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[edit] Standstill discussions at Tagalog

Hey Tambayan people, the Tagalog Wikipedia really needs your comments on stadstill discussions back there that has not yet closed for many months now.

~~Four~~ Two RfA's. (tl:Wikipedia:Nominasyon para sa Tagapangasiwa ng Wikipedia Tagalog)
Commons Only policy, a proposal to prohibit free images from being uploaded at Wikipedia. Currently 4 in support, one in opposition. (tl:Wikipedia:Kapihan#Commons at mga malayang larawan)
~~Redesign of the tl:Unang Pahina. Currently 5 in support, none in direct opposition Redesign page: tl:Unang Pahina/temp. Discussion: tl:Wikipedia:Kapihan#Bagong Unang Pahina.~~
Standardisation of translations. (tl:Wikipedia:Kapihan#Mga katanungan sa pagsasalin)

-- Felipe Aira 11:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Filipino-Americans and WPPhilippines

Should (or may) Fil-Americans be included in the scope of WikiProject: Tambayan Philippines? I noticed that Fil-Am singer Jasmine Trias is, while actor Rob Schneider, NFL quarterback Roman Gabriel or Miami Heat head coach Erik Spoelstra are not. --Anyo Niminus (talk) 00:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I beleive we should. They are still "one of us".--Lenticel ^(talk) 02:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed they should! I concur, sirs. Alternativity (talk) 09:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

But most of them are of generally lower importance (with respect to Assessment) than pure Filipinos. If their Filipino roots are simply incidental to their being or if their ancestry is less than 1/2 then I don't think we need to really tag them. I guess Enrique Iglesias and his siblings need to be tagged? :-) --seav (talk) 09:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Final Call : Virtual meetup

What : First Philippine Wikipedia Virtual Meetup
Scope : Nationwide with some users from overseas
Platform: Yahoo Messenger
Who : All Philippine Wiki enthusiasts
How to get into conference : One of the users from PhilWiki Yahoo group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/philwiki/) will invite you to the conference. Or you can click "Email this user" on my Exec8 account and state your Yahoo ID.
Time : Should be YM online around 19:55 (7:55 PM) Philippine Standard Time 05/03/2008 until 1:00 AM Phil Standard Time 05/04/2008
Topics : Suggested topics stated above.

See Yah! --Exec8 (talk) 21:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

- Uh... Exec8 your E-mail this user feature is disabled.--Lenticel ^(talk) 22:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Someone still has to notify the other Philippine Wikimedia projects. So far, only the Tagalog projects and the Cebuano Wikipedia have been notified. --Sky Harbor 23:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  - UPDATE: All Wikimedia projects have been informed of the meetup. --Sky Harbor 16:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Dang, Im scheduled to see my dentist tomorrow =/ †Bloodpack† 01:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  - You're going to see your dentist at night? (Or are you in a different time zone?) --seav (talk) 03:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

On a side note, I've always found dates confusing, because I usually use YYYYMMDD to help me keep my files' dates more organized (I use notepad a lot). The result is that I usually have trouble distinguishing an MMDDYYYY from a DDMMYYYY. Is there some international standard date format custom that I should know about that will relieve my confusion? To make this more "on topic"... may I also suggest using the Month's given name rather than it's number whenever we announce meetings? Hehe. It would be really helpful, I think, for those of us who are dating system confused. Alternativity (talk) 20:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Day-month is more common in Europe while month-day is more common in the United States. In the Philippines, both are quite commonplace, although month-day is more prevalent in English usage (in Filipino usage, the preferred format is supposed to be day-month, but many people commonly use month-day). --Sky Harbor 00:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

YYYYMMDD is actually an ISO standard format. I personally use YYYY-MM-DD (also part of that ISO standard) when I want a compact date format. --seav (talk) 02:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

People it's already 20:00 (that's 8:00). Let's get it started. -- Felipe Aira 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Dugaya ui. Muoli na lang ko ani sa balay ron wala pa makastart. Mga pinoy gyud. =) --Efe (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm already online. But three Wikipedians are on "I'm on SMS" status in YM. --seav (talk) 12:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Kaawaan natin sila. Hope they can get online. I did not wake up super-early for this. --Sky Harbor 12:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Result

