do that? Because if so, I've got a lot of numbers to tally! :-D - Gorthian (talk) 00:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Whenever one of us updates the count, we add in the numbers for any finished pages that have not already been added to the count. bd2412 T 01:06, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Set index articles[edit]

"List of schools named after Francis Xavier" has been tagged as a set index article, which is apparently "not a disambiguation page". It was originally a disambiguation page, but we couldn't keep a people from turning it into a set index article by adding every school they knew of with this name, no matter how unnotable. Now that it has {{set index article}} instead of {{schooldis}}, DPL bot no longer seems to prompt editors to disambiguate their links that lead to "List of schools named after Francis Xavier" or its redirects. Is there a way to have certain set index articles treated as disambiguation pages regardless of the page's format? – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 21:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I would suggest that, to the extent that there are pages that are exact title matches to incoming redirects, specific redirects should be turned into individual disambiguation pages. For example, St. Xavier's College currently redirects to this list. It could be a disambiguation page listing exact title matches for St. Xavier's College and the very close St. Xavier College, but not for pages titled St. Xavier's School or St. Xavier's High School, which are not close enough titles to be considered ambiguous to "College". bd2412 T 00:07, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
That was the case several years ago, and there still is Xavier University (disambiguation), but there was quite a bit of overlap between "St. Xavier's College" and "St. Xavier College" (especially among schools in India), "St. Xavier's Secondary School" and "St. Xavier's School", "St. Francis Xavier High School" and "Xavier High School", etc., either because editors were mistaken or the schools themselves were inconsistent. Maintaining one article has sharply reduced the amount of maintenance, even if we have to correct inbound links manually. So on second thought, I guess I'm fine with leaving things as is. :^) – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 05:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
And, as articles, SIAs are subject to the usual criteria, including notability for list articles. So crappy SIAs should be deleted, just like any other crappy list articles. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

DABing articles from my watchlist[edit]

Is there any way to fix DAB links from pages on my watchlist? Ollieinc (talk) 04:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I think I don't understand the question. Can you give me an example of the problem on your watchlist and the kind of fix you'd like to apply? -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:25, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
I think he is asking whether he can get a list of pages on his watchlist with links needing disambiguation, complete with dabsolver links to make the fix. bd2412 T 19:37, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
@Ollieinc: Unfortunately, I don't think Dab Solver is going to be around much longer - see User:Dispenser/Toolserver migration. Instead, I suggest you use WPCleaner. You could use it one the following ways:
  • If you want to check articles on your watchlist to see if any of them have ambiguous links, launch WPCleaner, select the Watch list button, and run the full analysis on 20 at a time.
  • If you have a favorite list of ambiguous pages (e.g. Journey) where you want to find links and fix them, you can create a list of those pages (e.g. User:GoingBatty/Musicdabs), launch WPCleaner, enter the page name and click the Internal links button. For each of your favorite pages, click the Disambiguation button and run the full analysis on each article containing the ambiguous link.
Hope this helps! GoingBatty (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Dab solver is gone[edit]

Dab solver is now gone :-(
Could someone please update the bonus list and any similar pages to remove the links to Dab solver? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

DPL Bot's automated message will need to be updated as well, since it still says "Fix with Dab solver". PaintedCarpet (talk) 15:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for mentioning this. The automated page links need to be changed to something that works as PaintedCarpet mentioned. Vegaswikian (talk) 15:58, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
So what do people think is the best tool for fixing dabs now? Bazonka (talk) 21:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
It looks like there is an effort going on to resurrect it - thank goodness, I tried WPCleaner and couldn't get it working. I was using an old school approach, and it wasn't going well.... PKT(alk) 01:39, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Great news - Dab solver is back! 01:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talkcontribs)
Can disambiguation link notifications be changed back to include a link to fix with dab solver? A disambig link notif I got in June had a link to fix with dab solver, but a disambig link notif I got today didn't. Ollieinc (talk) 09:12, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
The dablink is now at this address. Can this template be changed to it before the next disambiguation link is sent? --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:16, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I can't get that new version to work - it just spits out an error message ("oursql Error (2003): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'enwiki-p.rrdb' (111)"), so maybe hold off on adding it to the notification message for a little bit? Furius (talk) 10:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)