Wikipedia talk:Teahouse/Host lounge
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I am thoroughly confused. I cannot find myself anywhere in the host listings, either active or on break. In addition, there are several hosts that are listed multiple times. Is there a problem? I hope I didn't get fired and somebody forgot to tell me! Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:48, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- J-Mo, I've noticed the "multiple listings" bug myself. I'm unsure why you are not there Gtwfan52, but am wondering if it has anything to do with HostBot. Technical 13 (talk) 12:24, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- This happened to me as well, and while at first I thought it was because I changed my username, I think my profile had been gone long before that. I've since added myself back in. I, JethroBT drop me a line 17:24, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- So, you're saying HostBot is both EATING and CLONING people?!?! Bad robot. I've tried to fix this bug before actually. It's intermittent, so it's been tricky to hunt down. I thought I fixed it a few months ago... evidently no such luck. I've halted the profile moving scripts and am looking into it now. Sorry about that, y'all. I'll post here with updates. - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 23:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Refactoring the host list
Starting a new thread since this applies equally to three of the threads above. I'm reconfiguring the way HostBot shuffles our profiles around on the host profile page, to fix a persistent bug that caused profiles to be sometimes duplicated, sometimes deleted when as they were moved to and from the breakroom. I worked on trying to fix the bug directly for quite a while, but couldn't guarantee it wouldn't pop up again (TL;DR HostBot uses both the API and a replica MySQL database to move profiles between the two pages, and these two resources are sometimes very slightly out-of-sync, which I believe is what caused the weird cloning/deleting issue). So, what I propose to do is just simplify things a bunch:
- From now on, all our host profiles stay on the host landing page.
- They will be ranked based on how many edits a given host has made to Teahouse pages within the past two weeks, leaderboard-style. Those who haven't edited recently will be randomly ranked below active editors.
This should prevent the duplication/removal issue completely, because the bot will only be moving profiles around within the same page. At the same time, it still assures that active hosts get top billing, which I think is important because the majority of people who have created profiles aren't actively hosting right now. It also obviates the need for checking in, and takes the breakroom out of the picture completely, so I plan to decommission those pages. I've tested this out in my sandbox: that page currently contains a list of all profiles from the landing host page and the breakroom (as of a few days ago), ranked by # TH edits within the past two weeks (also as of a few days ago). There are a few small bugs to work out: for example, I, JethroBT has changed his username since he became a host, and so my db table needs to be updated before it recognizes his recent edits and ranks his profile appropriately. But in general this should be a simpler solution.
What do you all think? The other option is I paste this merged list to the landing page by hand, and we just manually curate the list from now on--no bot involved.
To all of you who had to re-create your profile, sometimes repeatedly, when HostBot pulled its vanishing act, my apologies again for the confusion and the hassle. :) - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 20:05, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Endorse This seems like a straightforward way to sidestep this bug, and I think newer editors will still find it relatively easy to find active hosts even with the breakroom out of the picture. Thanks, J-Mo! I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Support - Go ahead with it. -- t numbermaniac c 21:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yup Short of making an all new profile (which would be sad, cause I have lost that neat pic of the cat (MY cat, that sadly went to my ex in our divorce)), I have not been able to get myself back in the listings. Whatever works! Gtwfan52 (talk) 05:38, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- You mean this adorable kitteh, Gtwfan52? ;) Reminder: you can always, always get your profile back. Just hit up the revision history of the landing page and pick a date shortly after your joined TH. I'm enabling the new less-sucky ranking system today... Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 19:37, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Suggest removal of a host profile
- Go for it. Project members routinely cull the host profiles page when editors who don't have enough experience, etc. create a profile. For editors who don't have enough experience, I usually leave a message on their talk page explaining the removal. For this editor, that's probably not as necessary. - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 21:56, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Some sad news
User:Jackson Peebles is no longer with us, he passed away in late October. Jackson was a Western Michigan University Honors student studying behavioral science and biology. He worked as an ice hockey referreee and volunteered with the Red Cross. His Wikipedia efforts focused on counter-vandalism and adoption, "greeting new users, encouraging civility, and [obsessively] reviewing recent changes".
Jackson was a Teahouse host, an instructor in the Education Program, and the lead on a Video Tutorials Project through the WMF. User:Go Phightins! originaly adopted Jackson but he went on to run his own adoption school and facilitated a Western Michigan University course himself. Among his userboxes he said, "This user is not a Wikipedia administrator but would like to be one someday."
Jackson was born in 1992 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. He graduated Mattawan High School and was Senior Class President there. At Western Michigan University, he was a 2011 Medallion Scholar. He worked at the Waldo Library at the reference desk and volunteered for the National Alliance for Mental Illness. He was one of three students in the nation invited to represent the US at the International Red Cross and Red Crescent’s Global Youth Conference in Vienna in 2012.
Jackson had recently proposed a WMF Individual Engagment Grant called Reimagining Wikipedia Mentorship. "I think this project is incredibly important and should be pursued," User:EpochFail wrote in an endorsement. The grant scored highly, solid 4 out of 5 and looked likely to be funded. "A very interesting concept...may become a 'keystone piece' in the new editor onboarding process." wrote one IEG committee member. Another wrote, "Taking a 'Teahouse approach' in building sustained motivation and preventing editor dropouts is a wonderful opportunity to develop a true mentor-mentee support system that would increase the activity of new contributors." Finally, "Proposers are highly qualified and driven mentors with a useful background in teaching new editors and understanding the learning process."
On Wikipedia, Jackson earned barnstars in Mentorship, Random Acts of Kindness and Resilience. Friends and teachers glowingly recalled his sense of humor and his hard work ethic.
His last edit to our site was on October 21 2013, the day he died. Jackson welcomed an i.p. editor to Wikipedia: "Thank you for your contributions, such as the one you made to Nikah mut‘ah. I hope you like the place and decide to stay."