Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland

Eugeniusz Romer

It seems that this expert of Polish case in negotiations before Treaty of Versailles, world expert in cartography, glaciology, and climatology is really forgotten by Polish wikipedians. alx-pl d

Can you identify this painting?

Related to the Constitution of 3 May, I am looking for author, title, date and a better quality version: [1]. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 22:20, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Took a look around, the major painting available appears to be the one already on WP, [2]. If you send me the link to the original page the painting appears in, I can poke around a bit more, feel free to just respond here. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 19:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Not the right painting, but our troubled friend found the picture, fixed it and uploaded it with some added info: File:Ogloszenie Konstytucji 3-go Maja 1791 (obraz olejny MHW 17908).jpg. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:16, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

B-class review (Ignacy Potocki)

Another major figure related to the Constitution of the 3 May. Within the next few weeks, I plan to use my scans of PSB to similarly expand and improve articles on Staszic and Poniatowski. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 05:16, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

B-class review request (Stanisław Staszic)

C'mon, people, isn't there anybody who can review a few articles? Sigh. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 05:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I did some CE and such, but I'd rather leave assessment to a native speaker who can review the style better than I can. //Halibutt 19:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I usually don't bother much with language assessment for B-class; this is something that reviews at GA+ classes can worry about. In fact, I do GA reviews and don't worry much about language, neither. There is only so much one person can do - it's almost impossible to find somebody who knows Wikipedia policies, topic subject and has good grasp of language, so one-person reviews will almost always be inadequate. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Done.VolunteerMarek 03:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Polish–Soviet War is about to get defeatured

Thanks to VM for helping with a number of issues, but it is clear that the two of us do not have time or will to fix all of them. Does anyone else care to help? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:38, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I can copyedit similar to Radzymin and ask intelligent questions about the content and look for any holes, having some familiarity with it as well as some sources. Time is limited but glad to help. Aside from any straight copyediting, do we have any key issues, they weren't clear from the last "cleanup" thread from last summer. If you'd like to post a new "Essentials" section with a list of to-do's necessary to maintain article status, that would help. Best! PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 18:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I tracked down the FARC. I'll try and take a look this weekend, and I might have some time next week. Best, PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 23:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

":behaviour of some commanders like Stanisław Bułak-Bałachowicz[112] or Vadim Yakovlev.[113]" - bad guys were only on Polish side.Xx236 (talk) 09:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Poland will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Poland's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I just contributed by writing an article on Grażyna Auguścik :). She is an exceptional performer in the female-dominated field of jazz singing. Orczar (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I had no women bio's on my to translate list, so I grabbed a Polish GA that was entirely missing on en wiki: Adelaide of Poland. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

WP Poland in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Poland for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 08:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I think that's an excellent opportunity! PS. Ok, I see a problem. People: please sign your posts there, and do not remove posts by others. This is a space for multiple interviews with our members, not just for one person. Thank you. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 17:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

New newsletter

I've begun a draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject Poland/Newsletter/2, but frankly, we have little news to report. It is currently a copy of the April'11 newsletter, with few tweaks. Any ideas what to add? Perhaps we can report the interview after the fact? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Should partition-rulers be in the scope of our project?

I was looking at our most popular pages, and I noticed a number of Russian tsars there. It appears that articles of Russian rulers of Congress Poland are tagged with WP:POLAND. I don't think this is helpful; they are topics of importance to Russia project, but not really to us. For the same reasons, Polish monarchs are not included in the scope of Ukraine, Belarus, Prussia or Silesia WikiProjects. And neither Napoleon nor Hitler are included within the scopes of most the countries they conquered. G

Articles affected:

• Talk:Catherine the Great
• Talk:Alexander I of Russia
• Talk:Nicholas I of Russia
• Talk:Alexander II of Russia
• Talk:Alexander III of Russia
• Talk:Nicholas II of Russia

For the record, Frederick Augustus I of Saxony, ruler of Duchy of Warsaw, is not included in our project. Neither are Austro-Hungarian and Prussian rulers (Kings and Queens of Galicia and Lodomeria, and Grand Dukes of Posen, respectively).

Going further, if one was to argue that the period of partitions makes the partition rulers important for our project, why not the partition country governments, and all the myriad articles about their economies, culture, and so on? It's a slippery slope that I think should be fixed before it gets worse.