I would like to thank the participants in the said YM chat conference. There were many wikipedians joined that forum and it was beyond my expectation. The participant list and ~~the actual result~~ a summary of the said discussion will be posted later by SkyHarbor. It has been agreed upon that the YM chat will continue every other Saturday at 8:00 PM (20:00) Philippine Time/ 12:00 UTC(GMT). Therefore the 2nd conference will be done on May 17, 2008. Physical meetups will be suspended until further notice or until a consensus was made in this forum or on the YM conference. Cebu will be an exception. The first meetup will be discussed in the meetup page and/or the Cebuano wiki discussion page. --Exec8 (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to leave so abruptly. Lost my connection. Suggestion on Cebu: June 23-24 is Cebu Open Source Summit... http://www.cedfit.org/announcement.php?announcement_id=32 --Nino Gonzales (talk) 09:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I think there's a chance we could be part of the presentors or booths or something similar... what do you think? I know the organizers... We could present a formal letter... something which shows that we have some significance... like the no of Philippine related articles, number of wiki projects started, etc...--Nino Gonzales (talk) 09:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait a minute...I said I wouldn't post the transcripts. I wasn't here for the entire duration! --Sky Harbor 14:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Er... I do recall Sky saying that. I don't think we agreed on this. Who WAS there for the whole duration, anyway? Alternativity (talk) 09:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I think none of us has the complete transcripts since I just found out that the default configuration of the Yahoo! Messenger is to be recording the chats/messages however it would also be deleting them after one has signed out. Don't worry I'll record the transcripts next time since I changed the settings of my YM now. -- Felipe Aira 09:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Result of the First PhilWiki Chat

Wikimedia Philippines - removed the one million peso provision in the Articles of Incorporation.
- CORRECTION: This provision was changed (per discussion of the Corporation Code) so that whatever money we raise shall be the authorized capital of WMPH until amended. --Sky Harbor 01:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Tagalog Wikipedia front page changed to Felipe Aira and AnakngAraw's design.
LGU project will be revived to focus initially on Population (Data, Growth and Density)
No clear agreement on rules on image uploads (especially in Tagalog Wikipedia).
Whether Tagalog should follow standards set up by the KWF; no consensus.I added this one since it is clear that we spent some time, a significant portion of time, just talking about this Filipino-Pilipino-Tagalog never-ending debate. -- Felipe Aira 04:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Other suggested topics were not discussed.
YM chat will continue on a regular basis every other Saturday at 8:00 PM (20:00) Philippine Time/ 12:00 UTC(GMT). Therefore the 2nd conference will be done on May 17, 2008.
Manila Physical meetups will be suspended until further notice or until a consensus was made in this forum or on the YM conference.

Posting for everybody's convenience. --Exec8 (talk) 21:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Some more points:

Usage of Wikimedia material in other websites, e.g., PNP (see [1])
A lawyer or law student is highly appreciated in the incorporation process of Wikimedia Philippines, not to give legal advice but to provide input from a legal perspective.

Attendees, in rough order of appearance:

Sky_Harbor (en, tl)
Felipe Aira (en, tl)
Bentong Isles (ceb)
Jordz (ceb)
seav (en)
Efe (en)
Exec8 (en, tl)
Jojit fb (en, tl)
TheCoffee (en)
Bluemask (en, tl)
Alternativity (en)
Emir_214 (tl)
Nino Gonzales (en)
Lenticel (en, tl)
Filipinayzd (en, bcl)

Still no ladies. :-) --seav (talk) 07:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

There was someone named mae something, right? --Nino Gonzales (talk) 07:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought Jojit was a girl. --Efe (talk) 08:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

