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[edit] Eastern Agricultural Complex

Without much knowledge and with some Google Scholar poking I have the impression this article needs an update (how this hypothesis is seen by contemporary research) and expansion (history of the hypothesis, archeological evidence, etc). See alse my question and answers at the Reference Desk.[1]

--Pjacobi (talk) 06:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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[edit] Perception

Dear all,

I’ve been trying to help folks who were trying to articulate the latest knowledge on Perception article, but my suggestions did not help much. On top of that, some little egos managed to erode even that little clarity we had.

I have decided, therefore, to simply rewrite the article on the basis of currently available knowledge in the following disciplines: cognitive and developmental psychology, medicine (especially genetics), anthropology, sociology, philosophy and complex (adaptive) systems theory with emphasised references to non-monotonic logics. I am contemplating few other disciplines, but these will suffice for the beginning.

I have drafted the lead into the article and the draft can be found on the related discussion page. I am calling now for comments and contributions backed by the latest science and the latest contemporary philosophical thought. My only condition is clarity and brevity wherever possible. If you find other possible references, they will be welcomed too.

Kind regards, Damir Ibrisimovic (talk) 22:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Netnography still needs work

As mentioned in Archive 4, the page Netnography is in desperate need of expert attention. Any help you can offer in terms of re-writing, sourcing, etc. would be appreciated. Cnilep (talk) 19:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Migrationism

Please take a look at my comments (and chime in if you will) there where I note that we have Trans-cultural diffusion, Demic diffusion, Invasion theory andAcculturation[2] (at least), all related aspects of archaeological theory although they don't all link to each other (eg Trans-cultural diffusion despite having an external link to an article with the title "Diffusionism and Acculturation" doesn't have a link to Acculturation and vice versa). I also think that all these articles should have both the Wikiproject Archaeology and the Wikiproject Anthropology templates on their talk pages, does anyone disagree? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC) C)

[edit] Requested Move Of Genesis Creation Myth

here Thank you For you time Weaponbb7 (talk)

[edit] Notification regarding Wikipedia-Books

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As detailed in last week's Signpost, WikiProject Wikipedia books is undertaking a cleanup all Wikipedia books. Particularly, the {{saved book}} template has been updated to allow editors to specify the default covers of the books. Title, subtitle, cover-image, and cover-color can all be specified, and an HTML preview of the cover will be generated and shown on the book's page (an example of such a cover is found on the right). Ideally, all books in Category:Book-Class Anthropology articles should have covers.

If you need help with the {{saved book}} template, or have any questions about books in general, see Help:Books, Wikipedia:Books, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, or ask me on my talk page. Also feel free to join WikiProject Wikipedia-Books, as we need all the help we can get.

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[edit] Denisova hominin

There's a content dispute at Denisova hominin. It has been reported that the issue of whether the subject might be a hybrid or not will resolved by nuclear DNA testing, but reporting this in the article has become an issue. Your opinions would be helpful. --Michael C. Price talk 07:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Knowledgable editors needed

Here - the article on "Ssexual Orientation" needs work - couple of editors have recently pointed this out, but the discussion really needs fresh views. Currently the article is strongly biased toards psychology (and debates between psychologists and a fringe group promoted by Christians that claims that homosexuality is a psychological disorder). I have nothing against psychology, but it is only one approach ... the whole idea that sexual orientation may be socially constructed, or take fundamentally different forms in different cultures is missing (because claims that it is not innate and fixed are interpreted as promoting the views of that fringe group that says homosexuality can be remedied). And debates outside of academe are not covered, either. And the article is organized in such a way that it is hard to know even how these other views might be incorporated. In short, it needs attention. I am not looking for one hero to do a complete overhaul of the article; I am hoping that many different editors can work together, each making small changes, that will eventually turn this into something that reflects the full range of major approaches and views and explains differences and debates. Slrubenstein | Talk 08:34, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Missing topics

I've updated my list of missing topics related to ethnic andother groups - Skysmith (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Australopithecus sediba

There's a big problem at Australopithecus sediba. It claims to be either an ancestor of H. habilis, or just H. erectus. This claim makes it appear that the genus Homo is a composite grouping with multiple lineages and no root species... how is that even a single genus?

