Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian historic places

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New project[edit]

Things to do (in no particular order, feel free to add):

  • Add parameter to Template:WP Australia
  • Organise category tree under Category:Australian historic places
  • Tag and categorise articles
  • Update to-do list on main WikiProject page
  • Link WikiProject to Australian WP and other relevant projects
  • Add to WP directory
  • Create guidelines to help with new articles
  • Add resources to the list

Somno (talk) 03:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Extract[edit]

From state projects historical places not adequately delineated in current categories for those states that do not already have 'Historic placs' categories or articles.

Clearly[edit]

Delineate the differences between 'local', state and federal registers/legislation of what is historic/listed SatuSuro 03:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Project scope[edit]

Could I suggest the project scope be expanded to include items on State heritage registers as well as those classified by the Commonwealth and the National Trust?

The Commonwealth register covers the major historic sites. The National Trust listings include a wider range of places but can be a little too focused on historic houses and architecture and miss places of (say) economic historical importance. State Heritage registers have robust selection criteria and their inclusion would not in my opinion open the door for trivialities. There is also overlap between State registers and Commonwealth/National trust ones, so their inclusion would also not result in an unmanageable increase in article numbers.

Any views? Euryalus (talk) 00:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Having had a look at the Victorian Heritage Register, I found that most if not all of the entries were of equal or higher notability to the sorts of articles that the US project handles. Rebecca (talk) 01:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I'd like the idea of a category structure that relates to this - for example, if a building qualifies for all three registers, they would have three categories. Somno (talk) 03:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy to include State registers as well. As a query, is this limited to buildings? I can think of a few fairly mainstream entries on the SA register that aren't (last remaining grape vines in a region, etc), and some far less mainstream items added to the SA State register as part of an attempt to include "movable" items of cultural significance - the Hills Hoist and Frog cakes, to name but two.
Given the name of the Project, I'd suggest it relate only to "fixed" items, including buildings but also any other "place" such as a historic garden, natural feature, historic infrastructure and so on. Hills Hoists in general wouldn't therefore qualify, but a particular Hills Hoist with historic significance (the first Hills Hoist? A famous Hills Hoist?) might do. Frog cakes wouldn't qualify at all, though the Balfours bakery might.
These are just my opinions - I think the project sounds like a great idea and don't want to come across as proposing restrictive definitions or being overly concerned about process before I've done any work on the content. As an alternative we could leave the scope a little vage and see what evolves over time. Euryalus (talk) 04:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy with places - the attempt to include movable items was interesting, but not, I suspect, wise. :) In which case, the argument is that the project doesn't cover everything in a heritage register, just a subset, which is fine by me. - Bilby (talk) 04:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

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