And also Filipinayzd. And Lenticel (before. haha.) --Efe (talk) 08:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I can't invent a good neutral or masculine nickname out of it. Len, Lenti or cel = girly, Lent = mahal na araw.--09:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The person with the "mae" in his username is Efe. MAE is his initials. --seav (talk) 08:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Wooh! Thanks kuya for clarifying. I really thought that they're referring to me. Yeah guys. MAE stands for Mark Anthony Efe. To those who do not know behind my username here in WP yet, especially to Lenticel, Efe is my surname. --Efe (talk) 09:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

"Jojit" is a masculine name, maybe your thinking of "Jojie"? Exec8 had also been mistakenly identified as a female before, I think by Lenticel. --Jojit (talk) 11:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Its girlish, for me. --Efe (talk) 03:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I did :)--Lenticel ^(talk) 22:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. --Exec8 (talk) 21:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there a way to have an infobox on PhilWiki Chat and LGU Project? --Exec8 (talk) 21:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for my non-appearance, i was on vacation. --Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 01:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox as in when we actually document the conferences, the documentation page of it will have an infobox. If yes, it can be done. I'll even help in the process. Just give me the go signal. -- Felipe Aira 10:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox as in just like the one on the upper right "Previous" and "Next" for PhilWiki Chat. --Exec8 (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second Virtual meet

To make notice, it's currently going on. And I invite everyone to participate now. There's only three of us. -- Felipe Aira 12:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Articles of Incorporation

Alright...per the now-concluded meetup, the ALL-NEW, SEC-COMPLIANT Articles of Incorporation of Wikimedia Philippines is now available. You may preview the document here. A Tagalog translation is also available, and hopefully others can translate it into the other Philippine languages. --Sky Harbor 20:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Do we need to re-approve it? --Jojit (talk) 01:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it needs to be re-approved. It is a completely different document from the previous AoI. --Sky Harbor 02:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cebu Meet-up and Participation in the Open Source Summit

I moved the discussion to Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Cebu 1. --Jojit (talk) 12:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Here's a surprise!

Here's a surprise I've prepared for everyone here in the Tambayan. I've requested Kasuga if a Wikipe-tan in baro't saya can be made. The result is at the left. I never told you about this because I've intended this request as a surprise for everyone here. So I know you don't expect this. Thank Kasuga for this image. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 08:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Can we put this on the main Tambay page?-Lenticel ^(talk) 08:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure! Why not? It is an honor. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 08:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Nice huh. --Efe (talk) 08:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

How about the Tambay Roster page section. I will not do it myself since I might mess it up. Better call someone who works with templates.--Lenticel ^(talk) 08:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

When it comes to the main page, it's your call. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 08:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I've asked ViperSnake151 to help affix Wikipetan to the tambay roster.--Lenticel ^(talk) 09:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like he placed the image at the main header than the Tambay roster. That's OK because I think it's better at the main header as a welcome mat. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Region numbering

Apparently, Metro Manila, the CAR and the ARMM are regions that are numbered by the DILG, and Caraga is not in its proper numbering place:

Metro Manila: Region XIII
CAR: Region XIV
ARMM: Region XV
Caraga: Region XVI

Should we proceed with re-numbering the regions? --Sky Harbor 20:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Not yet (I think). It's too confusing, since most of the people are already confused with the regional numbering of certain Mindanao regions. Let's wait and see (for now). -iaNLOPEZ1115 · TaLKBaCK · Vandalize it 00:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

We're following the National Statistical Coordination Board's Philippine Standard Geographic Code. Caraga is Region XIII and NCR, ARMM, and CAR have no numbers. --seav (talk) 01:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I find it odd that the DILG would have their own numbering system, the NSCB has their own system, and perhaps there are also other region numbering systems. Which one is considered more canonical? --Sky Harbor 12:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

NSCB has the authority in terms of statistical standards that all government agencies should follow [2][3], therefore PSGC is official and more canonical. --Jojit (talk) 09:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Dangnabbit, this government is a mess. Can't even have consistent nomenclature. !($&#(&$!) Sorry, I know it's not very productive, but I'm turning red with frustration...Alternativity (talk) 18:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Benjamin "Kokoy" Romualdez

