Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian places
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I just noticed someone has added information and a few articles about the cadastral (property/allotment) divisions in Australia. See Cadastral divisions of Australia. I think this falls under the scope of this project and probably should be mentioned here. Also, it would be nice to see project members have a look at these articles in an effort to standardise them and make them more accessible/useful (I never knew they existed).
This came about because a guy in the army was shot in the head last night in a training exercise at a place called Cultana and I couldn't find it on Wikipedia. Finally I found it is the name of a hundred (parish) in South Australia. There is an airstrip and army base of some sort there apparently. Consequently I created Cultana,_South_Australia] (which, on reflection, is probably misnamed but that was what the link from Cadastral divisions of South Australia prescribed to turn the red link blue). Feel free to edit/move/merge to other.
- (Centralised discussion on the same topic at WP:AWNB#Cadastral_divisions) Orderinchaos 04:56, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
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Australian places articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Two places with the same name in the same state
I don't understand the policy for when there's two places in the same state with the same name: what does "the same method of disambiguation that is used in that state" mean?
Concrete example. In Victoria, there's two Bellfields: Bellfield 3081 in the City of Banyule in Melbourne which is what Bellfield, Victoria currently talks about, and Bellfield 3381 split between the Northern and Southern Grampians Shires, in the state's west. Google Maps for the Grampian Bellfield and the Melburnian Bellfield; search for similar information in VicNames and Australia Post.
So what does the policy say for this? I guess the Grampian Bellfield is not notable enough to get an article—it doesn't look like there's any development there and it's surrounded by a national park. And no-one's tried writing about it yet. But perhaps having a name clash is enough to warrant discussion.
The example given, about Kingston, South Australia, seems to be completely irrelevant, because no such place exists; instead, there's Kingston SE, South Australia and Kingston-on-Murray, South Australia, and "Kingston" is just a historical/local name.
—Felix the Cassowary 19:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Fwiw, the ABS distinguishes "Bellfield (Grampians)" and "Bellfield (Greater Melbourne)", which seems to be consistent with what we do with rivers like Avon River (Gippsland) and Avon River (Western Victoria). Note that the ABS does not create official names; it just needs unique ones. —Felix the Cassowary 20:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yup, on the basis of Springfield, Victoria up in Mildura and Springfield, Victoria (Macedon Ranges) this is approximately the right solution. Obviously the idea of using LGAs won't work in all cases—as many localities are split—but the general idea of a mid-level disambiguator is useful. I'm going to update the article page with a practical example, instead of the current irrelevant one. —Felix the Cassowary 20:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Merge to WikiProject Australia?
WikiProject Australian places is looking a bit too quiet these days. The last talk page activity was in November 2010. What's more, a lot of what should be discussed at this project is being discussed at WikiProject Australia. What do others think of a merger of some sort? ClaretAsh 23:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Requested moves of 30+ Melbourne street names
Editors here may be interested in this multiple RM that I have initiated. My preamble:
These articles are all concerned with street names in Melbourne. (I would have include another 17, but the template has a limit of 30.) I do not support these moves; but I know that some very active editors do. It is time to air the matter, once and for all. Is it better to have an article on Collins Street in Melbourne called simply Collins Street, or to have it called Collins Street, Melbourne as at present? Which option serves the needs of Wikipedia's worldwide readership better? In almost all cases that I list there is no content in the destination article, just a redirect. And in almost all cases there is no Wikipedia article that very closely resembles the Melbourne-oriented one. There are, for example, no other Collins Streets with their own articles.
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NoeticaTea? 12:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Lake Tabourie or Tabourie Lake?
I have just returned from the lower Shoalhaven in NSW and noticed a lack of coverage on some of the villages down that way so I am endeavouring to add some content (starting with a few photos). The existing stub for Tabourie Lake, New South Wales seems to be incorrectly named. The Shoalhaven City Council refers to it as Tabourie Lake, but the Geographical Names Board website and ABS Statistical divisions list the current naming of the village as "Lake Tabourie". I propose the article title is changed to Lake Tabourie (there is already a redirect from here) and the redirect on Tabourie Lake, unless anybody can provide a definitive answer? I know it is a minor stub, but as someone who grew up in the area calling it Lake Tabourie, it is irritating and incorrect! Dfadden (talk) 11:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- The Geographical Names Board lists "Lake Tabourie" as the suburb's name on the Geographical Names Register. The ABS uses Lake Tabourie as well. "Tabourie Lake" is the name of a village in the suburb. There is also a rural place and a lagoon called Tabourie Lake. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that some of the station names in Winton Branch Railway (Queensland) are redlinks. Perhaps someone familiar with Queensland geography could start articles on them. I created Prubi, but it's just a stub. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Perth is no longer a disambiguation page. Also there can be ambiguity between, for instance, the name of a place and the name of a person. I suggest changing
:*Where the town/city name has or is likely to have other uses somewhere else on earth, a link from the appropriate disambiguation page should be made (eg. [[Perth]] contains a link to [[Perth, Western Australia]], and [[Kingston]] contains links to several Australian towns).
:*Where the town/city name has or is likely to have other uses, a link from the appropriate disambiguation page should be made (eg. [[Darwin]] contains a link to [[Darwin, Northern Territory]], and [[Kingston]] contains links to several Australian towns). —rybec 00:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sigh. No problems with your change (WP:JUSTFIXIT applies surely?) but why are participants in the US Placenames discussion all of a sudden interested in changing the Australian naming guideline - especially ones who have never shown any interest in Australian topics ever. The Australian project is not a place to fight proxy battles over US placenames. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've changed it. Cheers. —rybec 01:17, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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What are the Good Articles?
Trying to improve my articles, I thought I would look at the GAs in this field. I see from this page that there are three of them. But I cannot see any way to find out what those articles are, so I can read them. At first I naively thought I could just click on the number "3" in the table and it might show me what made up that count, but no such luck. Can anybody suggest how to find these GAs? If not, are there any generally agreed guidelines, or some known good examples I can look at? --Gronk Oz (talk) 01:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)