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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii:
  • Review current photograph requests
  • Determine scope of television-related articles
  • Update WikiProject invitation templates
  • Update geographic coordinates
  • Sign up for Milestone Announcements
  • Coordinate with WP:VOLCANO
  • Update project layout and design
  • Update Hawaiian island infobox


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Shaved Ice Error[edit]

In the article on "Shaved Ice", The myth about the plantation workers using samurai swords to shave ice is doubtful, seeing as how the Japanese immigrants to Hawai'i Nei in the late 19th century are characterized by historical records as commoners and farmers from the southern island of Kyushu who specialized in wet agriculture, thus their usefulness with sugar cane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Extrabadfish (talkcontribs) 08:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Anyone interested in a Hawaiian Wikipedia:Meetup?[edit]

Is anyone interested in doing a Wikipedia:Meetup at some point. I am an editor with >2,000 live edits. Among my work are the citations for Chatt G. Wright, the Life in Denmark and Tunisia section, citations, & external links for Macel Leilani Wilson, the bibliography, citations, & external links for Robert Wintner, & the creation of the Pål Wessel article. I would like to get together for a face-to-face meetings. I am on Oahu, but that would not preclude meeting on one of the other islands if there was enough notice. Peaceray (talk) 21:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Update --- now see Wikipedia:Meetup/Oahu/1[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Oahu/1 Peaceray (talk) 19:19, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Hawaii hotspot[edit]

I'm going to try and restart this old project, and your comments would be highly appreciated. Thanks =), ResMar 02:09, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Right so, leaving Hawaii hotspot aside, I would like to collab with some people on the two other remaining tasks—doing maintenance on Mauna Loa and FARing it, because it's quite an old FA, and getting Kilauea to GA status. Any volunteers? I would really appreciate the help with concluding this project. ResMar 23:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
I've been monitoring it for a while, but before it received protection Mauna Loa received an unusual amount of vandalism for such a non-controversial article. It would be good to give a good going-over. KarlM (talk) 03:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
It's pretty high-visibility, that's the problem; see Wikipedia:WikiProject Volcanoes/Popular pages. It's certainly not as up there as Iceland or Volcano, but it's there...ResMar 05:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Anywho, if anyone wants to help me out with either task, they should yahoo on my talk page. ResMar 19:10, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Kilauea[edit]

I'm interested in using the content from Kilauea#Approaches in a rewrite. However, it's completely unsourced; anyone know where this is coming from, or can point me to a good reference? Thanks, ResMar 03:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Would any of these links help?
"Directions to Hawaiian Volcano Observatory". 
"Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park - Directions (U.S. National Park Service)". 
"Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park - Maps (U.S. National Park Service)". 
"Kilauea Crater 7.5X7.5 1981". 
Peaceray (talk) 03:20, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll leaf through them, thanks! Got a lot of stuff rolling now, heh. ResMar 04:23, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month[edit]

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Hawaii will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Hawaii's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Alexis Bachelot[edit]

Hi everyone, the article on Alexis Bachelot, one of the first Catholic missionaries to Hawaii, is currently a featured article candidate. I'm very far from an expert in Hawaiian history, so it would be much appreciated if anyone who knows a lot/is interested in the history of Hawaii could review the article. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Relevant CfD[edit]

Please see here This conversation is getting more complicated and knowledgeable editors could probably be of assistance. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 05:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Greetings from GLAM-Wiki US[edit]

Invitation to join GLAM-Wiki US
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Hello! This WikiProject aligns closely with the work of the GLAM-Wiki initiative (Galleries, Libraries, Archives, and Museums), a global community of volunteers who assist cultural institutions with sharing resources with Wikimedia. GLAM-Wiki US is a new community initiative focused on organizing cultural collaborations within the United States. GLAM organizations are diverse and span numerous topics, from libraries and art museums to science centers and historic sites. We currently have a backlog of interested institutions- and we need your help!

1rightarrow.pngAre you interested in helping with current or future GLAM projects? Join→ Online Volunteers

We hope you'll join the growing GLAM-Wiki community in the US. Thank you!
-Lori Phillips (Talk), US Cultural Partnerships Coordinator
For more information visit→ The GLAM:US portal or GLAM-Wiki on Outreach

We currently have interest from the Imiloa Astronomy Center of Hawaii to begin a Wikipedia partnership and implement QRpedia codes. Please let me know if you are interested in assisting with this cooperation, either online or on-site. LoriLee (talk) 20:17, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Any interest in an Oahu Wiknic?[edit]

Is there any interest in a 2012 Wiknic on Oahu?

