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List of large aircraft and Template:Giant aircraft nominated for deletion[edit]


We seem to have a COI editor determined to sanitize this article. Warnings are being ignored, so some additional eyes on it would be helpful! - Ahunt (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Airbus A340[edit]

Can someone comment on this article? I've gone to lengths to get sources and justification for my edits, but another editor is adament that it is unsourced. JacksonRiley (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks like this more a case of adding content that gives undue weight or repeats info already covered in the article. -Fnlayson (talk) 23:51, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
It's not that sources haven't been provided so much as the content added is not supported by the sources and thus represents WP:OR. The weight factor also comes into it. Tweaking the A340 article into a sales pitch for Boeing seems to be the thrust of these changes. --Pete (talk) 23:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Not a sales pitch, the A340 has already been out of production for a few years. In fact some of these editors' content is an oversimplification of the sources, not least deleting sources as well. JacksonRiley (talk) 00:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Looks like only redundant lower quality sources and sources in the Lead have been removed. Try editing the text instead of doing whole-sale reverts. Discuss specifics on the A340 talk page. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
"A sales pitch for Boeing", I said, JR. Don't try to get my goat, it won't work. What will work is that I'll lose my assumption of good faith on your part. --Pete (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Airbus A340 dispute[edit]

Can other editors comment on this dispute? JacksonRiley (talk) 14:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

When to recategorize an article from "Category:Proposed aircraft of..." to "Category:Aircraft of..."?[edit]

At what point in the development history of a new aircraft type should the article's category be changed from "Proposed aircraft of..." to "Aircraft of..."? Should it happen when the prototype first flies, at certification, or only when series production begins? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:31, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The Oxford Dictionary defines an aircraft as "An aeroplane, helicopter, or other machine capable of flight". [1] On that basis, one would have to suggest that (avoiding crystal-ball gazing) as soon as the prototype has flown would be the appropriate time to change the category. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Conceivably once it's been built and sitting on its tyres. It could also be argued once they first take a pair of tin snips to a sheet of aluminium it's no longer proposed but actual (if unfinished). If they then down tools it could go in "cancelled aircraft of..." GraemeLeggett (talk) 11:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, the plane I have in mind has already begun prototype flight testing so it is a "actual" rather than "proposed" aircraft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
The consensus through useage is "when it flies". - The Bushranger One ping only 04:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

SNCASE SE.3200 Frelon[edit]

SNCASE SE.3200 Frelon is quite poorly written, and cites a single source in French. I'm not sure the source is reliable. Does anyone have any reliable sources to add to the article? This is the helicopter that led to the Aérospatiale Super Frelon. - BilCat (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

It looks like a rather rough translation, I'm afraid my Google-fu has failed to find good English sources online - so who here has a Jane's on their bookshelf? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Plundering the Flight archive is my usual approach - eg [2] [3] [4] [5] GraemeLeggett (talk) 11:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/A380 Fuel System[edit]

Dear aircraft experts: This abandoned AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable fuel system? Should the article be kept and improved, merged with the Airbus A380 (the article says it may be used in other craft as well), or is there a serious problem with it that makes it not worth keeping at all? —Anne Delong (talk) 19:17, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

This does not seem notable/significant enough for a separate article to me. That article seems largely uncited. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:25, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
No objection to deletion. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 22:44, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree, this shouldn't be a separate article. - Ahunt (talk) 16:28, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay; it is gone. Thanks for checking. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Lead photo discussion at Aero L-39 Albatros[edit]

We are having a debate of the best photo to use as the info box image for this article. Interested editors are welcome to voice their opinions at Talk:Aero_L-39_Albatros#Lead_Image to help achieve a consensus on the matter! - Ahunt (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

EcoJet AFD[edit]

EcoJet has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EcoJet. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 15:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Notification of nomination for deletion of ALR Piranha[edit]

This is to inform the members of this Wikiproject, within the scope of which this article falls, that this article has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ALR Piranha. - Ahunt (talk) 17:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)