Does anyone one were I can find biographical data of Benjamin "Kokoy" Romualdez, the brother of Imelda Marcos? He was an influential man during the Marcos period, but I can't seem to find simple things like date and place of birth. I found that he was the governor of Leyte and ambassador to the US, Saudi-Arabia and China, but no information on when this exactly was. I did however find a lot of information about court cases against him for acquiring wealth during the Marcos period. Magalhães (talk) 07:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

September, 24 1936 according to this site no idea if this is reliable though.--Lenticel ^(talk) 09:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I also found that site, but I don't think it is correct, because have read in the Book "Imelda Marcos, The steelbutterfly of the Philippines", that their mother died shortly after having here sixth child in 1937 or 1938, and it also stated that Benjamin was the second child after Imelda. This would be biological impossible ;) Magalhães (talk) 11:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gerald Gonzalez, again...

OK, we've warned him several times, he sock-puppeted, and now, he's harassing me at YouTube, with derogatory, anti-WP:CIVIL messages against me. I've blocked him from contacting me, but still, he's harassing me, and I've reported him at YT but the admins there didn't seem to respond. Any suggestions? Can you guys please ban him for good? God Bless and have a nice day... Blake Gripling (talk) 10:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

It depends on the severity of the issue. What is it about, first? Perhaps some of the Pinoy admins can act (and quickly). --Sky Harbor 12:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

His fanboyism of Angel Locsin, that's all. His fanboyism with the actress led him to do persistent POV pushing, using multiple usernames... Blake Gripling (talk) 00:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ehhh...this is why I wish there was a concrete policy on fanboyism (there is, but there should be one specifically for the Philippine community since fanboyism is that bad here among Filipino contributors). I'll see what I can do...the admins usually read this, so they should be able to act. I'm not an admin on the English Wikipedia, although if it were the Tagalog Wikipedia, then that's a different story ;). --Sky Harbor 00:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. There are times where I get so pissed off at teeny-boppers who are so fanboyish at, let's say Kim Chiu and/or Gerald Anderson that they would do anything just to express their fannish love for their idols, one of which involves adding unnecessary, fancrufty POV edits and/or personal opinion about the article's subject - akala nila kasi, hindi porket free encyclopedia ang WP eh OK lang mag-dagdag ng kung ano ano tungkol kay Kim at Gerald - ayan, na-block tuloy... Blake Gripling (talk) 06:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

We're quite lucky. Look at the edits at the Jonas Borhters and Miley Cyrus articles & talkpages. They'll dwarf "our" unknown fanboys anyday. If not, we'll have to nominate another Pinoy Wikipedian in here (the English Wikipedia) just to complement TheCoffee (and keep those nasty fanboys out of editing "seryosong" articles).

Do you want to go to the Admins' Noticeboard day by day, just for nothing, or are you going to get a RfA so you can send the message that I mean fancruft-made stupidity by unknown fanboys (and fangirls) is not allowed!

Sure, I can have a big crush on Rihanna. But that alone can't make me write up fancruft on her article (or even on her article's talkpage)! We all love to "glorify" the people (or group of people) we love (whether in real life or just fiction). Or even bash them, as some Wikipedians and unknown users did to the "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" article and talkpage. but we have a duty of maintaining Wikipedia as a great source of information, not as a fan site, nor as a personal site!

I WISH THAT THEY CAN JUST READ "WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS NOT". I'd like to bash them here, but the rules here don't allow me that kinda thing.

Postscript: That part about Rihanna being my crush is complete bollocks. Napapadamay pa din siya diyan. =iaNLOPEZ1115 · TaLKBaCK · Vandalize it 09:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Just a reminder, stay cool and retaliating against the vandals is useless. -- Felipe Aira 10:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Was your identity compromised? --Howard the Duck 12:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Howard, are you talking to me about that? (Seriously, my account ain't compromised.) -iaNLOPEZ1115 · TaLKBaCK · Vandalize it 02:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC) If you're talking about another Filipino Wikipedian, then it's another story altogether.