65.94.253.16 (talk) 04:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment

I have proposed merging Ashkenazi intelligence to Ashkenazi Jews. Weigh in at, Talk:Ashkenazi intelligence. Also in particular, weigh in on one user's points, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ashkenazi_intelligence#More_sociology.2C_less_biology.21 I thought his line of questioning needed more discussion. ScienceApe (talk) 19:42, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment at Talk:Judaism regarding the term "religion"

Please see the following request for comment. Talk:Judaism#Should_the_term_.22religion.22_appear_descriptively_in_the_first_sentence.3F. Input would be much appreciated.Griswaldo (talk) 04:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Marriage

This article is rated of high importance to this wikiproject, but I think it is abysmal by anthropological standards. Apparently there was some edit warring over the lead, as there is a notice to discuss all proposed changes on the talk page. I left a suggestion here but this really need the input of anthropologists. I hope many of you will look at my post, make alternative suggestions or improve upon it, but help me insist that the article not start with a blatantly Eurocentric bias. Slrubenstein | Talk 21:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligence Citations Bibliography for Articles Related to IQ Testing

I see that several articles that mention IQ testing more or less prominently are within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology. You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 23:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Need some expertise for a Peer review

As part of Wikipedia:Peer review/Barefoot/archive1, while considering the scope of Barefoot and Footwear, I found that there was evidence from 500,000 years ago. This appears to be when Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis diverged from a common ancestor. So I concluded that I'm out of my depth and the review needs some expertise. --Philcha (talk) 21:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Help wanted

I just started the article List of countries by first human settlement. I think it could be a really useful and fun page, but it will be a lot of work; the most challenging part is finding reliable sources. Any help would be much appreciated. Lampman (talk) 14:56, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment on the reliability of Fox News.

There is a ongoing debate on whether the Fox News channel can be used as a prima facie reliable source on Wikipedia. Please participate in it here at This RfC. Donald Schroeder JWH018 (talk) 19:56, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] It would be a good idea to look at Lewontin's Fallacy, which I have just tagged for POV.

I see the article Lewontin's Fallacy seems to give huge emphasis to one little cited paper disagreeing with Lewontin, which, unless I am completely mistaken, is undue weight on a minority position in the relevant disciplines. Please check the article and see how well source and how neutral it is. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Linguistic anthropology

Last month, I converted the references on Linguistic anthropology from parentheticals to footnotes, to make the page consistent with Biological anthropology, Cultural anthropology, and Social anthropology. At that time, I also suggested that the 'Further reading' section should be reduced from 34 items to no more than 10. In the month since, I have heard no objections, but also few suggestions for which items should be retained. One editors suggested "books that are intended for people new to the field," but no one else commented.

Yesterday I placed the long list in a comment, making it invisible to readers. I copied seven introductory texts outside the comment so they are visible.

Comments on whether to reduce the list, and if so what items the short list should contain, are welcome at Talk:Linguistic anthropology#Notes, References, Further reading. Thanks, Cnilep (talk) 14:11, 27 August 2010 (UTC)





[edit] Notice of ArbCom decision on Race and intelligence and related articles

The Arbitration Commmittee case on race and intelligence has just been decided. Thus articles that are either in the Race and intelligence controversy category or mentioned in the findings of the 2010 Arbitration Committee case on Race and intelligence or closely related to those are subject to active arbitration remedies that you may wish to review. The case decision seems to have resulted in an immediate improvement in the editing environment of several articles that previously were very contentious. Peaceful, collaborative editing that turns to sources and upholds Wikipedia policy is enjoyable editing. I thought I should let participants on this WikiProject know that this improved atmosphere now exists, because some of the articles related to that case have long been marked as part of this project. Your participation in editing those articles is welcomed and encouraged. You can look up sources to help improve articles in the source lists I have been compiling to share with all Wikipedians. And because the source lists span several different topics, and those topics fit quite a few articles in this WikiProject in whole or in part, suggesting new sources would be a very kind thing to do. The atmosphere has improved a lot, so the articles can improve a lot. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

