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Now that there is more than one Wikipedian on the project...[edit]

Since you are no longer the sole member of the Eclipse WikiProject, I thought perhaps now it can have a proper page. However seeing as the project page has been twice deleted, I don't want to go forward if you think that would be a bad idea, I was just going to copy User:Tomruen/Project solar and lunar eclipses to the dead link at Wikipedia:WikiProject eclipses. --TimL (talk) 05:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a good idea to me. -- Glenn L (talk) 04:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

BIG TODO[edit]

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make this project page more user friendly to new users. Make it clearer what needs to be done, etc. This section itself is sort of a stub, I haven't even looked at the project page very closely yet. --TimL (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

BIG TODO II[edit]

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There are a TON of articles that need the WikiProject Eclipses template. Need to find a bot that can do this, or some automated process. --TimL (talk) 21:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

A request has been made here.

lunarsolar saros twins[edit]

Evidently each solar saros has a lunar saros as a twin, with events alternating one sar (half saros) apart. Solar saros x is the twin of lunar saros (x-7). It is unfortunate they have different saros numbers. They start at roughly the same time, peak centrally at the same time, have almost exactly the same number of members and are otherwise intimately intertwined, each event alternating 9 years with the other. Why the (x-7)? Seems like it would make sense to give each pair the same saros number. Since we have charts for most of the solar and lunar saros perhaps they should be cross-linked. --TimL (talk) 14:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

That would make sense. However, Periodicity of Solar Eclipses states: "The numbering system used for the Saros series was introduced by George van den Bergh in his book Periodicity and Variation of Solar (and Lunar) Eclipses (1955). He assigned the number 1 to a pair of solar and lunar eclipse series that were in progress during the second millennium BCE based on an extrapolation from Theodor von Oppolzer's Canon der Finsternisse (1887)." It's unlikely, especially due to widespread use by both Fred Espenak and Jean Meeus, that the system will be changed in the near future. -- Glenn L (talk) 19:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

eclipses[edit]

does this cover eclipes other than Earth-Moon-Sun / Moon-Earth-Sun? Occultations, transits? 65.93.15.213 (talk) 07:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

From our banner at the top of this page: "This project provides a central approach to solar and lunar eclipse related subjects on Wikipedia." So I would say the answer is no. It could be expanded to include such things, but the project is already very large as is. --TimL (talk) 15:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I was wondering where to discuss coverage of the upcoming March 20 occultation of Regulus by 163 Erigone. No, this isn't the place. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

saros, inex, tritos, metonic templates[edit]

I´ve been a Wikipedian from the beginning but they keep introducing new techniques and change conventions that I am unfamiliar with. So about templates. I do notice that at individual eclipses, there are references to templates for its place in saros series etc. OK. But I see for many eclipses references to the tritos series (which I believe is a novelty - nobody bothered to track tritoses before AFAIK), while the relevant saros series is missing. I think adding the proper saros series template(s) should have highest priority, over tritos, meton, eclispe season and what have you. Anyway, excellent work that you are doing here. Tom Peters (talk) 14:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I have noticed this too and totally agree. I'll put it on the as-yet-to-be-created official TODO list. The editor who did most (all?) the effort on this project is on. Wikibreak for a time. --TimL (talk) 14:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Solar eclipse[edit]

I have nominated Solar eclipse for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKiernan (talk) 21:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution. --TimL (talk) 06:06, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

Unresolved

If the infobox-style panel on May 2013 lunar eclipse could be made into a proper infobox template, it would facilitate future editing, and the emission of metadata. Is anyone up for developing such a template? Or does one exist already, somewhere? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:42, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

wow, I have no idea. I know next to nothing about infoboxes nor did I create the templates. Could you point me in the right direction? also, if the templates exist, I'm pretty sure they are undocumented, so it would probably be better for me to create them from scratch. --TimL (talk) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I created them, copied from somewhere else. There's better ones for solar eclipses, so perhaps that could be copied and remade for lunar eclipses? The solar eclipse tables are superior also for using recursive templates as a database, like Template:Infobox Solar eclipse2 and Template:Solareclipse195_db used with Solar eclipse of August 11, 1999. I was meaning to go back and redo the lunar eclipses based on this system, but haven't gotten around to it. Tom Ruen (talk) 03:00, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, firstly, we should merge {{Infobox Solar eclipse}} and {{Infobox Solar eclipse2}}. Then, do we need a separate lunar eclipse box, or could one box serve both purposes? How many of the parameters are the same, or different? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:42, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
{{Infobox Solar eclipse2}} uses {{Infobox Solar eclipse}}, but gets parameters from the template database file, so they're both needed. I'm sure solar and lunar eclipses should have separate parameters. For making a list of parameters, the NASA listing [1] (listed from [2]), contains a "complete" list of eclipse events and stat data. For the solar eclipses I divided the catalog by saros cycle numbers to keep database files from being too large. I'd do the same for lunar eclipses, and its a high priority for me, but won't be doing soon. Converting to a new {{Infobox Lunar eclipse}} file is a good start, and the database approach can be done second. Tom Ruen (talk) 01:36, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Incomplete Information[edit]

On the Lunar Saros 145 page there is little more than a table. On other Saros pages there is also little more than a table. Why is the table incomplete? I am guessing that is because the missing data does not occur. But the table does not describe what it is showing. The columns are labeled

Cat., Saros, Mem, Date, Time UT (hr:mn), Type, Gamma, Magnitude, Duration (min)
Contacts UT (hr:mn)
Greatest, Pen., Par., Tot., P1, P4, U1, U2, U3, U4

I have checked several lunar saros pages, the Besselian Elements page, the Solar eclipse page, the saros page, and found nothing. If someone will post an image with all of these elements shown and labeled, I will undertake to post that image to all of the many lunar saros pages. I will at that time improve the one sentence with a detailed description of the table and image. Nick Beeson (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Saros eclipse set info[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Saros eclipse set info has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 11:43, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Image for 13 Nov 2012 eclipse[edit]

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Solar eclipse of 13 November 2012, as seen from northern Australia. Screen capture of NASA video.

I wanted to add File:Nasaeclipse13nov2012.png to the infobox on Solar eclipse of November 13, 2012, but it is too complicated for me. So I am informing you of the image's existence and will let someone who knows how to add it.    → Michael J    06:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Fixed a dead link that's probably used elsewhere[edit]

See Talk:List of 17th-century lunar eclipses. Thanks. 68.165.77.249 (talk) 22:06, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Lunar eclipse[edit]

{{Infobox Lunar eclipse}} has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.181.39 (talk) 12:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Solar eclipse2[edit]

{{Infobox Solar eclipse2}} has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.181.39 (talk) 13:00, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Key needed for maps[edit]

The maps like File:SE2013Nov03H.png really could use a key. As a layman, I can figure out the significance of the grid lines, but the pink lines and P1...P4 have me baffled. You are probably looking at needing a template that can be inserted under each occurence of these diagrams. Thanks. --Derek Andrews (talk) 11:30, 3 November 2013 (UTC)