I was referring to Blake but this is should raise concern for everybody. --Howard the Duck 04:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Besides, whether it's inside or outside of Wikipedia, there are times that I get pissed off at those fanboys who are sooooooo into with Kim and Gerald or whoever that is... Blake Gripling (talk) 06:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

The Kimerald controversy is long-running and spans several Wikipedias (believe me, the Tagalog Wikipedia has this problem too, probably Cebuano too). Fanboyism is not that hard to revert, but it is hard to teach people what Wikipedia is and what it is not. I'd like to see a "Wiki 101" course when WMPH is incorporated as one of its first projects. --Sky Harbor 16:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, agreed. Just like what I said earlier, they think WP is everything and it's OK to spill your fanaticism of your fave "love team" here. This is a something that I find rawther crappy, seriously... Blake Gripling (talk) 23:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lance...

Read this. =) --Efe (talk) 07:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I already reported him. It seems as though he's trying to turn WP into his own blog, judging from the journal-like edits... Blake Gripling (talk) 07:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Its like he do not know what Wiki is. Forgiven... Haha. Nice story, erotic. ;) --Efe (talk) 08:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Correct. A noob... Blake Gripling (talk) 08:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ginoo... just a warning guys, before you take a look at this... it's a (tagalog) gay boy's unabashed journal... --Nino Gonzales (talk) 08:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

yah. He's tagalog. Binasa ko nga eh. Maganda. Haha. --Efe (talk) 08:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

It is, but of course, as Wikipedians, we treat such stuff as unencyclopedic - in other words, vandalism... That journal of his should be posted elsewhere, not here... Blake Gripling (talk) 08:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, the article is currently notable, edited mostly by fans, and that edit was reverted outrighly. No worries. And besides, its an IP. --Efe (talk) 09:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The content is not even that appropriate for most blogs (LJ would disapprove of this for sure, Blogger has the "report inappropriate content" feature). This would be better on an i.ph blog. --Sky Harbor 16:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of finances

We need to discuss the following in preparation for the incorporation of WMPH:

Which bank to open with
How much money we need
Other business

The pertinent discussion is here. --Sky Harbor 20:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I prefer BDO over Landbank. Putting stuff on a gov't bank isn't a very good idea.--Lenticel ^(talk) 14:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd like BDO because they are open on weekends, but Landbank has a lower minimum balance requirement than the other banks. That's with consideration that it is the fourth-largest bank in the Philippines. Then again, I maintain my accounts with BDO. --Sky Harbor 15:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we'd have a problem with a GOCC, just as long as we can easily open a corporate checking account. --Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 18:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I wish. Haha. Anyway, for everyone, here's a comparison of some of the banks that we can open with (and their minimum balance requirements, of course):

Landbank: P20,000 (lowest)
Banco de Oro: P25,000 (open on weekends)
Allied Bank: P25,000
Security Bank: P25,000
Metrobank: P35,000
UCPB: P40,000
RCBC: P50,000 (highest)
BPI: P50,000 (highest)

Also, how will we accept donations? And by the way, I hope your pledges are still valid. --Sky Harbor 16:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

My pledge still stands.. --Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 17:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like I might make a cash pledge. I've been thinking around the line of P3000, but I'm not sure yet. Maybe when my finances are in order. --Sky Harbor 01:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Maguindanao towns

Four new municipalities are to be established/have been established in Maguindanao: Datu Salibo, Shariff Tibungog, Datu Hofer and Adam. [4] [5] [6] [7]--Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 18:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eastwood City Population

Does anyone have statistics on the population of Eastwood City?

1) What is the composition (i.e. residents, employees, corporate, tourists, young, old)? 2) What is the projected population at completion?

Or can anyone point me to the right direction?

Thanks.