This could take one of three forms: just a picnic, a picnic combined with an edit-a-thon, or a Wikipedia:Meetup.

If we do just a picnic, than an park or beach park could do. If we do a Wiknic / edit-a-thon combo, I suggest that we use one of our Hawaiʻi State Public Library System (HSPLS) branches that have a meeting room available on a Saturday and either are adjacent to a park or might have grounds that would accommodate a picnic if the branch would allow it. According to the "HSPLS Home Page". Retrieved April 28, 2012. "Free wireless Internet access will be available in public libraries statewide beginning on Monday, April 2." 

Below is information on the Oahu branches that have Saturday hours, meeting rooms / lanais, and possible picnic spots nearby:

Oahu branch Saturday hours Phone # Location Notes
Aiea 10:00am - 5:00pm 483-7333 99-143 Moanalua Rd. Aiea 96701 picnic on grounds?
Hawaii Kai   9:00am - 5:00pm 397-5833 249 Lunalilo Home Rd. Honolulu 96825 picnic on grounds?
Kailua 10:00am - 5:00pm 266-9911 239 Kuulei Rd. Kailua 96734 adjacent park, no meeting room, but has two lanais, one covered
Liliha 10:00am - 5:00pm 587-7577 1515 Liliha St. Honolulu 96817 adjacent park
Waianae   9:00am - 5:00pm 697-7868 85-625 Farrington Hwy. Waianae 96792 parks nearby
Waimanalo 10:00am - 2:00pm 259-2610 41-1320 Kalanianaole Hwy. Waimanalo 96795 parks nearby

Anyone interested, have suggestions, or other thoughts? Peaceray (talk) 02:12, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Update --- now see Wikipedia:Meetup/Oahu/1[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Oahu/1 Peaceray (talk) 19:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Benjamin Dillingham[edit]

As I read the article about mister Dillingham I noticed that there was nothing about his role in↔↑↑ the Bayonet constitution or his membership in the Committee of Safety that eventually overthrew the Hawaiian nation. I think it is of great importance to the history of Hawaii.

Maydemia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.122.101.66 (talk) 23:57, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Barack Obama FAR[edit]

There is a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Barack Obama/archive9Lihaas (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

WP MOS HAWAII active/in force[edit]

Hi, I'm just wondering if this still applies Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles. Also if there is any overview/connection to Tonga or other Polynesian? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Renaming Request Huakai-->Guam[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:HSC Huakai. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Some new pages that need work[edit]

I created Environmental issues in Hawaii and Energy in Hawaii to clean out and clean up Environment of Hawaii. They all need work. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 10:05, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Kīlauea[edit]

Hello guys, I've made strides on Kīlauea, but it's an enormous pain in the tush to find references for. Sort of the reverse of what I'm used to, the pipeline seems to consist of either very detailed scientific reports, or very irrelevant tourist information. I've stuck to the Hawaii Volcano Observatory so far, but they don't cover recreation nor ecology, both of which are going to need to be added to the article. So, to make a long story short, could any of you guys help me out a bit with the sourcing? The really good French article uses the Atlas of Hawaii extensively for its ecology section, so if someone has that book on hand it would be really helpful. Thanks in advance! Hopefully. ResMar 00:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Ecology is finished, anyone got anything on the Ancient Hawaiians and the volcano? ResMar 00:16, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Lānai (Hawaiian language)[edit]

Members of this project are invited to participate in the discussion happening at Talk:Lānai (Hawaiian language). Maile66 (talk) 12:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Kilauea (again)[edit]

Can you guys take a look at Kilauea and tell me what you think? Maybe even give me a ce on it? There's still work to be done, but it's mostly punched into shape. Thanks, ResMar 14:35, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Definitely could use a ce, but I just don't have much time for WP at the moment. Sorry! Awien (talk) 16:51, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Nor I, or rather, I've walled on this article. Does it look complete enough to pass GA? There's tons and tons to add on tourism that I don't have the patience to weed it out of crapsack sources. ResMar 21:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Comment period on the Wikimedia United States Federation[edit]

There is a proposal for an an umbrella organization for chapters and other groups in the US called the Wikimedia United States Federation. A draft of the bylaws is now up at meta. There will be an open comment period on the bylaws 17 September, 2012 to 1 October, 2012. The comments received given will be incorporated into the bylaws and they will be put up to a ratification vote from 8 October, 2012 to 15 October, 2012. --Guerillero | My Talk 21:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Category:Hawaiian players of American football[edit]

Category:Hawaiian players of American football, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Help me source more information about Tulsi Gabbard?[edit]

