Wikipedia talk:The Heymann Standard

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I have just seen this. The degree of an expansion of the article was a particularly high one. It represents a true expansion, not a mere improvement, and , and many articles have been kept after substantial, but much small improvements. I do not think the term should be "standard" and I propose to replace it with "level" and adjust the text to incorporate what I am saying here. I'm going to look for an example ofthe modest improvements which are typically needed to provide the necessary N V and RSs.

It's an essay, I drafted it with the Heymann article in mind, and anyone who chooses to refer to this is probably looking for a real sign of improvement and expansion.. !Voters at afd are free to make up their own minds so I don't think rewording is really necessary, it would change the spirit of the piece and in terms of articles being deleted or expanded would be unlikely to have much impact. Your attention might be better focussed at WP:N or WP:BIO. Deizio talk 09:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
As someone who frequently tries to do improvements on articles up for deletion --though to a somewhat less impressive degree-- I reworded slightly, but I think in the spirit DGG (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Relevance and coherence[edit]

I don't want to sound too harsh, but this doesn't really make sense. "Heymann Standard" suggests a unit, an amount. And indeed it's described in such terms. But it's not used that way, at least in the example and the usage I've seen. If you're just saying, "This needs a Heymann Standard," that's practically a non sequitur. It would make more sense to say "such and such needs to happen, that's my Heymann Standard here." The bullet points at the end are practically peacock terms praising editors who quote this essay. It reads like someone was trying to hard to make a "thing." Last year, the essay was cited a total of four times in deletion debates. Not that that's a reason to delete or anything. My essay only had three. But I strongly suspect the fact that this essay doesn't make much sense and the fact that it's infrequently quoted are related. I'd like to see it improved. Hey, I just desire to see quality content on Wikipedia. (I'm also baffled by the redirect Wikipedia:KERRRZAPPP, which may be worth a trip to RFD.) --BDD (talk) 16:30, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thinking about it some more, is a Heymann Standard the amount that the Heymann article itself was improved? --BDD (talk) 06:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)