Curilan (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

My best bet is you either ask Megaworld or you check which barangays make up Eastwood City, then combine their populations together. Or ask QC City Hall. --Sky Harbor 15:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Eastwood City is within Barangay Bagumbayan, Quezon City. It's not a political unit (referring to Eastwood City), hence it will be difficult to estimate its population. --Scorpion prinz ^{(Talk | contribs)} 01:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Then I stand by my point: ask Megaworld. --Sky Harbor 02:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WMPH: Moving forward (a pseudo-manifesto)

If campaigning isn't enough to stoke interest in Wikimedia Philippines, a pseudo-manifesto should do it. A copy is available here. Likewise, I will provide a Tagalog translation, and people are free to translate it into other Philippine languages. --Sky Harbor 20:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Note: Tagalog translation available here. --Sky Harbor 21:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I just personally invited all the participants through this template. I hope that would be enough information campaign to get WMPH moving. We should start voting in a day or two. --Jojit (talk) 04:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Judicial Executive Legislative Advisory and Consultative Council (JELAC)

Please expand and contribute to this article I just created. --Florentino floro (talk) 11:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2nd PhilWiki Virtual Meeting

What: 2nd PhiliWiki YM Chat/Conference

Date: May 17, 2007 (Saturday)

Time: 12:00 UTC/GMT (8:00 PM Philippine Time, 8:00 AM Eastern US Time) until 17:00 UTC/GMT (1:00 AM Philippine Time, 1:00 PM Eastern US Time)

Platform: Yahoo Messenger (web messenger and Windows Live wont work)

[edit] UP Sigma Rho

Can an admin semi-protect this? An anon insists on removing validly cited information, even saying that the Philippine Daily Inquirer is a tabloid. --Howard the Duck 09:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It's the same anon, I think it is better to block him rather than protect the page.--Lenticel ^(talk) 09:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Then an admin should do his thing. --Howard the Duck 09:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It seems that the user really likes you Howard, should we file for checkuser or post on WP:ANI?--Lenticel ^(talk) 04:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser is only used in extreme cases and only for sockpuppet cases with clear evidences. Go to ANI if the abuse continues. --seav (talk) 04:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, let's see if he'll make more disruptive edits so we could make a case.--Lenticel ^(talk) 05:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: The article is semi-protected for 1 week so the problem is solved for now.--Lenticel ^(talk) 09:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd prefer a full-protect since he already has a username. --Howard the Duck 09:53, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

How about reporting his next disruptive activity at WP:AIV? He'll get blocked from editing for sure. — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• ^Speak! 02:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay will do, nice siggy Kurt.--Lenticel ^(talk) 04:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

It's called LЭЭn, a combination of LЭЭt and Latin. lolz! =) — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• ^Speak! 04:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pupung

I'm currently in the process of creating an article for the comic strip Pupung. The first draft is in my sandbox right now. While I have all nine Pupung compilations and three "Lolo Dom" comics, I can also use some help, especially on its style of humor. It's not done yet as I'll put the list of characters, etc. on it. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 15:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hermogenes Esperon

Anyone interested in helping out this article? — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• ^Speak! 03:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UPLB

Hi, i need some help with the UPLB page. Specifically, i need online references that show that the following journals have been accredited by thomson scientific - The Philippine Entomologist (Department of Entomology, College of Agriculture), Philippine Journal of Crop Science (UPLB-Crop Science Society of the Philippines), Asia Life Sciences (Institute of Biological Sciences, College of Arts and Sciences) and Philippine Journal of Veterinary Medicine (College of Veterinary Medicine). I have a credible source, but so far we havent found any online references yet. Joe_fob

Your credible source may be enough. Are those hard copies of the journals themselves? — •KvЯt GviЯnЭlБ• ^Speak! 02:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Result of the 2nd PhilWiki Chat

Date: May 17, 2008
Time: 8:00 PM to 12:25 AM of May 18 (12:00 - 16:25 UTC May 17, 2008)

Participants

Sky_Harbor (en, tl)
Exec8 (en, tl)
Felipe Aira (en, tl)
Jojit fb (en, tl)
Nino Gonzales (en, ceb)
Lenticel (en, tl)
Emperork (en)
Titopao (en)
seav (en)

