Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/July 25

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2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 July 2012[edit]

Please replace "1609 – The crew of British sailing ship [...]" with "1609 – During a hurricane, the crew of British sailing ship [...]". It provides additional information on the actual hurricane that, too, inspired The Tempest. --bender235 (talk) 00:58, 25 July 2012 (UTC) bender235 (talk) 00:58, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 05:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Fall of Mussolini[edit]

Good morning
On July 25th, 1943 (70 years ago) the fascist Gran Consiglio voted a motion of no confidence against Benito Mussolini, who was arrested the same day by king Victor Emmanuel III and substituted by Marshall of Italy Pietro Badoglio. It was the fall of Italian Fascism. I think that this date deserves to be mentioned on the main page. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 08:20, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 10:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Cerro Maravilla murders[edit]

Two points:

The statement currently reads: "1978 – Two Puerto Rican pro-independence activists were killed by police at Cerro Maravilla in Villalba."
The statement should read as : "1978 – Two Puerto Rican pro-independence activists were killed in a police ambush at Cerro Maravilla in Villalba", which is more specific (since a police killing could had been the result of many other more common things such as bank robberies, etc).

Also, please note there is an error. Cerro Maravilla is not located in Villalba, Puerto Rico, as it states, but in Ponce, Puerto Rico. See HERE. So the entire sentence should actually read:
"1978 – Two Puerto Rican pro-independence activists were killed in a police ambush at Cerro Maravilla in Ponce"

Mercy11 (talk) 07:41, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:32, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 08:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 July 2014[edit]

July 25:International Quds Day (1979) Mhhossein (talk) 12:17, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

It is a controversial proposal. Ruslik_Zero 16:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. Also, edit requests for things that are about to be on the main page are better left at WP:ERRORS. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Quds Day[edit]

International Quds Day is a non Gregorian-based event held in cities cross the world. I suggest to present it on the main page in "On This Day" section. Mhhossein (talk) 12:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 July 2014[edit]

Can this date be added? "2000 – Air France Flight 4590, a Concorde supersonic passenger jet, F- BTSC, crashes just after takeoff from Paris killing all 109 aboard and four on the ground." This request is due to aircraft accidents coming more into the public eye these last two weeks with 3 airline crashes in two weeks. This will also show that crashes in the past also had a major influence on aviation. Nathan121212 (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done because of the exact reason you mentioned. As there are currently two air disasters listed on ITN, I felt it was important to get a wider variety of topics on the Main Page. howcheng {chat} 04:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)