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Proposal for an overhaul/simplification of the historic designation colors[edit]

Please see Template talk:Designation#A color scheme that scales. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 22:35, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Nova Scotia[edit]

This is a request to add a designation to {{Designation}}: the Heritage Property Act (Nova Scotia). This heritage legislation is provincial in scope ("State/provincial designations"), limited to sites in the Canadian province of Nova Scotia. Under the legislation, both the province and municipalities can designate sites and cultural landscapes, while municipalities can also designate heritage conservation districts. I cannot find a source that indicates how many sites are designated under this legislation, but apparently 1008 are listed so far on the Canadian Register of Historic Places. Callnames should be NOVA SCOTIA, NSHPA, and NOVA SCOTIA HERITAGE PROPERTY ACT. It doesn't really matter which colour is chosen for {{Designation/colour}} and those templates that still use the colours as backgrouds - I've already added blue to {{Designation/colour2}} (to match the Nova Scotian flag) for those templates that use a border. Let me know if additional information is required. Thanks for your help. Cheers, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:30, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Done.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

recategorization discussion of churches[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 February 4#Congregational churches categories where I would especially be looking for input on the British categories. Mangoe (talk) 17:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Designations for U.S. states[edit]

The following states have designations that have a list page and appear to meet the criteria for creating a designation template. Can someone please create the designation templates for these states.

75.128.34.228 (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Designations for U.S. cities[edit]

The following cities also have designations that have a list page and appear to meet the criteria for creating a designation template. Could someone please create these also.

75.128.34.228 (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Eyes[edit]

Please see User talk:Besets and the contributions of this editor. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craftsman Mansion[edit]

The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Craftsman Mansion may be of interest to members of this project. J04n(talk page) 22:50, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Germany[edit]

I have noticed Germany is not mentioned on the project page. I was thinking of importing some of the lists from deWiki like de:Liste der Baudenkmäler in Freising and have two questions: 1: do you have a terminology guide in the project? 2. A quick scan of the articles I see you tend to use plain wikitables. The German lists tend to use templates for the individual entries and their area containers like de:Vorlage:Denkmalliste Bayern Tabellenzeile used as

{{Denkmalliste Bayern Tabellenkopf|Gemeinde=Freising}} 
{{Denkmalliste Bayern Tabellenzeile
|Adresse= Alte Poststraße 5
|NS=48.40392
|EW=11.75005
|Bezeichnung= Wohnhaus
|Beschreibung=kleiner zweigeschossiger Schopfwalmbau mit Erker, Zwerchhaus und aufwändiger Fassadengliederung im Stil der Neurenaissance, erbaut 1888
|Nummer=D-1-78-124-1
|Bild= Alte Poststr 5 Freising.JPG
|Commonscat=
}}

where the templates are state specific due to different registration and numbering systems used. Do you have similar template already in use, or would there be an objection if the German Structure would be imported for the German lists. In particular I like the feature of being able to add a Commons category to every object. Agathoclea (talk) 11:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Getting involved[edit]

I was turned on to this project by some of Doncram's articles about historic structures. Can someone point me in the direction of how I might contribute to our create some of my own articles that are relevant to this project? Cheers! QuantifiedElf (talk) 19:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

AfC submission[edit]

Relevant submission to this Project. Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:02, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Please help get UK listed buildings ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September![edit]

In September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed structures of significant importance (eg grades I or grade II* or equivalent), as recorded by English Heritage, Historic Scotland, Cadw and the Northern Ireland Environment Agency . The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?

In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Many of the listed structures are residential or other buildings, but there are a significant number of rail-related listed structures that may be of specific interest to members of this project. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible structures are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the links, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?

Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by the official listing organizations. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.

The data still needs the attention of local editors:

  • The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list.
  • The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
  • The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
  • The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
  • Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the official database which can be checked if needed for details.
  • The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (N.B. if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
  • References may be added according to normal WP practice.

For further information, please see Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom.

If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.

Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.

--MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

A lot of new lists[edit]

For Wiki Loves Monuments we've been creating a lot of new lists. The templates used for these lists are in Category:Monument list templates and the talk pages in Category:Template-Class Historic sites articles. This project should probably be updated to include this new content. I would do it myself, but I'm a bit busy doing preparations for WLM. Multichill (talk) 11:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Here there is also estimates of how many monuments exists and so. emijrp (talk) 10:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

National Registry of Cultural Monuments (Estonia)[edit]

It has a database: http://register.muinas.ee/?lang=en

There is a Wikiproject over at the Estonian Wikipedia, which has broken the monuments down into by-locality lists:

Is it possible we could create a designation for this? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to User Study[edit]

Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 23:31, 15 February 2014 (UTC).

Heritage site[edit]

Hi, here is a note that the article Heritage site is nominated for deletion. Any thoughts can be added here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heritage site. Jane (talk) 11:27, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Historic site[edit]

...and here is a note that the article Historic site has been nominated for merging with National heritage site. Jane (talk) 20:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

List of World Heritage in Danger on the main page[edit]

List of World Heritage in Danger is scheduled to appear as Today's Featured List on 2 May 2014. As always, the more people watching the page the better, especially as this list has the potential to get lots of views. Nev1 (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Philippine Cultural Heritage sites WMF-sponsored initiative[edit]

There's a Wikimedia-GLAM sponsored project described at here which is generating photos and text documentation of Philippine Cultural Heritage sites. This came up at AFD about one new article created "Jusay Ancestral House". We need some stuff to be set up to accomodate these, such as a list-article and an infobox and a category. There are some brand new Wikipedia editors, including some who are themselves conducting interviews and otherwise performing primary-type research about the historic sites. So there will be issues to sort out, about what material, with what sourcing, when relative to properties achieving what level of listing status, etc., can be included into Wikipedia articles.

At the AFD, i offered to keep track of new articles created in this process, while asking AFD editors to hold off on nominating more for deletion. To do that, for now I'll start Category:Philippine Cultural Heritage sites, which could be renamed later. Any HSITES editors interested / able to help in any way? --doncram 16:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

The most recent entry on that blog is about Wiki Loves Monuments 2012, which seems unrelated to the article in question, created five days ago. Did you have something else in mind? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits
There has certainly been some activity around Category:Lists of Cultural Properties of the Philippines and there is a Category:Monuments and memorials in the Philippines. One recent article got deleted as a copyvio (Sariaya Ancestral houses). The ignored and deleted comment on its talkpage is most likely something we should look into. Agathoclea (talk) 18:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
What was that comment? Could you possibly copy that to here? --doncram 19:07, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Some of the info that I copy paste like for Villa Sariaya and Gala Rodriguez house are also authored by me. Eric Dedace where I get all my sources are also in communication with me and he is the one supplying the links from his page and he authorized me to use his articles). It's the mention of Eric Dedace that cought my attention. He certainly seems a valuable source of information due to the nature of his work. Agathoclea (talk) 19:29, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Agothoclea! It sounds like wp:OTRS might have been used to establish author permission for use of text published elsewhere, as an alternative to deletion. Could you possibly please provide a copy of the Sariaya Ancestral houses article and its talkpage to my userspace, including edit history? So that I might be fully informed in trying to correspond about that. I have started posting at wt:TAMBAY, by the way. --doncram 17:32, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Agathoclea (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
May be we should ask @Namayan: for some input. Agathoclea (talk) 18:48, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
There is current activity including a tomorrow-dated (because across the international date-line) posting at Philippine Heritage Map.Org (i will call this "PHM"). This mentions focus on the Visayas islands where historic sites were destroyed/damaged by Typhoon Haiyan (November 8, 2013) and where there was little/no documentation of the historic sites; the initiative is partly a reaction of that, and a continuation of GLAM-Wiki project I guess. PHM also mentions the 2009 "National Cultural Heritage" law which is available here (this URL works for me while the PHM's link did not). Seems like there's a call for people to take photos, write text about any apparent historic site, e.g. any having a historic plaque. Which is one way for a group of people to start, though it would be nice to work from a government-provided list of sites. PHM mentions Lists of Cultural Properties of the Philippines‎, whose Talk page could possibly be a focal point for development. --doncram 19:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC) --doncram 19:15, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
(Speaking in a personal capacity, and not as the Secretary of Wikimedia Philippines) I should note that the lists of Cultural Properties of the Philippines that are noted here on Wikipedia are based on the official list provided by the National Historical Commission of the Philippines, and were created originally for the purpose of facilitating Wiki Loves Monuments 2012. I suggest, however, that if you guys have any questions about the project, feel free to drop a line at WT:TAMBAY, or notify Namayan, Joelaldor (the project manager), Seav (WMPH President) or myself. Thanks. :) --Sky Harbor (talk) 13:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you all for the attention. We've trained some 50 people to edit Wikipedia with a primary focus on Philippine heritage sites. Philippine law declares that structures that are at least 50 years old are considered heritage sites. We will greatly appreciate all the help the community could provide to help these new Wikipedia editors (who will be uploading also on Wikimedia Comomons) with their articles and prevent them from being deleted. We know the 3-day workshop isn't enough, but we are all communicating on our Facebook group should they need any help. -- Namayan (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

