Wikipedia talk:Lamest edit wars

Demi Moore

I don't know the process for getting something added to this list, but please, someone who does, please please get this one on it. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
It gets more delicious. One of the noble edit-warriors is now edit-warring over the thread header (see the history for this talk page). It goes without saying -- really it does, on this particular talk page -- that "fully stupid" refers to the edit war, not the person. I have nothing but respect for Ms Moore, whatever her real birth name might have been. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 04:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Talkpage header, where the claims of edit warring on this page are being discussed. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:35, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

What's more lame...the fight over her "real name", or the edit-war over a BLP-aggrieving section heading? I'd say the latter. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Lameness within lameness... Lameception. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Overhaul

I'm about to conduct a major overhaul of the article. It seems to me that quite a few of these entries are unreferenced and may even be simple talk page debates. I'll try to delete all entries that are only talk page debates and add references for the actual edit wars. Interchangeable|talk to me 16:46, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

This whole page should be deleted. It is not "humorous" to poke fun at people who feel strongly about things that are important to them. At minimum, all but the most trivial and joky issues should be deleted. Some of the entries are about sensitive, controversial and highly non-trivial matters, and classifying disputes about them as "lame" displays an extraordinary lack of judgement. 86.176.210.154 (talk) 02:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I think 86.167.19.92 makes a legitimate point here. I see WP:LAME as a way for us to remind ourselves to keep a sense of perspective, by gently mocking those folks who have spent untold hours debating the merits of "yogurt" vs "yoghurt". Including more serious disagreements detracts from that purpose. Also, this is a gigantic list, which would be better if the best (most trivial) examples weren't obfuscated by genuine controversies. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 05:13, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Eh-hem. This page is not about debates, which are excellent ways of conflict resolution and should be encouraged, however trivial they may be. It is about true edit wars, where participants revert back and forth many times without discussing why except in their edit summaries. Wikipedia is all about discussion and consensus. Those who attempt to ignore that and push their views are truly lame and should be included here as a reminder to the rest of us. Interchangeable|talk to me 19:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

This distinction is too precarious to justify serious matters, and matters about which people genuinely feel strongly, being described as "lame", "humorous" and "trivial" and listed on a page whose sole purpose seems to be to mock. 86.160.212.9 (talk) 01:57, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Interchangeable, poor choice of words on my part. I was referring to the genuine back-and-forth edit war over "Yoghurt" vs "Yogurt", distinct from actual debate on the talk page. My point is that this page should focus on edit wars over such trifles, and not edit wars over serious matters. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 05:47, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Serious-matter edit wars can be lame. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 11:18, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

AdrianJ, will you please provide a reference for the genuine edit warring? It's currently not in the entry. Interchangeable|talk to me 16:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I think that the fact the page spent over eight years being batted back and forth between titles is reference enough... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, some of those debates are pretty notable---and do include revision edits as different sides often tried to make their edits count. But some of the debates (ala the pregnancy one) were monstrosities over pretty trivial matters.---Balloonman ^{Poppa Balloon} 21:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

To quote this page, "It must have been an actual edit war. Discussions on talk pages, even over trivially lame details are not "edit wars" and should NEVER be added: we want to encourage such rational debates between users/viewpoints (as opposed to actual edit warring). Note that pithy quotes on talk pages may be suitable for Wikipedia:Talk page highlights." It is because of this guide line that I am conducting the overhaul. Interchangeable|talk to me 23:41, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

This one is pretty lame

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_(241%E2%80%93260)/Mudkip_Meme_Inclusion_Debate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.211.189 (talk) 22:55, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

How about this?

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion#Bold, revert, discuss. Should it be Articles for Deletion or Articles for deletion? Cue lengthy back and forth debate, culminating in a Wikipedian declaring For fuck's sake, leave it alone.. Not an edit war per se but a pretty pointless debate over a pretty trivial thing. --Ritchie333 (talk) 10:59, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

• And how about WP:The Last Word, which has had a bit of an edit war (that might just kick off again today if we're lucky) over whether or not it should have the {{humor}} tag on the essay. --Ritchie333 (talk) 13:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Pluto

I'm a bit concerned about the inclusion of Pluto here. First of all, this isn't something as trivial as a capitalization or punctuation argument; scientists have debated this, so why wouldn't editors? Not exactly "lame". But more importantly, the entry says the raging debate took place on the talk page. If that's true, then it wasn't even an edit war. How can something be considered a "lame edit war" when editors didn't edit war, but discussed as they were supposed to do? Joefromrandb (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

By all means, remove it if you wish. I could certainly use some help with this overhaul (see above). Interchangeable|talk to me 19:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Y Done Thank you. Joefromrandb (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2012 (UTC)