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How to add a default field to a reference template?[edit]

I went to edit a reference and add an accessdate. In {{cite web}}, accessdate isn't one of the default values that comes up in VE, and it really should be. How would I make a field one of the default fields to fill in? - David Gerard (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey, David. What do you mean, it's not one of the default values that comes up in VE? "URL access date" is the 4th field I see when I try to add Cite web manually through the Cite template. (Citoid autofills that field, instead). --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
For existing references, click on Add more information while in the template inspector: URL access date is the 2nd item there. HTH, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I did that. I thought it should appear by default. I assume then that for existing references, it just shows what values have already been filled in, not any that should be there but aren't? - David Gerard (talk) 18:26, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi again, generally speaking, that is not a required parameter - it's a suggested one. So if those with the asterisk didn't all show up immediately, that would be an issue, IMHO. It seems to me that the params are showing up in a certain order in the dialog, and suggested ones do appear before optional ones. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
OK, if it's all as designed that's fine :-) - David Gerard (talk) 17:42, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Getting really good. Citoid suggestions[edit]

I am an experienced, 10 years, Top 100 most active contributors, and I am more and more impressed with your progress. Good job. In particular, your recent Citoid is excellent; it does a much better job than http://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/ . It is, however, not as intuitive as it could be. It activates if you click the button, but it is missing from the pull down list next to it. I just spend one minute remembering how to access it - I was looking for it on the pull down menu. So I suggest that at minimum, you add it to the pull down list; or combine the both into one. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:23, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, @Piotrus:! I appreciate the praise from you. I know the problem you noticed (about the menu) is filed as a bug, though I don't have the # offhand. We're also making it more clear by replacing the icon (which was confusing for many users in user testing) with the word "cite" to make it easier to remember. —Luis V. (WMF) (talk)
This might be the related bug, also note the other Design work mentioned there. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)