Hi! (Hope I'm not putting this request in the wrong place.) I'm working on improving the article on Tulsi Gabbard, who's just been elected as Representative for Hawaii's second Congressional district. I am requesting your help sourcing more information about her political views, important dates in her life, analysis of why she won the Democratic primary over Hanneman, her small business, her religious practice, and a few other details. I don't live in Hawaii so I'm not as familiar with local media. More details are on the Tulsi Gabbard talk page. Any help you can give is appreciated. Thanks! Sumana Harihareswara 14:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Within touching distance of this project's first GT (maybe FT)[edit]

All that's left is Mauna Loa, but touching up an old FA of its magnitude is no joke of a task. I would really, sorely appreciate some help, starting with some peer reviewing. Thanks ahead of time, guys. And perhaps I won't have to go through it alone :/ ResMar 22:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, who was I kidding. Nearing two months later and I estimate I'm 70% done. ResMar 04:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Anyone interested in working on the GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) WikiProject here in Hawaii?[edit]

Is there any on who is interested in working with the GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) WikiProject here in Hawaii? I am thinking specifically about working with the Hawaii State Foundation on Culture and the Arts / Hawaii State Art Museum & the Honolulu Museum of Art / commons:Category:Honolulu Museum of Art. Peaceray (talk) 02:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Restored MMfA citation in Liliuokalani: Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Liliuokalani#Restored MMfA citation in Liliuokalani: Overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Peaceray (talk) 03:06, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

List of Counties in Hawaii[edit]

Hello Hawaii folks- I understand that the List of counties in Hawaii is a FL. I have however jut gotten the List of counties in WV to FL. I thought that after that experience, I would relate that te stadards fr a FL are now harder and as such, I hve started to look at all county lists in the US. Can ANYONE here look at the List of counties in Hawaii and HELP me find a resource, a book, etc etc that would tell me more about how counties in Hawaii were named. Aditionally, looking at the founding dates, Honolulu is indeed 1907, BUT it was originally founded as another name in 1905. Can we add data that would communicate that on this list? I would be willing to help in any way possible. Thanks Coal town guy (talk) 03:37, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

According to the aforementioned text, Honolulu means "protected harbor", Maui is named after a demigod, Hawaii seems derived from a Polynesian word that means "home island" or "underworld", Kauai's meaning is unknown, & Kalawao seems to mean "announce mountain area".
Peaceray (talk) 05:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on use of 'okina in article texts[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Article alerts hasn't picked it up yet, but there's a move proposal at Talk:Hawaii which actually isn't a move proposal according to nominator: "the whole point of this is to form a consensus on what spelling is preferred in general, not to form some WP:LOCALCONSENSUS on some random Hawaii article." 17:04, 28 February 2013. Seems appropriate that WP Hawaii be notified. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Need a Hawaii expert...[edit]

...so I figured this was the best place to come! :) If someone(s) could have a look at Talk:Waipio,_Hawaii#Confusion_regarding_similar-sounding_places that would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Daniel (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Daniel, You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Talk:Waipio, Hawaii's talk page. Peaceray (talk) 05:38, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

People are not "discovered"[edit]

The sentence "Captain James Cook, the European to 'discover the Hawaiian islands and call them the "Sandwich Islands", was killed on the Big Island at Kealakekua Bay." should be changed to reflect the respect given to Native peoples in the 21st century.

Please bring the nomenclature up to date with something like Cook "was the first European... 'to make landfall at' or 'to visit' or 'to document' or 'to navigate to' the Hawai'ian Islands". Thank you. ˜˜˜˜ Wendy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.233.11 (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merger needs to be addressed[edit]

A proposal to merge Compositions by Liliuokalani into List of compositions and works by Liliuokalani was made January 2012 that has had absolutely no discussion that I can see, and doesn't look like it was put on the talk page here. These two pages were created within a month of each other in 2008 by the same user. — Maile (talk) 20:08, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

List of Hawaiian volcanos[edit]

List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian – Emperor seamount chain has been nominated to be removed from feature lists. Please comment at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian – Emperor seamount chain/archive1. Thank you, Ego White Tray (talk) 03:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

File:NativeHawaiianGroup1890.jpg[edit]

File:NativeHawaiianGroup1890.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Need verification on death of Poncie Ponce[edit]

At Poncie Ponce, an unregistered user has input a death date of July 19, 2013. AGF on that, but there is no verification, and I find nothing by internet search. If anyone can provide a citation to Ponce's death, please cite it in the article. — Maile (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

The only other Wikipedia posting by this unregistered user changed his birth name from Ponciano Hernandez to Ponciano Ponce. I just found a 2013 article on the Maui News that says his real name was Hernandez. — Maile (talk) 12:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Oceania banner[edit]

See WT:WikiProject Oceania, where a suggestion has been made to replace the *-nesia project banners with the new Oceania banner, because they are now in the Oceania hierarchy. As WPHAWAII is under the WPPolynesia hierarchy, you may be interested in considering that idea for WPHI. -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 08:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes America - Oahu[edit]

As part of Wikipedia Takes America and Wiki Loves Monuments USA, I invite you to become part of the

Wikipedia Takes America - Oahu event.

