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Turning this Project into a task force?[edit]

Let me reply vacuously so this item will not be archived soon. --P64 (talk) 20:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Archive schedule
When this discussion was closed, the archive setting was revised from 10(!) days to 500 days. Four 2012 items were appended to Archive 13 before that change. --P64 (talk) 20:40, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Covers the Franchise[edit]

This task force seems to cover the Franchise, and as such should not come under WikiProject Novels. WikiProject Novel tags on Daniel Radcliffe's page, for example, are undesirable. Should be moved to Media or Children's Literature. Bubka42 (talk) 08:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I think you mean the Novels / Harry Potter banner at Talk: Daniel Radcliffe. What is the cost of that bundled display of the wikiproject and taskforce names? As bundled the qualification "/Harry Potter" is prominent, more than the intriguing assessment of low-importance to Harry Potter(!).
(The biography doesn't link to any portal, not even Portal: Harry Potter, which is odd.)
Anyway there may be a technical solution unknown around here during the last year. The other WP: Novels task forces for children's fiction are also WP: Children's literature task forces (compare the upper right boxes on those two project homepages), and that was true when Harry Potter moved here last year. Yet neither parent project shows up directly on every talk page claimed by the task force.
For example, Harry Gregson-Williams is under Novels and Children's literature because HGW composed or directed the music for three Narnia movies. But Talk: Harry Gregson-Williams does not directly target the Novels or Children's literature project, only the WikiProject Chronicles of Narnia task force. That taskforce homepage, in turn, is a WP Novels subpage.
Neither WP Children's literature nor children's literature itself is mentioned on the Narnia taskforce homepage. That association may be only a cross-reference from WP Children's literature, a relatively moribund project.
WP: OZ has not been claimed or allocated as anyone's task force (Novels, Children's literature, Media). At a glance it looks dead, showing only one talk page contribution after 2010. --P64 (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
The display of the wikiproject bundle is as much a problem, as linking back of the page to the Novels stats. I was going through the assessment summaries that day, and I found there was one Featured Article of unknown importance. This turned out to be J. K. Rowling! And Daniel Radcliffe should link to the Harry Potter portal. Any of the active taskforce members got anything on this issue? Bubka42 (talk) 03:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm not an active task force member, but I am a member of WP:NOVELS, and if I may add my two-cents: It's strange to have actors and other Harry Potter-related stuff that are not novels under a project whose goal is to "...define a standard of consistency for articles about novels, novellas and short stories." or " attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia." There are a great many differences in editing articles about a novel and an actor, starting with, as mentioned above, assessment. How does one assess, for example, Emma Watson? While Hermione Granger as a character is of probably low-/maybe mid-importance in the pantheon of world literature, Emma Watson doesn't exist at all. Sure, I'm a fan of the Harry Potter series (books, movies, and all), but I was a little bit confused when I started seeing actors in the unassessed column of Wikiproject Novels. Was hoping to see some discussion about it and Elizium23 was kind enough to direct me here, but I don't see a whole lot of discussion. Am I late to the show? Or early? Olegkagan (talk) 18:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

The original discussion appears as the first section above and it will remain there for a long time (never, if we periodically append something or update the latest datestamp).

Do you have a concern other than the Novels project assessment report? Evidently that report automatically covers Harry Potter task force articles but does not cover Narnia task force articles. You will not find Aslan (Narnia fictional character) in the B/Top category of the Novels report, nor Harry Gregson-Williams (Narnia film music composer) in the Start/Mid section. I indicated the difference early in this section, and suggested WP:NARNIA as a model because it allays this concern. Bubka seems to consider Narnia "as much a problem" --without any explanation that I discern. --P64 (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

My main concern, which is what drew me to this discussion, is the project assessment report -- closer to the point though is assessment criteria for articles that don't fit within the scope of the project. Moreover, as a matter of principle, if we adhered strongly to the mission of WP:NOVELS, there wouldn't be task forces that cover anything beyond novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories. That said, as a compromise (which looks to be strictly a matter of structure and bookkeeping anyway), the WP:NARNIA model does the job. Olegkagan (talk) 21:07, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Ginny Weasley[edit]

Dear Harry Potter enthusiasts:

This redirect Ginny Weasley has some history as an article before being turned into a redirect. It's talk page has a long discussion about this. Now an article has been created at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Ginny Weasley by a participant in the talk page discussion, but it has not been submitted for review. From the remarks on this page: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ginny Weasley, it seems as though the creator wasn't looking for a review, and just wants to replace the redirect with that article. I am posting here FYI because it's likely that the members of this project have been previously involved with this. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/PA Differences[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/PA Differences, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/PA Differences and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/PA Differences during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. --BDD (talk) 00:09, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Portal:Children's literature for Featured Portal candidacy[edit]

  1. Portal:Children's literature
  2. Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature

I've nominated Portal:Children's literature to be considered for Featured Portal quality.

This was a joint quality improvement collaboration between myself and User:Wadewitz.

Participation would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature.

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Which cast members to include?[edit]

There's a discussion brewing here regarding which cast members are appropriate for inclusion on the HP film articles. My understanding is that consensus at WP:FILM is that, when all else fails, stick with the primary-billed cast, though including others may be appropriate if sources took note of them in a significant manner. In any event, there's some question as to whether there's a previous consensus on how the cast lists for the films should be handled, and additional voices would probably be helpful. DonIago (talk) 15:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Deathly Hallows#Direct[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Deathly Hallows#Direct. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 23:52, 10 July 2014 (UTC)