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Born to Run[edit]

It seems we have two articles on Born to Run. One exists at Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen and the other at Christopher_McDougall#Born_to_Run. Born to Run (book) redirects to that section and is listed at the disambig page for Born to Run. A merge definitely needs to occur (the two articles have different details/content as a simple redirect won't do), but which should be merged to which? (I'm not around on here much these days, so someone else should perform the merge...I just wanted this brought to attention/action). only (talk) 15:35, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

The question is whether to merge the book page into the author page, which would probably be kept. Does the book page deserve to be kept? Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:51, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
The book has been influential and often discussed in other works. No problem finding many reliable sources. It should be kept as a standalone article with the author's section a summary of the "main article". -- GreenC 20:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Draft notability guideline[edit]

I would appreciate assistance and feedback on WP:PUBLISHER. James500 (talk) 21:45, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles in need of Gutenberg, LibriVox etc.. external link author templates[edit]

A new tool announcement. External Link Discovery. This tool makes finding and adding External Link author templates faster. -- GreenC 20:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Stub cat proposal for stories & collections[edit]

I've proposed some new stub cats over at Wikipedia: WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2014/September#Century stubs for short stories and short story collections. Please let me know if these stubs would be useful. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 20:36, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly[edit]

Discussion still ongoing; join in before it closes. --George Ho (talk) 20:55, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Gospel Book[edit]

Hey, the article Gospel Book has been nominated for deletion. I think it doesn't really run a risk of being deleted, but a quick glance shows that it's unsourced and probably needs quite a bit of copyediting to bring it into shape. Anyone interested in saving the article, please feel free to address the issue. I'll try to do something myself, but am for the moment to busy IRL. Cheers, Yakikaki (talk) 20:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

The Gospel of Basilides - or on the contents of a non-existing book[edit]

I am in something of an edit-war on the Gospel of Basilides. My last version tells that it's contents are unknown; it is even doubtful if the book ever existed. However, User:Mhakcm prefers this version, which argues that the contens of this gospel has "similarities to the Islamic belief." I believe we got some WP:POV-pushing here. But that's me. Since I am one of the parties involved, I wonder if someone over here can have a neutral view in this. Regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 08:44, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

nothing is known for certain of the Gospel of Basilides, whether it existed or not. The standard summary of current scholarly opinion is in Schneemelcher "New Testament Apocrypha" trans Wilson; revised eidtion 1991. Fortunately the section on the Gospel of Basilides (pp 397 - 398) are accessible in Google preview; http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/New_Testament_Apocrypha.html?id=TDW0PeFSvGEC . Might I suggest that the article takes Schneemelcher as its primary source? Essentially, no quotations from a Gospel of Basilides itslf survive; but we do have quotations from Basilides 24 volume Exegetica or commentary, and some (though not all) commentators suggest that the two works should be identified.
An extended discusson of Basiledes Gospel is found Kelhoffer "Conceptions of Gospel" pp 77-97; and again much is fortunately accessible as Google preview. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pN5gqU5A9noC&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=basilides+commentary+gospel&source=bl&ots=EZ_3AHaieq&sig=-rDpdEJcA5LsWCySMl32rYmH3Aw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ceRIVN-ELIa07gath4DgAg&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=basilides%20commentary%20gospel&f=false The matter included in the article about Simon being crucified instead of Jesus comes from Irenaeus who attributes it to Basilides, but it would appear that current sholarship (Lohr) regards Irenaeus claims to knowledge of Basilides with suspicion, because it does not accord with the perspective found in writers who quote directly from the Exegetica. The standard study is Lohr 'Basilides Und Seine Schule' 1996. In my view the crufixion story should be mentioned in the article; but with the qualification that it may well not come from Baslides - or may be his quotation from some other Gnostic writing (which is I think Ehrmann's view)
hope this helps TomHennell (talk) 11:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


Certainly Tom you seem very knowledgeable; perhaps you can combine the two points of view and edit warring articles (i.e current and my version which Jeff5102 and JudeccaXIII keeps deleting/reverting) into one, so all aspects are clearly available to the Wikipedia reader. I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to adding sources but as I said in the edit summary all the material is sourced via Google from reputable books/sources and not chat rooms etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhakcm (talkcontribs) 04:34, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks fr your input, Tom. I do believe that the points you made are better placed at the Basilides-article, than in the article of his 'Gospel.' And since the crucifixion story is missing over there, maybe someone can add it. Best regards, Jeff5102 (talk) 11:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Notification of a TFA nomination[edit]

In the past, there have been requests that discussions about potentially controversial TFAs are brought to the attention of more than just those who have WP:TFAR on their watchlist. With that in mind: Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties has been nominated for an appearance as Today's Featured Article. If you have any views, please comment at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. Thank you. — Cirt (talk) 22:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)