Peaceray (talk) 02:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Samuel Hoyt Elbert#Other books and other languages[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Samuel Hoyt Elbert#Other books and other languages.

     Mary Kawena Pukui & Samuel Hoyt Elbert co-authored many books. Perhaps it would be good to work on a shared bibliography for both & include it as a sub-section in both articles.

      Peaceray (talk) 05:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment at Talk:TheBus (Honolulu)[edit]

I have opened a request for comment at Talk:TheBus (Honolulu) regarding the vehicle lists in the fleet section. Please feel free to review the matter and add to the discussion. Musashi1600 (talk) 11:17, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Expanding Royal family articles[edit]

I am in the middle of some research to expand many of the articles on the Hawaiian Royal Family. A recent discovery in my own family prompted an explosion of research by me on a number of figures. While doing this research it became apparent that some of our articles have a number of errors and are cutting themselves short by disregarding information available in, not only many other sources, but the sources that are being used already. I feel there is not enough balance in a number of articles and also seem to treat some information as absolute fact when the sources themselves do not. A recent discussion of title and styles of royalty has been very helpful and while many of the figures in Hawaiian history seem to be referred to as Prince, Princess etc., it seems that some explanation is in order to clarify the information. Seriously...one "Princess" was only called that as an honor by her supporters and while we can use such a title in the lead and article, it is showing bias and a lack of balance not to mention that they never received the title and style in any known decree.

Anyway, while many of the people referred to with such titles and styles may not have been official, the consensus of the general community is that the title may b included if supported by a reliable source. I just believe that when the RS states that there is or were contradicting information, that should be included. This is not to re-write any history, but make sure such history is not being re-written out of a confusion of the facts.--Mark Miller (talk) 07:19, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Overthrow or revolution[edit]

The takeover by the Committee of Safety in 1893 is most commonly referred to as the "Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii" Not the Revolution of 1893. This is a matter of the most common name which is the title of the article. For this reason I have altered a template. The only place I see this referred to as a "revolution" is by U.S. Special Commisioner James Blount in his interviews of important businessmen after the situation almost leading them to conclude this was a revolution inspired by sugar prices and the wrong doing of others that the Committee of Safety was acting to protect against.

--Mark Miller (talk) 08:23, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

New Start Class biography[edit]

John Mahiʻai Kāneakua. --Mark Miller (talk) 13:26, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Honolulu Wikipedia Meetup[edit]

I am starting a Honolulu Wikipedia Meetup group. You are all welcome to suggests time & places for meeting. For me, the initial organizer, Tuesday evenings & Sundays (not too early!) work best. Peaceray (talk) 02:51, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update[edit]

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Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

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Ranai listed at Redirects for Discussion[edit]

Ranai, the name of a place in Indonesia, current redirects to the Lanai article, which is about a place in Hawaii. Your views in the discussion about what to do with this redirect are welcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 3#Ranai. Thryduulf (talk) 00:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Hawaii regional cuisine[edit]

I have requested comments about the recent restoration of this stub here. Viriditas (talk) 02:32, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in the Americas may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 20:57, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Which picture should be used for the lead image of Kamehameha I?[edit]

Please feel free to comment on an active dispute on Talk:Kamehameha I#RfC: Which picture should be used for the lead image?.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Hawaii edit-a-thon![edit]

I'm interested in attempting to put together an edit-a-thon for Hawaiian cultural topics something during the Makahiki festival perhaps around the month of November. The hope is that our lackluster coverage of Hawaiian mythology could be improved with help from the Bishop Museum, Hawaii Pacific University, and the Honolulu public library. I am in the process of making initial contacts with these organizations as well as Wikimedia DC's GLAM project. If this sounds like something you might be interested in participating in, or perhaps helping to coordinate, could you please add your name to 2014 Makahiki Edit-a-thon?--v/r - TP 21:24, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Article move request.[edit]

