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Ikea[edit]

This doesn't really need a section in the page, but it was hilarious: Ikea prints faux books for use in their showrooms using WP content: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104867148520425189911/posts/Wm4ebSLFEaj --j⚛e deckertalk 03:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

chadricka[edit]

thumbnail — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.36.125.74 (talk) 22:37, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

goo?[edit]

An editor attempted to use this page as a reference. It looks like a part of goo. Is this a mirror?--Auric talk 10:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

===goo Wikipedia===
{{Wikipedia mirror
|       name = goo Wikipedia
|        url = http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/
|     sample = http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/List_of_Pakistani_inventions_and_discoveries
}}

Complying websites[edit]

Hello! In case of websites that comply with our policy, do we still list them in the alphabetical list for the purpose? I have come across this site http://www.razorrobotics.com which i think complies with our licenses. Sample is http://www.razorrobotics.com/knowledge/?title=Category:Dams_completed_in_1966. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 08:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, they should be listed under High (note, that short list probably isn't complete). This can be seen as both a "thank you" and a good example to other sites. Superm401 - Talk 03:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Unable to enter the site http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/[edit]

While trying to enter http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/list/, I am getting the following notice: Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /onlinesp/list/ on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Please help, Thanks in advance, (Schwiki 14:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schwiki (talkcontribs)

Legality[edit]

I have just changed the beginning of the project page that read [my italics]:

Legality of mirrors and forks
Every contribution to the English Wikipedia has been licensed for re-use, including commercial, for-profit websites. Republication is legal, so long as the licenses are complied with.

I've amended this to read Copyright status of mirrors and forks...Republication is not a breach of copyright. The problem with the original broad statement is that a court might deem republication to be illegal or actionable for reasons other than copyright, and it is not in our best interests to offer an open-ended guarantee of legality. In particular, the exemption in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act may not apply where a third party intentionally copies material from Wikipedia. If someone is defamed in a Wikipedia article, WMF is apparently protected by §230. If a third party who copied the article accepts liability, it would be undesirable to let them sue us because we have assured them that "republication is legal". I'm not a lawyer, so please undo this if you feel like taking the risk.... - Pointillist (talk) 21:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Forbes recently published an op-ed on how this might apply in the UK. Their article (UK's New Defamation Law May Accelerate The Death Of Anonymous User-Generated Content Internationally) seems to be saying that publishers are only protected to the extent that they know who their users are. As I see it, any UK republisher of Wikipedia content can have little idea of who is behind most of our contributor's usernames and IP addresses. Anyway, if the republisher has deliberately copied the material from Wikipedia, can the republisher successfully claim it is "user-generated content"? The anonymous individuals who generated it weren't users of the republisher's service. - Pointillist (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Zeably - Unattributed mirror[edit]

Please see http://www.zeably.com/. jonkerztalk 13:41, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

New section for simply viewing the list[edit]

I arrived here wanting to simply view the list, to see what was in it. Apparently, to view the list, you have to click one of the links in "How to list new mirrors". This seems kind of confusing to me. So I'd like to propose a new section for editors who just want to view the list.

This new section could be entitled "How to view the list", or "List of mirrors and forks", or simply "The list". It would contain the alphabetical links, moved to this new section from "How to list new mirrors", and a sentence to the effect "Click one of the following links to view the list."

The "How to list new mirrors" section would need to be modified, since the list of sections has been moved. I'd also suggest that instead of simply "List new mirrors in the appropriate alphabetical section" (what to do), we should explain how to do it. For example, as follows.

  1. Click one of the sections in "List of mirrors and forks" to display the appropriate page in the list.
  2. Edit the page, adding the new mirror in alphabetical order by name.
  3. Preview your edit, and save it if you are satisfied.

When adding a new mirror, use the following form.

Step 3 in particular may seem like overkill, but if you asked a technical writer I think that's what they would suggest. --Margin1522 (talk) 00:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)