I'd be inclined to include Frederick Augustus within our scope, but remove all the Russian rulers. Thoughts? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a judgment call. Obviously Catherine had a very large impact on Polish history. But it's unlikely that our project members will be THAT interested in the article, or if they are interested in related article, it's unlikely they'll have trouble finding it. I can see tagging it within the project but rating it as "low importance". But removing them works too.

I agree on Frederick.VolunteerMarek 22:11, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Frederick Augustus belongs more that the others. Orczar (talk) 03:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Monarchs or similar authorities should belong to the Wikiproject associated with the ruling power, not its subject territories unless there was some unique personal connection. (So, for example, I might go over to Lord Mountbatten to see if he's part of Wikiproject India.)

A more direct answer is that IMO a partition of Poland ≠ Polska. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 02:48, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Just to cause a bit of trouble, take a look at List of Polish monarchs (I recently redirected List of kings of Poland into it, and cleaned it up [3]. What should the criteria for inclusion be there? Should the Waclaw's be included (IMO, Waclaw II for sure, Waclaw III maybe)? What about folks like Zbigniew (Krzywousty's brother)? Or Bezprym, this "Otto Bolesławowic" fellar, the famous "Boleslas the Forgotten" or Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor? I'm going with the usual "Poczet Krolow i Ksiazat Polskich" on this one, but it's the same sort of question.VolunteerMarek 04:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

As long as it's Poland proper, generally yes. Waclaw III's assassination left two thrones open, leading to interesting consequences. So, significant even in his premature demise. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 15:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I'd include them all, under pretenders. Ideally, I'd also like to see all election candidates there, too. Now, they should have a smaller box/picture or such. I'd love to see this list improved with references, too! In other news: removed Russian tsars, added FA of Sax to our project scope. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

• You might also want to ask User:Ejgreen77 for his rationale for adding those articles to all those projects back in October 2011. --illythr (talk) 15:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Boring images

I generated list of stubs about villages in Poland, without image in infobox on enwiki, but with image on plwiki - maybe somebody will be interested Bulwersator (talk) 20:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that's actually really nice. Is there way to, after reviewing the list manually, have a bot add them all in?

It is possible to create bot like this, but bot is unable to add captions Bulwersator (talk) 22:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, any way a similar list could be generated for biographies?VolunteerMarek 02:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is planned Bulwersator (talk) 22:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I am quite curious how such a list was generated? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:34, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Bot checked all articles on plwiki with a pl:szablon:Wieś infobox, with interwiki to enwiki article with a template:Infobox settlement - then it extracted images (using regex) and generated lists: image on plwiki, without image on enwiki, image on enwiki/nlwiki, without image on plwiki, image on plwiki, without image on nlwiki (bot checked also interwiki to nlwiki articles with a Infobox plaats in Polen template) Bulwersator (talk) 22:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

B-class review request (Stanisław Poniatowski (1676–1762))

I intended to write an article about king Stanisław August Poniatowski, but I scanned wrong bio in the PSB. So here you go, Poniatowski's father, an interesting figure himself (creator and major figure in familia). If anybody could scan and send me SAP's bio from PSB, I'd gladly work on it in the near future. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:33, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

B-class review request (Confederation (Poland))

This time, an article on a more general concept. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Cheer up Kotniski

Kotniski (talk · contribs) seems to have taken a leave of absence from Wikipedia. I think we should show him how much we appreciate his contributions on his talk page, and urge him to come back. He is (was...) one of our most active members. Let's show him we care! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 19:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

New articles

I have recently written some articles about Communist Poland, feel free to improve them.

• 1981 strike at Piast Coal Mine in Bieruń,
• 1981 general strike in Bielsko-Biała,
• 1980 in Poland,
• 1981 in Poland,
• Stanisław Jaros.

More to come. Tymek (talk) 23:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Our interview

Has been published. Thank you for participation, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 04:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Welcoming new users and inviting them to a wikiproject

You can use {{subst:User:Piotrus/w|Poland}} to welcome new editors and invite them to our WikiProject at the same time. Change Poland for other keyword to invite them to a different project. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Krystyna Branicka

If anyone has any sources about this person?? Krystyna Branicka could not be born in the 17th century because her mother was 7 years old in 1700. raziel (talk)

Unreferenced bio with no claim of notability. I am not seeing a corresponding article on pl wiki. Prod it. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 21:31, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Yah, I come from Bialystok and never heard of Branicki daughter. Probably she died young. Speedy deletion? raziel (talk) 17:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Prod, with notification of the creator. Let's be nice. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 18:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

B-class review request (Sejmik)

Anyone, please? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)