It would also be kind, if you so please, to suggest sources about anthropology for expanding a newly begun source list on anthropology and related topics, which may be of help in bringing several articles in this project up to date. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Related AfD

I just nominated an Anthropology article for deletion. If I am wrong please say so. Thanks. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Africoid peoples Jaque Hammer (talk) 22:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 00:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Anthropology articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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[edit] Polygamy

I found it odd that Talk:Polygamy does not mention the article being part of the this wikiproject, as I would expect this to be the primary wikiproject concerned with the entry. Can someone have a look into this? More eyes from people here would be welcome there as well. The entry appears to be very US centric, and appears to attract most of its attention from people interested in the practices of Mormon fundamentalists. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 16:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I've added the template (does its position matter?). Dougweller (talk) 16:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Doug. The entry needs serious work.Griswaldo (talk) 16:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Chilean anthropologist Wladimir Cárcamo Soto - can you help?

The article on Chilean anthropologist, Wladimir Cárcamo Soto has been tagged as an unreferenced biography of a living person since November 2008, which is the current focus month for the BLP Rescue Project. I have tried, and failed, to find reliable third party references to support the text in the article, so am posting here in the hope that someone with better knowledge of the field might like to take an interest and provide at least one source.--Plad2 (talk) 20:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments welcome on source list.

I've just recently expanded a source list on anthropology, which I post in user space for ease of citing sources in articles, and I'd love to hear your suggestions on how to improve it. The source list has a specific suggestions subpage which thus far has not been used by anyone. Anthropology is not my main area of research (that would be pedagogy of mathematics with a big dollop of psychology of human intelligence these days), but it is an important subject. So anything you can suggest about good sources on anthropology would help me and help other editors edit articles better here on Wikipedia. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] National costume vs folk costume

Please see my question here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Historical Ecology

Hello! We would like to invite you to join our proposed wikiproject: Historical Ecology. We would also like to have this project listed under related projects on the anthropology project page if there are enough interested editors. Annadestinmccown (talk) 22:42, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evolutionism (2nd nomination), since the article is of interest to this project. Steve Dufour (talk) 02:18, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Need a second look

We have a bunch of edits that have completely changed the page Recent African origin of modern humans, Was going to mass revert as its clear that the edits were done to support multiregional origin of modern humans. The whole page has been converted to this theory. Statements after statement have been added to dismiss this pages concept. Ref added for this purpose are old or misunderstood. Before i revert would like a second opinion as we have blanking of refs etc... . Moxy (talk) 16:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Diaspora

Additional input is needed over at Talk:Diaspora on what is devolving into a very unproductive conversation about the lead. Basically, due to two related AfDs there has been spill over to this entry with the basic definition of the concept now being contested.Griswaldo (talk) 19:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:ochre

There is dispute on the talk page about the use of images of Himba women using ochre body decoration. Input would be helpful. Paul B (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Evolutionary Psychology

This page is now under protection, and there is an RfC leading here. Given that evolutionary psychology makes claims that overlap with both biological and cultural anthropology, members of this project should be able to make constructive comments. It is worth looking over a few of the threads on the talk page to get a real sense of the problems people have contended with. Slrubenstein | Talk 20:25, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Citation templates now support more identifiers

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Obviously not all citations needs all parameters, but this streamlines the most popular ones and gives both better metadata and better appearances when printed. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 02:27, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Evolutionary psychology RFC

I have started an important RFC here regarding how to integrate the criticism of Evolutionary psychology into the article about that topic, and about how to define the topic itself either narrowly or broadly. Please participate.·Maunus·ƛ· 02:10, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Culture.si - 2000+ free text articles

