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Article related discussion[edit]

This should be noted at WP Poetry, Literature and here, since it won't show up on project alerts. There is a discussion at Talk:Songs of Innocence (album) including whether to move the new U2 album over the William Blake Songs of Innocence (1789) redirect to the later Songs of Innocence and Experience combined Blake collection. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

New article on graphic novel Bucko[edit]

I've created a new article on graphic novel Bucko.

Help or suggestions with additional secondary sources would be appreciated on the article's talk page, at Talk:Bucko.

Thank you,

Cirt (talk) 04:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Set between parameter[edit]

There's ongoing discussion on Template_talk:Infobox_book#Read_by_parameter. Feel free to comment! --Rezonansowy (talk | contribs) 19:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Is current edition of book cover fair use if a PD first edition cover exists?[edit]

Please join Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review#File:Autobiography_of_a_Yogi_current_cover.jpg and to form a broader consensus on the issue. --Redtigerxyz Talk 11:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I have made changed to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Books/Images as per discussion on NFC review.--Redtigerxyz Talk 04:37, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel[edit]

I've started a new article on the book by Janice DickinsonNo Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.

Feel free to help out with additional secondary sources, and/or chip in with collaborative discussion at Talk:No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 06:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Help review an interesting paper[edit]

As I noted at User_talk:Tbayer_(WMF)#Piotrus_contributions_on_Wikipedia.27s_research_for_November_2014_edition, there is an interesting paper (Public Domain Rank: Identifying Notable Individuals with the Wisdom of the Crowd)that can be reviewed in more detail in the upcoming November issue Wikimedia Research Newsletter (co-published with Signpost) that I think is of significant interest to librarians and digitization/open access/public domain activists. Perhaps someone would be interested in building upon my abstract-like review and providing a few more thoughts? Feel free to post on TB's page with an updated review, modify my own or add a new one. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Crossing the Boulevard page[edit]

Hi, I am writing to suggest edits to the Crossing the Boulevard book page: I have multiple suggestions, but the first is that the title of the page shouldn't have Boulevard spelled out. The title is actually Crossing the BLVD, which is the name mentioned in the many awards and references in the text. Are you able to help me change this? Thanks! - Mary ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marybarbour (talkcontribs) 17:42, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Is there a way to delete this page: ? Google still brings that page up first in searches instead of the correct page. I will make additional fixes to the page to improve the quality asap.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thoughts on lists of books by imprint or publisher[edit]

When is it beneficial to create lists of books by imprint or publisher?

There's a Category:Lists of books by imprint or publisher, created just now by me, with 3 items currently:

There are nascent lists of notable books in sections in other publisher articles, such as Prentice Hall#Notable titles. A redirect could be created from List of Prentice Hall books to point to there, and the redirect could be included in the "Category:Lists of books by imprint or publisher". That section itself is quite brief and not written/edited to serve as a list of the most notable ones, although it could developed further of course. Like that, more lists (as sections or as separate list-articles) could be created. And an overall list-article and/or a navbox could be created to array these lists.

In another area of Wikipedia, i helped develop a number of list-articles covered by navboxes that I think is helpful: see {{Lists of churches}} and {{Lists of churches in the United States}} which cover lists of individually notable churches (congregation+its buildings) in each of many church denominations.

Not sure if lists of books by publisher are helpful or not. Perhaps if they are limited to notable books, and include notes about the books, e.g. what's different about Farrar, Straus's 2002 edition of The Brothers Karamazov? Completely exhaustive lists by publisher are not appealing to me, personally, as would seem directory-like and I think in most cases the publishers themselves publish them anyhow. Thoughts welcome. --doncram 22:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

I believe lists of books by publisher can be very relevant, if the publisher is known for its editorial process. the FSG list is here because fsg is (was) a highly notable publisher, known for groundbreaking works. the karamazov is a new translation, i believe, considered the best yet. a publisher becoming an imprint doesnt make their prior work less notable. amistad was never very large. many publisher articles list the books in the main article. these lists should be broken out when large enough. not every book should be on the lists, of course, only books that are notable themselves. i want to also note that most publishers list authors they publish, which is pure puffery, as very few authors are tied to a single publisher, and are free agents. the books, however, stay with a publisher/imprint, and are sold along with the publisher when taken over. bottom line: if it werent for book publishing companies taking risks with new books, our civilization wouldnt be the same by a long shot, so the subject of who publishes what is vital. ok, down off the soapbox now...Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:04, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
My error on the dostoevsky. it was originally published by North Point Press in 1990, the FSG edition is a reprint. reprints are generally not notable, this is not one. yes, north point was acquired by fsg, but that was after 1990, so they dont get credit for it. the subject of publisher consolidation is vexing here. imprints get merged, but that only serves the publishers interest in self promotion, not the researchers need to know who was first out the gate with a new work.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:10, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

corporate gifts[edit]

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Talk:With the Century[edit]

Page move discussion is ongoing; I invite you to join in to improve consensus. --George Ho (talk) 19:41, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Write Wikipedia articles about books used as sources by Wikipedia articles (follow-up)[edit]

A while ago a talk page section that has since been archived included a very helpful suggestion by another Wikipedian, which I am renewing here.

Please write Wikipedia articles about books used as sources by Wikipedia articles. Having these articles can help Wikipedians determine the trustworthiness and aspects of the books they use as sources.

My instructions:

  • 1. Search a university database like this: (After entering the book's title, go to the left pane and select "reviews"). If you see at least two book reviews, you know the book is notable as per WP:GNG - You can also get a 14 day trial to Booklist and search for reviews there.
  • 2. If you see book reviews, try using Google to see if they are publicly available. If not, use WP:RX to obtain personal copies.
  • 3. Write your article using the book reviews as sources.

WhisperToMe (talk) 12:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

User:John Carter has some great suggestions: "If you really want to try this your best bet would be to contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Books. I might also suggest creating some articles like Bibliography of Antarctica and some others I and others have created. But there seems to me to be rather little interest in such efforts here. Perhaps(?) a better idea for some topics might be to create pages like those in Category:WikiProject lists of encyclopedic articles for good reference books on specific topics, as recent specialist reference sources often tend to be good indicators of academic opinions. [This was originally signed by John Carter on 10 July 2014 (UTC).]

I thought that was a great suggestion at the time, and I set to work searching for every published review of either edition of the book IQ and Human Intelligence by Nicholas Mackintosh. While I was still working on that article in draft space, I tried submitting it for the article review that happens from a draft submission. Alas, the reviews of that book are so consistently favorable that the Wikipedian who reviewed the new submission (which I thought was at best only in start class condition) then rejected the submission, because he thought the newly created article was an advertisement. I think I will try this again sometime, when I can be sure that the article is in generally good shape, and I can be sure that someone from this project will be looking on. Some books have the misfortune of receiving many favorable reviews, and oddly it is currently easier to create a new article about a book (I've seen examples) if the book has few positive reviews and quite a few negative reviews. But I will keep working on articles on books that are good sources for Wikipedia, because I think the original suggestion here is very helpful indeed. (Just now I'm coming back to the project talk page after seeing a rating by another Wikipedian of an article about another book that is a good source for many Wikipedia articles. I have that watchlisted and would also be glad to improve that existing article.) Best wishes to all of you who work on this project for many more good Wikipedia articles about books that can serve as good sources for Wikpedia. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 23:06, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

RFC: List of literary awards[edit]

RFC notification: Should these four external links be included in the article List of literary awards? -- GreenC 19:17, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Guinness RM[edit]

You are invited to comment on a requested move at Talk:Guinness#Requested_move_24_December_2014. -- Calidum 06:39, 24 December 2014 (UTC)