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WP:AUTISM and similar shortcuts[edit]

WP:ASPIE, WP:AUTIE, WP:ASPERGERS, and WP:AUTISM currently redirect to an essay at Wikipedia:High-functioning autism and Asperger's editors. I believe this page, or rather its eventual title of Wikipedia:WikiProject Autism, would be a more appropriate use of such common redirect names. Please discuss at Wikipedia_talk:High-functioning_autism_and_Asperger's_editors#Reappropriating_shortcuts. Muffinator (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

What the talk page template means[edit]

There have been multiple disputes now over inclusion of the {{WikiProject Autism}} template on article talk pages, so I'd like to clarify what this is used for. Hopefully some disputes can be solved just by linking here, before any formal resolution method is deemed necessary. Note that if you replace the words autism and autistic, this can apply to all WikiProjects.

Tagging a talk page as "within the scope of WikiProject Autism" means that one or more of the project's editors believe the project should keep an eye on it. That's all.
  • It does NOT mean that any person mentioned in the article is autistic, including any in the title.
  • It does NOT mean that any neurological, psychological, or sociological phenomena mentioned in the article are found in autistic people, exclusively or otherwise.
  • It just means that the project is interested.
The only instance in which tagging an article would be considered disruptive is if the subject is only tangentially related to the project. So while articles about autism itself are obviously in the scope of the project, as are biographies of autistic people and people whose work is related to autism, if a topic is two steps removed then it would not be appropriate to tag the article. I should reiterate, however, that this does not mean the template is a statement about the subject of the article. The official WikiProject guide uses the example that WP:WikiProject Health shouldn't tag the article Toy just because it's healthy to wash toys (only the article Washing is tagged). The reason is that the subject is far removed from the project, not because the template would somehow be a statement that toys are healthy. An example specific to this project could be Claire Danes, an actor who played the role of Temple Grandin in a movie. The articles Temple Grandin and Temple Grandin (film) should be tagged, but not Claire Danes. Muffinator (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
That might all be nice if everyone who ever sees such a tag on an article Talk page instantly knows everything you have written above, but they won't, will they? Most will never come here to read your little essay. Many will get the wrong impression. We must find a better solution. HiLo48 (talk) 22:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the MAIN_TEXT arg to the template could be editting to make this clear? Stuartyeates (talk) 22:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
The text and use of this project's template is no different from any other WikiProject. If the text of {{WPAUTISM}} needs to be changed, then EVERY WikiProject template needs to be changed. That's a pretty big task, so I would advise running it by WikiProject Council first. HiLo48 - the idea is to link to this page so that the same argument doesn't need to be rehashed every time the same issue comes up. Perhaps a proper essay page would be more effective; we have yet to give either method a chance. Muffinator (talk) 00:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Any method would be better than what we have now. HiLo48 (talk) 02:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Autism Research Institute[edit]

Proposal to cut and paste rewrite from Talk:Autism Research Institute/draft into blanked article. I think needed changes can be made after the cut and paste and that the draft is acceptable improvement of existing article. - - MrBill3 (talk) 18:35, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Recent edit[edit]

Admitting that I haven't studied it (and haven't competence to do so), I'd like to call the project's attention to DIFF because it may give (too) much weight to DSM-IV. Admitting, again, that I may be off base here. --Hordaland (talk) 09:26, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

The DSM in general is very notable, at least in the United States. The DSM-IV however, is deprecated by the DSM-5 and should not be given much weight except for historical purposes. Thanks for pointing this out. Muffinator (talk) 21:21, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Article alerts[edit]

I have registered the project with the bots providing article alerts. I will integrate the results to the project page once the bots have run. Until then, you can see Wikipedia:WikiProject Disability#Article alerts for an example of the information generated. --Mirokado (talk) 20:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Autism#Article alerts. --Mirokado (talk) 19:20, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

A useful source (?)[edit]

Don't know if this has been used: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11606-012-2262-7

Date: 21 Nov 2012

Title: Comparison of Healthcare Experiences in Autistic and Non-Autistic Adults: A Cross-Sectional Online Survey Facilitated by an Academic-Community Partnership. --Hordaland (talk) 18:07, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Autism cure movement[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Autism cure movement has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 22:44, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Another useful source?[edit]

At SFARI, Simons Foundation Autism Research Initiative, an interesting post, 15 August 2014, "Guest blog: London as a crucible for autism in the 1950s" by Uta Frith: [1] with 4 references.

A historical look at the transition from "schizophrenic, psychotic, brain-damaged, epileptic, mentally defective" to autism.

I've added it to External links on her article. --Hordaland (talk) 20:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)