Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cognitive science
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- 1 2013
- 2 Thanks and welcome
- 3 Cognitive science / Cognition
- 4 Assessing articles
- 5 Models, representations, maps – a quick review of articles
- 6 Requested move of Internal model to "Internal model (motor control)"
- 7 RfD of Relevance problem
- 8 Binding problem
- 9 Relevance problem
- 10 Suggested merge: Frame problem
- 11 Welcome to a new project participant
- 12 Merger proposal
- 13 Comparative Cognition Society
- 14 Life and Death in Assisted Living - seniors
- 15 Project added to alerts subscription list
- 16 Welcome another participant
- 17 Source list helpful for this project
- 18 Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
- 19 Expert attention
- 20 WikiProject X is live!
- 21 Invitation to Participate in a WikiProject Study
- 22 WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 3
- 23 Size
Thanks and welcome
Thanks a lot to Torchiest for his userbox template (see the project page) and a category for projects participants: Category:WikiProject Cognitive science members. And of course, welcome to the project, Torchiest! —㓟 (talk) 15:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
The two articles need some work, especially the one on cognition. A systematic perspective is lacking, especially the lead section deserves attention and e.g. a thorough definition. Most basic facts are underrepresented in favour of very specific theoretical assumptions that may presently remain speculative. Differences between CogSci and other approaches to the subject should be clearly reflected (not necessarily explicated). The CogSci perspective should be elaborated on grounds of considerate literature. Please refer to the list of useful literature. 㓟 (talk) 11:42, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
- There have been some productive edits to Cognition in the course of an educational assignment. See Talk:Cognition. 㓟 (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Models, representations, maps – a quick review of articles
A number of articles are concerned with a similar or seemingly similar subject matter (remarks/respective scope in brackets):
- Cognitive model (specific: cognitive science)
- Mental representation (vague, philosophy, mostly on representationalism in general)
- Conceptual model (partially very specific to conceptual modelling, partially immensely general)
- Internal model (specific: motor control)
- Mental model (cognitive psychology, cognitive science, vague)
- Cognitive map ((cognitive) neuroscience, psychology, environmental psychology)
Thankfully, cognitive model is specific to its meaning in CS.
Mental representation could be expanded to reflect the more scientific aspects. On the other hand, the definition is quite specific to CS and might be widened a bit.
Conceptual model needs some cleanup, material could be used in the other articles.
Internal model might be renamed »Internal model (motor control)« to reflect its scope.
Mental model ist really vague, in need of a decent lead and definition – pieces of descriptive and explanatory aspects are mixed together (even tough sections of the article might be very specific).
Cognitive map should see some clean up to distinguish the specific use in behavioural and cognitive psychology and cognitive neuroscience from applications of the term in environmental psychology (resp. geography, architecture, education etc.).
Requested move of Internal model to "Internal model (motor control)"
RfD of Relevance problem
I have proposed the redirect page Relevance problem (which redirects to Relevance realization) for deletion. Please see WP:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_April_14#Relevance_problem and discuss! Kindly, 㓟 (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Lova Falk has been doing some recent work on this article already, please help if you like. You can take a look at Talk:Binding problem#Focus of the article and lead Kindly, 㓟 (talk) 11:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Relevance problem, currently a redirect to Relevance realization, was nominated for deletion at WP:RfD on 14 April. After a week of no input it has been relisted, so your comments regarding this redirect would be very welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 April 22#Relevance problem. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- As are the article itself Relevance realization as well as John Vervaeke. Thanks for the notice! 㓟 (talk) 14:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- As I commented, I think it is preferable to turn the redirect into a stub rather than deleting it. You could probably write a better one than me, but I'm willing to do it if you prefer. My thought is to write something like this:
- The relevance problem is a problem that arises in attempts to implement artificial intelligence. Intelligent behavior requires an ability to learn to respond to arbitrary combinations of features of a situation, but if there are many features, a combinatorial explosion makes it impossible to represent all possible combinations explicitly. The problem is to devise a scheme that only explicitly represents a subset of feature-combinations that are most "relevant".
- Isn't that the Frame problem? Regards, 㓟 (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think they are (roughly) the same. Some authors use the term "relevance problem". Some authors consider the terms synonymous, too. Personally and in the most general sense, i would speak of the frame problem. Btw, maybe you have noticed my suggestion to merge Frame problem. Thanks and regards! 㓟 (talk) 01:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Suggested merge: Frame problem
Welcome to a new project participant
As a young project we should welcome our new project participant User:SunnyJulia. A new user, she has taken an extensive effort in writing a new article on Cross-cultural differences in decision making. Thank you very much! 㓟 (talk) 09:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Comparative Cognition Society
Hi everyone. I am working on an article about the CCS. It is in my sandbox, any help or advice is welcome. Oh yeah it is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dbrodbeck/sandbox/CCS Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi and thank you! I like the article so far, just two short comments: 1. you might add refs to the lead, 2. please don't introduce any redlinks. Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 12:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Life and Death in Assisted Living - seniors
Frontline (U.S. TV series) will be running Life and Death in Assisted Living on Tuesday July 30th: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/pressroom/frontline-propublica-investigate-assisted-living-in-america/ Please contribute to discussion Talk:Assisted_living#Life_and_Death_in_Assisted_Living XOttawahitech (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Project added to alerts subscription list
- Thank you very much! Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 15:18, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Welcome another participant
Thanks to User:Falk Lieder for his interest and participation! It is nice to have an expert on computational CS, and I am looking forward to reading Griffiths, T.L., Lieder, F., & Goodman, N.D. (submitted). Levels of analysis between the computational and the algorithmic. Topics in Cognitive Science. Kind regards, 㓟 (talk) 19:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Source list helpful for this project
Cognitive science has a broad scope, as the project page section about this project makes clear. You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 15:12, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much; I have listed this in the literature section of our project page. Kind regards, User:㓟 - (pi) (talk) 14:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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This is a notice about Category:Cognitive science articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 16:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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