There is currently a discussion underway to request an article under this projects scope be moved to a different title. There are actually many options and variations to this name so input is needed to determine a consensus. This involves using special characters in the article title and has touched on whether or not all articles with the ʻokina's and kahakō's should be moved to regular English spellings with redirects left per Wikipedia policy. This question has been raised recently and the community may wish to add input, change consensus or clarify and or strengthen consensus etc.. The discussion is at Talk:Pa'u riders#Request move. Thanks!--Mark Miller (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Pa'u riders definitely needs someone over there who understands the topic. Montanabw(talk) 03:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
This will probably not garner much response. But if anybody does see this discussion, please comment also on the argument over the spelling within the article itself per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles#Orthography: special characters. I argued for maintaining the correct forms in the Hawaiian language (seeing this an genuine exception to any policies the opposition may cite to use the incorrect forms) or excluding them altogether. Thanks. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:37, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Given that the two of you are wasting immense bandwidth on the issue, why not ask for a 3rd opinion if no one here cares? Montanabw(talk) 23:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Miller insults me everytime I try that move. Have you seen Talk:Kamehameha I? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
As I said, when you asked for a third opinion twice before, try to have some extensive discussion first to at least attempt to use the talk page to work out disputes. Trying to further any discussion about me or your interpretations of my actions and your insult from it is just violating WP:NPA by discussing the contributor and not the contribution. You are not being neutral with that sort of notification at the project level when telling editors I am "insulting you" and then asking them if they have seen a talk page you link to. That could be seen as canvassing.
There is always going to be others that strongly disagree on a subjects that are close to you or that you feel you have invested a great deal of time on, but if you cannot assume good faith, collaborate and try find compromise you will end up in a negative situation. I am not here to piss you off and you are not here to be a thorn in my side but if this is the reality there are mechanism within the community that may need to be explored. You certainly have the right to ask for administrative intervention at WP:ANI if you feel something needs to be addressed by an admin who has the power to warn and block for especially egregious violations or missteps. You can also add your own opinion on issues and situations to help form consensus, I do. There are also other forms of dispute resolution such as WP:DRN (full disclosure; I am a volunteer at DRN but less active recently) which is informal mediation with a volunteer at that board that can be filed as a request for assistance to resolve content disputes and a more formal meditation with the Wikipedia:Mediation committee, again, for content disputes. There is the Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct but should read the guidance first. This is for requesting the comment of editors to discuss user conduct. It is also where a rebuttal is given and editors are given two sections to endorse the user conduct report or the rebuttal and a section where editors may leave their views on the situation. An RFC/U will be certified or not. If not certified users who are the subject of the report need not do anything, but a calm, reasoned response is suggested but no need for point by point. The very last of the line can be formal arbitration with Wikipedia:Arbitration committee which can sanction editors, block, ban and place articles under probationary sanctions that, if violated can garner warnings and/or blocks.
Personally, I think you are just very young and enthusiastic and may not understand all of Wikipedia's different aspects, let alone its policies and procedures. But you have been very clear that you no longer assume good faith and I have attempted to make some sort of peace and try to move forward but since you are wishing to involve others in the dispute in this manner, why not try one of the ways the community feels is best practice and see if that garners more attention. Either that, or lets try starting over again trying to collaborate, if not friends at least civil. I'll take the first step; I'm sorry KAVEBARE for anything I may have done that insulted you and I would like to thank you for your enthusiasm of last year when I first mentioned Kilinahe. We had both learned something back then and it was a nice feeling and I hope that we can continue to learn together as editors involved in the same subjects. Aloha and Mahalo! --Mark Miller (talk) 08:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Assistance requested[edit]

I'm interested in finally bruising through the second half of Mauna Loa and completing my long-suffering featured topic work on the volcanoes of the island of Hawaii. Any assistance, in particular with finding and integrating sources on the volcano's cultural history, observational history, ecology, and tourism significance, would be greatly appreciated. ResMar 01:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

That is some excellent work. I might be able to add some cultural and other history related content with references. I will see what I can do.--Mark Miller (talk) 10:05, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Spam (food) page and its article class[edit]

Hello! A group of me and three other students (User: lhe3460, User:KathyQX94, User: mwong850, User: tkw32) at Cornell University intend to edit the Spam_(food) page as a class assignment and we would really value your feedback and ideas. The class is called Online Communities and will allow us to gain firsthand experience about joining a community online. We have proposed a list of changes to the article on the talk page along with a list of potential sources. We have some specific questions and it would be great if you could answer them! We noticed that the Spam page is listed as a B-class article in this WikiProject but a C-class article in WikiProject Food and Drink. Is there a reason why the classes are different? Are there any specific things you would like to see in the Spam article to improve it as a whole? --Lhe3460 (talk) 23:52, 17 September 2014 (UTC)