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"infobox bishopstyles"[edit]

I'm stuck. I've done a little work on Robert Finn (bishop). More recently, a coat of arms with a Latin motto has been added to the infobox which is set up under the "infobox bishopstyles" heading visible here. I tried to add a line for motto for an English translation but "motto=" didn't register. I found my way here in my search for what "infobox bishopstyles" was so as to find if I could find a way to enter the translation. I found the "Religion Topics" dropdown in this article but nothing there. No "bishopstyles" in a search of the article or in the archives of this Talk page. A search of all Wikipedia and wiki: also yielded nothing on "bishopstyles". Can anyone direct me on my way, here? I did check at Coat of arms and seem to be on the right path (with the right term: motto), substantively; and feel an English translation is appropriate for the encyclopedia and the article.

I do anticipate one further problem once I find a way into the infobox so I'll house the whole edit here for the time being, too; in short, I'm relying on Google Translate for my translation. I seem to recall problems using a Google-based citation. I'm prepared to cross that bridge when I get to it but am open to comment on it here, too. Here's the line I want to add to the Finn infobox: "Seek ye first the kingdom of God" <ref>[https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#la/en/quaerite%20primum%20regnum%20dei Google Translate from "Quaerite primum regnum dei" (Latin)]</ref>

Any help appreciated. Thanks. Swliv (talk) 23:55, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Swliv try using {{Infobox Christian leader}}. the styles templates are very limited by design. Frietjes (talk) 16:54, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Good start, thanks Frietjes. But simple substitution of the "Infobox Christian leader" for the "bishopstyles" template certainly didn't work. Three specific parameters -- dipstyle=The Most Reverend; offstyle=Your Excellency; Monsignor; and relstyle=Bishop -- are excluded. The "leader" template would theoretically (per your linked page) include motto -- my goal -- though the motto also didn't come up in my first try with "leader".
I don't have time for much more now but also will want to think about providing a portal to the 'leader' page on this 'Manual' page; where currently only Latter Day Saints and another are touched under Religion.
If any further direction off this first cut, again appreciated. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 12:25, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Swliv, I wasn't suggesting a complete replacement. see, for example, Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, Joseph Duffy (bishop), etc. Frietjes (talk) 13:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Frietjes, I have found no way INTO 'bishopstyles' to add "motto="; and, a little awkwardly (in practice), motto in "leader" template comes up under "Personal details" whereas I understand (and see, under "bishopstyles") the coat of arms (and hence motto I'm assuming) come/would come under "Styles" (also more connected to the diocese than to the individual bishop? that's how I'm seeing it for now). I've shown the best way I can work it out here at my Wiki sandbox; awkward-looking. More thoughts? Thanks for your help to here. I'll go with the sandbox version with explanation -- "motto translation; a bit jury-rigged but no motto option under 'bishopstyles', no way INTO 'b'styles' that I've found Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#"infobox bishopstyles"" -- if there's nothing else, see how it flies.
If you could tell me how to get into "bishopstyles" I'm sure I could work with, say, "Caption" or some other available header; or, as I've said, add "Motto".
Looking at Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, the coat of arms doesn't have any Latin in it; but the article uses both '-styles' boxes; I'd have the same problem if there was Latin I wanted to show the translation for; as my sandbox version does but with the awkward doubling of Personal details some of which may not be so-much-personal details. Duffy of course has no coat of arms at all. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 16:33, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Swliv, I don't see a reason why the motto shouldn't be in "Infobox Christian leader" instead. if you want to change where the motto appears in "Infobox Christian leader", then you should start a thread at template talk:Infobox Christian leader, since there are more editors who watch that page than this one. Frietjes (talk) 16:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Frietjes, for better or worse (and I see now you specifically advised against it, above), I went to Template talk:Infobox bishop styles instead. And for your reference, incidentally, in case you hadn't already figured it out, I didn't know that I was looking for a template ("template:"); and I guess I didn't make that clear above exactly. Once you directed me to "template talk:Infobox Christian leader" and I worked there a while it dawned on me you'd given me the key to the other door as well. The joys. We'll see. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Remedy six of the infoboxes arbcom case[edit]

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Infobox for an initiative regarding this recommended remedy. --Francis Schonken (talk) 18:47, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Request for Comment[edit]

There is currently an RfC at Talk:Ryukyu Kingdom#RfC: Infobox concerning the MoS for infoboxes. Thank you. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 19:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Salary[edit]

What is the BLP policy with salaries in an infobox? When noting an individual's income or salary on a BLP info box, do we include the dollar amount cited in a reliable source even if it includes other expenses or reimbursements? Thanks! Meatsgains (talk) 19:47, 1 March 2015 (UTC)