Culture.si This is a portal by the Ministry of Culture of the Republic of Slovenia with over 2000 articles about Slovene culture. The text is under the same license as Wikipedia; you have to atrivute the source. Just wanted to let you know about this. --U5K0 (talk) 13:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] AfD notice

[edit] Nomination of Race and intelligence for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Race and intelligence is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race and intelligence (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. +Race and IQTetron76 (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Input needed on theoretical debate

(Reposted from WikiProject Archaeology). The talk page of the article on the three-age system has degenerated into a theoretical dispute. One editor is arguing that the three age system (Stone Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age) is the mainstream cross-cultural model in archaeology, while I'm arguing that it isn't. The resolution of this debate will affect the tone of the article, so we really need some outside mediation. Preferably, we need somebody with experience in archaeology that has access to good quality sources on current theories and paradigms. Snickeringshadow (talk) 13:05, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Ibero-Maurusian

Mechtoid (talk · contribs) has written a new page Iberomaurusian and redirected Ibero-Maurisian to the new page. The prior version of Ibero-Maurisian had very different content. I'm guessing we need to WP:history merge the two pages. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] How are death myths organized? One of you guys study this or have a textbook?

I need someone who knows something about anthropology to answer a question about categorization. The father of anthropology Sir James George Frazer divided death myths into four general classifications. Do you still use those classifications, or have they changed things? Origin of death stories mentions what he did, and shows examples of it. Its being discussed at AFD now. [3] Dream Focus 22:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] FAR notice

I have nominated Homo floresiensis for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 13:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment on article naming conventions for peoples, ethnicities and tribes

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people)#Articles on peoples (ethnicities and tribes) on how ethnicity articles should be named. Specifically, whether the article on the Foo people should be at "Foo", or at "Foo people" with "Foo" as a disambiguation page distinguishing the Foo people and the Foo language (and any other uses). The current convention is to disambiguate, but this is based largely on discussions at WP:NCLANG and I have suggested that a wider consensus including people interested in ethnicity and indigenous peoples as well as languages would be desirable. joe•roetc 21:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural Imperialism

I'm currently working on a contribution to the "theory and debate" section of Cultural imperialism. In doing so, I plan to separate the section into two, one being titled "Theoretical Foundations" and the other being "Contemporary ideas and debate." In the section entitled "Theoretical Foundations" I hope to give a little more background on Foucault, Derrida, and Said. And in the section entitled "Contemporary ideas and debate" I plan on talking about how the term is used in a variety of contexts such as Postcolonial critiques of development studies and of neoliberalism, representations of non-western peoples, and in sociological theories of labor. Currently, the page is under the umbrella of WikiProject Sociology, of start class and high importance. I was wondering if you thought it would be valuable to claim it under the umbrella in WikiProject Anthropology? Let me know what you think

Also, any other comments, suggestions, or advice would be greatly appreciated! Jkcory (Jkcory) 10:28 19 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Constructed languages nominated for deletion

Portal:Constructed languages has been nominated for deletion, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Constructed languages. — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] People

FYI, People People (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) was eliminated a few days ago. I notice that your project rates it as "HIGH" importance, so the discussion at Talk:People (disambiguation) and Talk:People might be of interest to you. 76.65.128.198 (talk) 12:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Anthropology will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in anthropology. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] RfC on Indigenous people

I have started an RfC at talk:Indigenous people regarding the definition and scope of the article because some editors are using the page to include all ethnic groups who claim to descend from the first known inhabitants of a place - such as Germans, Finns, Russians, Georgians etc. This definition would exclude several indigenous groups that have migrational histories from the scope and conflict with the established political definitions of the term. Please weigh in on which definition to use.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] W.E.B. Du Bois now a featured article

…which is wonderful. However, "anthropology" does not appear on his page. See what you can contribute without undermining the article's awesomeness.--Carwil (talk) 20:17, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Nomad

I notice Nomad and List of nomadic people are not in your list. Nomad in particular could do with significant cleanup and sourcing if you are interested. ~ Kimelea (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

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