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WikiProject icon This page is within the scope of WikiProject Disambiguation, an attempt to structure and organize all disambiguation pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, you can edit the page attached to this talk page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

Talk:Walloon —> Talk:Walon[edit]

I want to discuss what I think is an inaccuracy on the dab page Walloon; but when I click the "Talk" tab on that page, I get redirected to the talk page for Walon, which doesn't contain the matter I want to discuss. Why is that? Can I create a talk page for Walloon? If so, how, without screwing something up? J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 21:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

What seems to have happened is that at 00:13, 17 October 2010 Nothing149 (talk · contribs) moved Walloon to Walon (disambiguation), including the associated move Talk:Walloon to Talk:Walon (disambiguation) and at 13:13, 17 January 2011 Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) moved Walon (disambiguation) to Wallon but left the talk page alone. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:24, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes. For reasons no-one has been able to explain to me, Talk pages often get left behind when a page is moved. It looks like Talk:Wallon should be moved to Talk:Walloon. — kwami (talk) 23:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Won't that make it worse? Shouldn't the pairing be restored - i.e. why not move Talk:Walon (disambiguation) to Talk:Wallon? --Redrose64 (talk) 08:02, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Can't we just delete the redirection from Talk:Walloon? Won't it then function as a normal talk page? J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 14:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Just add ?redirect=no to the URL for a redirect, like this, then you can edit the redirection away. Alternatively, when you get redirected there's a link back to the redirect just under the title - it says "Redirected from <wherever>". Hairy Dude (talk)
I have deleted the redirection, as Hairy Dude suggested. Thanks. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 15:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Finding missing disambiguation pages[edit]

Is there a report generated anywhere to alert people to possible disambiguation pages that may need creating? I'm asking because I recently created Ross Harrison (after moving the previous article and fixing the links). I'm looking at the links given at Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation#Finding disambiguation pages, but I don't think that is quite what I am looking for. I'm trying to look for examples where no disambiguation page exists, but where there should be one. Carcharoth (talk) 17:51, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what you are looking for. There can only be one article at each title, so "get me all articles with _title_" would not work. For biographical articles, something like "get me all articles with a title _firstname_ _anything_ _lastname_" would work, but its likely there would already be a dab page for those. If you were to create such a report "by hand," how would you select articles? That could help understand what you are looking for. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 19:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
I've just remembered how it is possible to do this! Well, for BLPs at least. I also remember back in 2008, someone ran a report and created lists that people worked with, but I think they got deleted? Maybe I can still find the discussion back then? Ah, here we are:
Unfortunately, User:Eugene van der Pijll hasn't edited since 2013. I will ping User:Quadell as well, as he may be able to help. But Quadell and others shouldn't create any reports unless others will be working on them, as I may get busy again and not have the time...
For BLPs, because they are all in the same category, you can click around in Category:Living people, e.g. like this, and scan down the lists and see where batches of articles with the same surname exist (providing things have been sorted by the correct key). And then see if a disambiguation page exists. A database report would be quicker, though. Carcharoth (talk) 20:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I created John Aiken (disambiguation). But only one of those Aikens is listed at Aiken (surname). There are also three people named William Aiken listed there. Does that need a hndis (human name disambiguation) page, or are the hatnotes enough for that trio of articles? Carcharoth (talk) 20:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


Was there a new tool created for Dablinks? The current link on the main WikiProject Disambiguation page: [1], says:

We've moved! We're sorry, but the user-supported tool you have attempted to reach did not leave a forwarding URL where we could automatically redirect you.

I searched the index for 'disambiguation' but couldn't find anything that looks like the old Dablinks tool. Is there anything? Carcharoth (talk) 17:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Border Wars[edit]

Hello disambiguators! Please take a look at this draft and see if it should be an article, or if it's not needed. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

  • I think it is very much needed. I have formatted the page a bit. The existing page at this title will need to be moved, as it is clearly not the primary topic of the term. bd2412 T 21:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm going to go ahead and BOLDly move the page to Border Wars (disambiguation). Any further discussion or determinations of a primary topic can happen afterwards. Steel1943 (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
    • I have fixed all the incoming links. It should be smooth sailing from here. bd2412 T 19:25, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Advice needed on Process Communication Model[edit]

A search for "Process Communication Model" is currently redirected straight to Concurrent computing. That phrase more accurately describes the work of Taibi Kahler (which page also needs expanding). I intend to expand the Taibi Kahler entry and make a full entry for his Process Communication Model, but (as a new user) I'm unsure how to proceed with disambiguating this. aeon-lakes 08:41, 10 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeon-lakes (talkcontribs)

It looks to me like that particular title should just redirect to Taibi Kahler until the article gets written. A quick google suggests the full phrase isn't used for computer science applications. You can always put a {{redirect}} hatnote at the top in case that's not what the reader was looking for. Then when you replace the redirect with an article, likewise replace the {{redirect}} with {{about}} or the like on the new page. Hairy Dude (talk) 10:03, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I've done as you suggested (I think). aeon-lakes 10:43, 10 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeon-lakes (talkcontribs)
I disagree that "Process Communication Model" should redirect to a specific person rather than the broader idea of concurrent computing. If searchers want to read about the idea of PCM, they want information about related concepts (concurrent computing) rather than a specific person. A link to Kahler in concurrent computing is sufficient. Sundayclose (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Category:Surnames -- contradictory prescriptions on how to use it are in effect[edit]

See Category talk:Surnames#So how is this category supposed to used? and comment there if you wish. Herostratus (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Ram & Rams[edit]

There seems to be a bit of overlap with Ram and Rams, wouldn't it be better to just have one disambiguation article, rather than have a separate one for the plural of the other? Abcmaxx (talk) 22:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

There is some overlap, but there are also a lot of RAMS acronyms. Combining the pages would make a very long page, compared to the typical disambiguation page. I'm not necessarily against it, but we have to think through the pros and cons. bd2412 T 23:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Some clean up between the two is needed anyway, due to duplications. The Banner talk 00:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Although there is no requirement for dab pages to avoid duplications. Not all redundancy is bad redundancy, and there are situations where a reader looking for a topic might use with "blah" or "blahs", and if it is beneficial to keep the dabs separate, the topics that could have either ambiguous title should be listed on both. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:57, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Initial holders[edit]

Ongoing discussion of interest to project members at Talk:HRC#Hillary Rodham Clinton. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

And could really use some additional input there. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Model 1 & Model 2[edit]

Model 1 and Model 2 are now both disambiguation pages, and they both need a lot of work. Looking for a more experienced editor's input here, please. Faceless Enemy (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)