Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 10

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I wish I could include Battle of Karbala. Too bad it needs some cleanup and has a POV tag. Ditto for Yazid I. Maybe next year .... -- PFHLai 05:34, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully next year, Carlos Céspedes and Ten Years' War won't be as stubby.... -- PFHLai 22:41, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

That the battle of Tours stopped the Muslim advance into the rest of Europe is disputed by many modern historians. I don't think that he claim that it did is nowhere near certain enough to merit inclusion in in this context.

Peter Isotalo 08:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Poitiers[edit]

Moving this comment from WP:ERRORS; unresolved before it went off the main page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Charles Martel didn't defeat a "large Andalusian Muslim army"; the Muslims were really few. Historians used to believe it was a great battle, but actually they have in the last decades realized that they were wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.171.11 (talkcontribs)

(Citation needed. Historical sources assume Muslim effectives >- Franks.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.240.4 (talkcontribs)

From the Italian book "I mille anni del Mediovo"= Thousand years of Middle Ages by Gabriella Piccinni: '(...)La battaglia di Poitiers del 732, dal punto di vista militare una scaramuccia amplificata dalla leggenda fino alla dimensione di battaglia epocale, ne fece [di Carlo Martello] il simbolo della resistenza cristiana contro i musulmani...' which means 'The battle of Poitiers in 732, miltarly a skirmish amplified by the legend up to the dimension of an epocal battle, made of him [Charles Martel] the symbol of Christian resistance against Muslims...' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.171.11 (talkcontribs)

End of comments from WP:ERRORS

It seems pretty clear that the battle of Poitiers has become famous more by reputation than any proven achievements. The question is, should it be removed because it was really nothing more than a border clash trumped up by the Franks (and even moreso by later Europeans) as "the battle that saved Europe from Islamization", or is its considerable reputation enough to include it? Even if we keep it, it seems like we at least need to rewrite the description.
Peter Isotalo 22:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Typo[edit]

There's a missing space after the semicolon after "Fiji (1970)" … Just pointing that out. Elium2 (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 04:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

2013 notes[edit]

howcheng {chat} 06:15, 9 October 2013 (UTC)