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Commons Aviation Wikiproject

Several editors have decided to start a Commons Aviation WikiProject which is going to be devoted to aviation-related content on Commons; Commons:Commons:WikiProject_Aviation. Some of the main tasks for the project include maintaining and sorting aviation content, as well as working on obtaining permission from photographers to upload their photos to Commons, in addition to working on introducing photographers to Commons to get them to upload photos directly to Commons. There is a discussion at Commons:Commons_talk:WikiProject_Aviation at which we are trying to ascertain what the needs of the community-at-large are, so please feel free to join in the discussion. Also, if there are any project members who are willing to do some translation work for us that would be great. See Commons:Commons_talk:WikiProject_Aviation#Translations for more info. Also, anyone with scripting knowledge would be welcome, as there are some ideas which would require such expertise. Look forward to hearing from project members over on Commons with any ideas, etc. Please feel free to translate this message as needed. Cheers, Y u no be Russavia ^{ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)} 14:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Civil Aviation Administration of China

Does anyone know where the accident reports from the Civil Aviation Administration of China are? It would be interesting to read them.

Several crashes happened in Mainland China over the years... WhisperToMe (talk) 20:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

CfD

For information recently created Category:Airliner accidents and incidents featured in a Mayday episode has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 26#Category:Airliner accidents and incidents featured in a Mayday episode. MilborneOne (talk) 15:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of British Airways flight 2157

The article British Airways flight 2157 has been proposed for deletion. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

On the grounds that the incident is not independently notable enough to warrant a separate article - fault lay in maintenance procedures and rectification suggested by AIBB was at level of recommending improvements to procedures such that problem was not overlooked in future. GraemeLeggett (talk) 13:07, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Non-accident articles

We seem to have a lot of articles on individuals being treated as accident articles and they also have been added and use the Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in YYYY infobox. I did remove some that were pointed to articles on villages that had a paragraph on accidents but the ones pointing to individuals are more common. Any thoughts of using the template on articles about individuals as I think it needs to be clarified, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 11:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I think that Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in ... should only apply to actual accident articles. If there is a need to add a cat to biographies then perhaps we need a new Template:People who died in aviation accidents or something similar. - Ahunt (talk) 13:30, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

They all tend to have cats like Category:Aviators killed in aviation accidents or incidents in the United States or similar which are appropriate for the article and also a list article List of fatalities from aviation accidents. MilborneOne (talk) 13:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) the cat being, or one of its subcats? In some cases the article on the person is the only place where the accident is mentioned. eg there are more cases of Otis Redding#"(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" and death and fewer of The Day the Music Died GraemeLeggett (talk) 13:38, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Otis Redding is one example where Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in 1967 has not been used! which shows we are not consistent, if we used the template everywhere then should it include all the accidents on for example List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft before 1925. In my opinion it should just be used for accident articles but if it is not then it needs clear guidance. MilborneOne (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of passengers and crew aboard the final flight of LZ 129 Hindenburg

The article List of passengers and crew aboard the final flight of LZ 129 Hindenburg has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

a lot of redlinks with little likelihood of them becoming articles. No indication that the list is of itself notable

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That's the stock notification. I raised the notability question on the article itself in August, so I thought it about time I went to the next step. There have been more costly - in terms of lives lost - airship disasters and their articles fare well enough with such lists. I'll allow that the Hindenburg is more famous because of the film but I still fail to see how a list of the passengers is notable/benficial to the project. GraemeLeggett (talk) 14:56, 11 February 2012 (UTC)