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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 08:48, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

notability and an AFD

dear anthroponymists: first of all, I tried to notify you all of this afd through your article alerts, but then I got worried and thought that that should only be automatically updated and that maybe I'd messed up your system. I'm sorry if so, and the article of interest that is AFD right now is: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nelibandla.

second, though, have you all considered putting together an explicit standard for notability that could be reached and referenced through the usual means of finding notability criteria? i mean, maybe you have one already, but i can't find it. there seem to be an awful lot of deletion debates about names, and some clarification of standards could be useful. maybe this has already been discussed and everyone's sick of it? maybe i just missed something really obvious? if it's the first, i'm sorry and feel free to ignore me, if the second, i apologize, if something else... then ? thanks for your time. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 14:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• I've commented and suggested that the article be deleted. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Austin (surname) merging into Austin

This is somewhat bothersome (despite being from 2008) → Talk:Austin (disambiguation)#Re-merge of Austin and Austin (surname). I would like to de-merge these, but am considering that this would lead to a fight. Thoughts or volunteers to take on this fight (not sure I've the time to wage the battle properly)? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

FYI my surname activities

I've become involved in porting content from Wikipedia to WeRelate; the latter resource has established a crude templated method for drawing content from Wikipedia to augment content in Surname pages in the resource. This has led to some editing of Wikipedia content to either better source or do minor revisions to enhance or better sectionize content here. (my user page on WeRelate). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Merge Elias with Elijah

I proposed to merge Elias with Elijah, see Talk:Elias#Merger. Please comment.  Andreas  ^(T) 23:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC) Y Done  Andreas  ^(T) 23:58, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Suozzi

ok, this time i actually read the alertbot materials, and consequently placed your all's template on the talk page in the hope that the bot would add it to the article alert list, but since this is the first time i've tried that, i'm doing belt-and-suspenders and mentioning it here too. neutral, as always, yours— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Need help with making improper page into Anthroponymy disambiguation page

What's the best way to make Thomas Knight (MP) into a disambiguation page? I'm tempted to go ahead and stick the {{hndis-cleanup}} template on it to request assistance... Thanks! Allens (talk) 20:51, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Name articles and Name disambiguation pages

There is a discussion related to this Wikiproject beginning at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages#Disambig pages and name pages. Please comment. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 16:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Given names pronunciation task force?

It would be very useful to have audio files to accompany given names. Has anyone tried starting such a project for Wikipedia or Wiktionary? There are other sites out there that attempt this (http://namepedia.org/; http://www.pronouncenames.com) but it would be preferable use a more open, collaborative location for this.

I've been talking to a faculty member at my school about using this activity for class projects - a particularly multilingual student community here. Maybe we could start with adding pronunciation to existing given names + adding missing given names for a few target languages? Any thoughts or advice? Mozucat (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Should not limit yourself to en.wikipedia or even wikipedia; the wiktionary projects are in scope as well. Further, all of the audio files should be stored in Commons. In general, Commons will not retain for the long term material which is not cited / used by other projects. Finally, should consider the creation of infoboxes for given name and surname which would include an audio trace as one of the parameters. Right now, such infoboxes do not exist, only footer-boxes for the two. Another approach would be to provide spoken traces for full names ... adding an audio parameter to the biography infobox. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Right, the Commons would be good for the audio files. Thanks for your advice re: infoboxes, will work on that. I'm thinking about using Wikitionary as the main site of activity due to how difficult it is for this to be "sourced" (as pointed out by PamD). But it would be useful to have some pronunciation examples, even though there are so many variations. Mozucat (talk) 15:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

• But what constitutes a "reliable source" for pronunciation of given names? In the UK context, the one with which I'm familiar, a name-holder or their parents can decide how they want their name pronounced. A friend's son was named "Weland", intended to be pronounced "Wayland" but often pronounced "Welland". (Next child was given a very plain, no-nonsense, name!). "Caroline" is pronounced "..linn" or "line" at the preference of the name-holder. And so on. And of course one name may be pronounced differently in different English-speaking countries, and differently again in other countries where it is used as an exotic name. Complications abound! PamD 09:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

  +1 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:07, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Subsequent use of names when there is more than one

Paul-Philippe Hohenzollern (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

The surname of the subject is Hohenzollern. However, he is AKA Prince Paul of Romania. An editor wants to refer to him as Prince Paul when the cited source refers to him as Prince Paul. I believe the article should consistently refer to him by the main subject name throughout (unless, of couse, in a quote). WP:SURNAME doesn't appear to address this wrinkle. Are there any relevant policies or guidelines on this question?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Biographical metadata and article statistics

I've mentioned this WikiProject at a proposal I made at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Biographical metadata. Please comment there if you would be interested in helping with that proposal or have ideas or suggestions, or know where such statistics are currently documented, if anywhere. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 17:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)