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2012 notes[edit]

Omitted: History of Miami (ineligible—maintenance); World War I (July Crisis was recently featured); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot; Ian Thorpe; Airblue Flight 202
Included: Thomas Cromwell (first appearance); Bonus Army (first appearance); Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress (first appearance); 1976 Tangshan earthquake (7th appearance, last in 2010); Kennewick Man (6th appearance, last in 2009)

—howcheng {chat} 05:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress; 1976 Tangshan earthquake; Kennewick Man
Included: Maximilien de Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (Robespierre: 6th appearance, last in 2008; Saint-Just: first appearance); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Provisional Irish Republican Army (4th appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Thomas Cromwell (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Bonus Army (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: Thomas Cromwell (ineligible—maintenance); Maximilien de Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just; Bonus Army; 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot; Provisional Irish Republican Army
Included: José de San Martín (2nd appearance, previously featured on January 19); Vinnie Ream (first appearance); World War I (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 100th anniversary); 1976 Tangshan earthquake (8th appearance, last in 2012); Kennewick Man (7th appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 05:22, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: World War I; 1976 Tangshan earthquake; Kennewick Man
Included: Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 80th anniversary); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary); Provisional Irish Republican Army (5th appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: José de San Martín (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Vinnie Ream (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Maximilien de Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (maintenance); 1976 Tangshan earthquake (maintenance); Kennewick Man (maintenance); Airblue Flight 202 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): United States occupation of Haiti
Omitted: Peru (ineligible—maintenance); Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress; 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot; Provisional Irish Republican Army
Included: Bonus Army (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Ian Thorpe (3rd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: José de San Martín (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Vinnie Ream (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total); World War I (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:31, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: United States occupation of Haiti (maintenance)
Omitted: World Hepatitis Day (ineligible—maintenance); Vinnie Ream (ineligible—maintenance); World War I (ineligible—maintenance); Bonus Army (ineligible—maintenance); Ian Thorpe
Included: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (Robespierre: 7th appearance; Saint-Just: 2nd appearance; both last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Sutton Hoo helmet (first appearance); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot (4th appearance, last in 2015); Airblue Flight 202 (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Shi Jingtang (4th appearance, last in 2016; normally appears on November 28); Beatrix Potter (first appearance); Clara Ng (first appearance)
Repeats: José de San Martín (4th consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): 1945 Empire State Building B-25 crash; SMS Bodrog
Omitted: Silent Parade; Airblue Flight 202; Shi Jingtang (deleted—moved back to November 28); Beatrix Potter; Clara Ng
Included: Kennewick Man (8th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Provisional Irish Republican Army; Lucy Burns (first appearance); Baruch Samuel Blumberg (first appearance); Ahmed Sofa (first appearance)
Repeats: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; Robespierre: 8 total; Saint-Just: 3 total); José de San Martín (5th consecutive appearance, 6 total); Sutton Hoo helmet (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 02:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I can't edit the page directly, I'll suggest it here:

The SMS Bodrog of the Austro-Hungarian Navy fires the first shots of World War I, shelling Serbian defences near Belgrade

Although I've just spotted that the article on the ship says on "on the night of 28 July" and does not specify a time, and July Crisis say 1 a.m. on 29th, so perhaps it belongs with the next day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.81 (talk) 07:39, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have added it to the 29th. —howcheng {chat} 21:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): Dulquer Salmaan (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Bill Bradley; Richard Wright (musician); Ray Kennedy; Michael Carrick; Zach Parise
Omitted: José de San Martín; Kennewick Man; Provisional Irish Republican Army; Lucy Burns; Baruch Samuel Blumberg; Ahmed Sofa
Included: Vinnie Ream (4th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Ian Thorpe (4th appearance, last in 2016); Airblue Flight 202 (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Marguerite Louise d'Orléans (first appearance); Richard Johns (first appearance; 80th birthday); Manu Ginóbili (first appearance)
Repeats: Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 225th anniversary; blurb also previously featured Maximilien Robespierre, which is currently ineligible); Sutton Hoo helmet/Rædwald of East Anglia (Helmet: 3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total; Rædwald: first appearance; 80th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 17:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Kennewick Man (maintenance); Beatrix Potter (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): 1976 Tangshan earthquake
Omitted: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just; Vinnie Ream; Ian Thorpe; Airblue Flight 202 (ineligible—maintenance); Richard Johns; Manu Ginóbili
Included: José de San Martín (7th appearance, last in 2018); 1945 Empire State Building B-25 crash (first appearance; 75th anniversary); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot (5th appearance, last in 2017); Provisional Irish Republican Army (2nd appearance, last in 2018); George Law Curry (first appearance); Dulquer Salmaan (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Sutton Hoo helmet/Rædwald of East Anglia (Helmet: 4th consecutive appearance, 4 total; Rædwald: 2nd consecutive, 2 total); Marguerite Louise d'Orléans (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 375th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): R. A. B. Mynors (TFA for 2021)
Omitted: Sutton Hoo helmet/Rædwald of East Anglia; 1945 Empire State Building B-25 crash; 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot; Provisional Irish Republican Army; Marguerite Louise d'Orléans; George Law Curry; Dulquer Salmaan
Included: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (Robespierre: 9th appearance; Saint-Just: 5th; both last in 2019); United States occupation of Haiti (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); 1976 Tangshan earthquake (9th appearance, last in 2014); Ian Thorpe (5th appearance, last in 2019; 20th anniversary); Judith Leyster (first appearance); Ray Kennedy (first appearance); Ahmed Sofa (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: José de San Martín (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total; 200th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:10, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian Statehood Day[edit]

Just created an article Statehood Day (Ukraine) celebrated today as a public holiday for the very fisrt time. Can someone check it and add to the page? Lystopad (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lystopad: Too late for this year, but it will be included for next year. Thanks! —howcheng {chat} 17:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Howcheng: Thank you! For the next year it will be OK:) --Lystopad (talk) 19:38, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Omitted: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just; José de San Martín; United States occupation of Haiti; 1976 Tangshan earthquake; Ian Thorpe; Judith Leyster; Ray Kennedy; Ahmed Sofa
Included: Siege of Damascus (1148) (5th appearance, last in 2018; moved from July 29); Australasian Antarctic Expedition; Rædwald of East Anglia (3rd appearance, last in 2020; blurb previously also featured Sutton Hoo helmet, which is currently ineligible); Salzburg Conference (first appearance); 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot (6th appearance, last in 2020); Lucy Burns (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Baruch Samuel Blumberg (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Clara Ng (2nd appearance, last in 2017)

—howcheng {chat} 17:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2023 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Maximilien Robespierre/Louis Antoine de Saint-Just (date not certain); United States occupation of Haiti (maintenance); Dulquer Salmaan (maintenance); Manu Ginóbili (maintenance)
Omitted: Australasian Antarctic Expedition; Rædwald of East Anglia; Salzburg Conference; 1985 Rajneeshee assassination plot; Lucy Burns; Baruch Samuel Blumberg; Clara Ng
Included: José de San Martín (9th appearance, last in 2021); Silent Parade (first appearance); 1976 Tangshan earthquake (10th appearance, last in 2021); Ian Thorpe (6th appearance, last in 2021); Athanasius I Gammolo (first appearance); Marguerite Louise d'Orléans (3rd appearance, last in 2020); R. A. B. Mynors (first appearance); Huma Qureshi (first appearance)
Repeats: Siege of Damascus (1148) (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

Heart ^(talk) 06:31, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]