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El Primer Grito de Independencia[edit]

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"1809 – History of Ecuador: After nearly three centuries of Spanish rule, the first cry for independence was heard in Quito"

I find "the first cry for independence was heard" to be weasel wording. - MSTCrow 23:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's off the main page now so it is no longer protected. Feel free to change it at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 10. --- RockMFR 02:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weasel wording ? That was my (lame) attempt to "translate" El Primer Grito de Independencia, which is how the occasion is referred to locally. --PFHLai 03:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Passive voice does not necessarily imply weasel words. Weasel words have more to do with opinions than with historical facts, although I do understand your concern. GracenotesT § 03:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Surely someone called for Peruvian independence before then... -Elmer Clark 11:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to suggest something more weaselly, but how about something like: "Ecuadorians celebrate this day as the day when it is said that the first cry for independence from Spain was heard in Quito." I think that gets the meaning right, although with 3 or 4 layers of weaselness. Steve Dufour 02:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tisha B'Av[edit]

Could someone who has the appropriate authority please add Tisha B'Av to the August 10 page for 2008. This is a very important Jewish holiday. Thank you. Manassehkatz 02:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I second this. The significance of this day should be in the article. Yaakovmar (talk) 02:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the Jewish holidays that appear on these pages are posted when they begin at sunset. Thus, Tisha B'Av was posted on yesterday on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 9. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen many exceptions to that rule. Since the overlap between "sunset and midnight" with one day is far less than the overlap between "midnight and sunset" and the next day, it seems to me that it should be listed on the second day, not the first. That is the way most printed Jewish calendars are designed. Manassehkatz 15:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manassehkatz (talk • contribs)
I believe we had I similar discussion on regarding Purim on Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/March 21. It would be nice to know which ones should be put starting on sunset, and which ones should not so when these pages are updated for 2009. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All Jewish holidays start at sunset and continue to the following sunset. In my opinion, that means they should all normally be listed for the latter part of the day, which would make them show as "today" for approximately 3/4 of the time instead of 1/4 of the time. However, there are a few mitigating factors:
1) For holidays where no work is permitted (Passover, Shavuot, Succot, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur) there is some logic to posting on the earlier day as that would give a little "warning" of sorts to people who might be interested in observing that holiday as they wouldn't be able (if they are observing according to traditional Jewish Orthodox practice) to use Wikipedia after sunset.
2) As mentioned above, some holidays - despite lasting an entire day, have the primary observance at night. This is certainly the case for the first 2 days of Passover (Seder is only at night) and could be argued for Chanukah (candle-lighting is primary physical observance and is only said with a blessing at night).
3) Certain holidays are primary in the day and should definitely be marked for the day - Purim - 3 out of 4 rituals are only in the day, 17 Tammuz, Tzom Gedaliah, Fast of Esther, Tenth of Tevet - minor fast days are primarily observed by fasting from sunrise to sunset, Hoshannah Rabbah (last day of Succot) - gets its name from Hoshannos which are done during the day. Manassehkatz (talk) 19:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

St Laurence[edit]

Today is also the Feast Day of St Laurence in Roman Catholicism. He is, even according to the wikipedia article, ' one of the most widely venerated saints of the Roman Catholic Church. ' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalco (talk • contribs) 07:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

Lots of war articles (boo) but 4 first-timers (yay). —howcheng {chat} 06:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's a problem with the blurb for battle of Saint-Mathieu. The statement about it (possible) being the earliest battle between ships with gunports is no longer supported by provided ref.
Peter Isotalo 08:31, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Did some research on the article and rewrote the blurb. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 09:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 07:05, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 06:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 07:28, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 07:30, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 06:31, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 17:08, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 19:43, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

--PFHLai (talk) 08:58, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Missouri's 200th anniversary[edit]

The 200th anniversary of Missouri's admission to the Union is tomorrow. Given the number, I think this one should be featured on Main. Example of a blurb:

1821 – Missouri is admitted to the Union following the Missouri Compromise, becoming the 24th U.S. state.

Thoughts? Thanks. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Missouri is woefully undercited (and tagged as such) - Dumelow (talk) 06:21, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Per Dumlow, the primary reason why an article is highlighted on the main page is it represents quality work, and one of the minimum standards is a well-referenced article. The Missouri article suffers for that, and that is the reason it cannot be posted. We the article up to snuff, and were we given more than 4 hours notice, it may have been possible to add it. --Jayron32 11:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 15:47, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

—howcheng {chat} 17:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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