Discussion

Cebu Meetup
- Things are being ironed out for the Philippine Wikimedia Community in Cebu to organize a meetup during the sidelines of the first Philippine Open Source Summit on June 23 and June 24, 2008 at the Cebu International Convention Center (CICC) in Mandaue City. Wikipedians in the Central Visayas area are encouraged to participate. It will be lead by Nino Gonzales. For more information visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Cebu_1.
Wikimedia Philippines
- Articles of Incorporation is already posted in this meta site. For additional inputs visit this link.
- Bank account - still deciding to what to choose. Type of account: Interest-bearing Current Account
  - Landbank: based on this site. It has an advantage as does not require a certificate from the SEC and they accept groups using the term "CORPORATION IN THE PROCESS OF INCORPORATION", as well as it has a more spread-out branch network that can cater to potential members in more outlying provincial areas (in some areas, Landbank is the only major bank). However, it has a smaller branch network (300+ branches), is subject to the same schedule as a regular bank (Monday-Friday, 9:00 am-3:00 pm PST) and, as we all know, it's a GOCC.
  - Banco de Oro has an advantage in terms of having a larger branch network (695 and counting), availability (weekends and after work hours) and deposit safety (can deposit money in SM malls). However, it does not have branches outside major cities in areas outside Metro Manila, and we will need to verify if this bank offers the same term "corporation in the process of incorporation". If not, SEC registration needs to be accomplished first.
  - Need to raise amount to deposit. As discussed in the AoI forum, If Landbank is selected P20,000 needs to be deposited. If its Banco de Oro, its P25,000.
- Corporate Name.
  - Organization Name Wikimedia Philippines has been reserved by this community in the Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission. For details visit philwiki at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/philwiki/
- Roadmap of creating an organization is shown on this site. But we will stop at step 6 and go for DSWD registration as step 7 and BIR taxpayer registration for step 8.
- The principal office of WMPH will be based in the City of Manila.

Public Domain and Fair Use Issue
- It has been found that uploading images from Philippine government websites, though its a work of the government which is public domain, can be questioned due to lack of the "Terms of Use" policy link. To add more confusion an overwhelming majority of all National government and LGU websites use a tag "Copyright 2008" or "All Rights Reserved 2008". It is highly recommended for websites to include this website link to avoid plagiarism by some outlets like book publishers, print, TV media companies. If they wish to open the site for public domain, they should drop the "Copyright" or "All Rights Reserved" tag and display "Public Domain" and will be free-for-all use. But if they wish to add restrictions over public domain, they should provide a "Terms of Use" link. A detailed discussion on U.S. public domain is posted on http://www.cendi.gov/publications/04-4website_policy.html
- Due to an absence of an executive order or a law that will define the "Terms of Use" policy, this community will never use the "Philippine Public Domain" tag for images, documents, and multimedia sourced from government websites and fair use tag plus a fair use rationale and source link will be placed on the summary line. "Philippine Public Domain" will only be applicable for independent website who digitized any philippine publication printed before 1958.
- Efforts are underway to look for ways to lobby lawmakers and/or government executives to look into the public domain provision in the Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines.

LGU Project
- No discussion in particular due to absence of resource users like seav (no response in chat) and scorpion_prinz (offline)

Tagalog Wikipedia and Philippine Article in English Wikipedia Improvement Drive
- No discussion

That's it. --Exec8 (talk) 19:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

And also the transcripts before I left is here at Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines/VM3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Felipe Aira (talk • contribs) 01:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 3rd PhilWiki Chat

Due to time constraints, most users cant make in the 8:00 PM chat so I propose (1.) users to actively participate in the Tambayan Philippines talk page if they have something to raise in our discussions. (2.) Select an earlier time and different day.

Date: June 1, 2008 (Sunday)
Time: 5:00 PM Philippine Time (9:00 UTC/GMT)
Platform: Yahoo Messenger

Your comments are highly appreciated. --Exec8 (talk) 19:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't around the 2nd time since I'm busy (real life concerns) and I'm reviewing for UPCAT at that time. There is a 56% chance that I'll be part of the 3rd PhilWiki chat. -iaNLOPEZ1115 · TaLKBaCK · Vandalize it 03:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)na.

Di kelangan review sa UPCAT, basta me sagot ka lang sa lahat ng questions okay n. (joke)--Lenticel ^(talk) 04:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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