List of state protected Monuments in Telangana/Andhra Pradesh[edit]

Dear members of this project, please take a look of these above mentioned articles and their history. The Telangana article seems to have been copied from the Andhra Pradesh article alongwith from ASI website as noted and tagged by CorenSearchBot in this edit. User:Vin09, who created the Telangana one had possibly ripped off info from Andhra Pradesh for the Telangana one. Editors could please check if the Telangana one or the concerned user has flouted any guideline. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ)(Support) 23:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Historic Sites At Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adikhajuria (talkcontribs) 16:13, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

St James' Church, Aslackby[edit]

A new one just uploaded. Can I have a Project assessment on the Talk page please. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

New designation for the Queensland Heritage Register[edit]

I would like to use the Historic Site infobox for articles on the Queensland Heritage Register and so I need a designation. I believe this register meets all the criteria:

  1. It is a register that exists under legislation of the state of Queensland
  2. The article Queensland Heritage Register has existed for some time on Wikipedia
  3. Its scope is State/Provincial and currently has 1692 entries (and will continue to grow slowly over time)
  4. The text should be "Queensland Heritage Register" (which is its official name and is unambiguous). If it needed to be shorter, the word "Register" could be dropped. The Queensland official state colour is maroon #73182C so that would be the preferred colour, but if it needs to be lighter for accessibility, would #ff405d be OK? If not, then of the colours suggested I guess the pink #FFC0CB would be closest.
  5. The designation could be "QueenslandHR" or use the standard abbreviation Qld such as "QldHR"; whatever is most consistent and non-conflicting with other designations.

Thanks Kerry (talk) 01:40, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I probably should add that there are around 200 Wikipedia articles on sites listed on the Queensland, see Category:Queensland Heritage Register. However, I have the remaining ones in draft at the moment (thanks to parts of the register being recently released under CC-BY and in a format somewhat amenable to automated article creation) so there is a realistic prospect of all 1600+ entries having their own article fairly soon so I would like to sort out this designation fairly quickly (as obviously creating the infobox by automation now is a lot less work than making 1600+ manually later). Kerry (talk) 01:49, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Could we do this for all the Australian state and territory registers at the same time? They're all in the same boat; Queensland is just lucky enough to have someone who's really organised! The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:29, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposal for task forces[edit]

Hello. Sometimes I work on Spanish historic sites articles. I propose creating task forces by country in the {{WikiProject Historic sites}} template. Are you ok with this? emijrp (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Please do it if you are going to participate more or less actively.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:26, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox building maps[edit]

Please join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Architecture#Template:Infobox_building_maps regarding improving the mapping functionality of {{Infobox building}}.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

State Register of Immovable Monuments of Ukraine[edit]

we`d add more than 3000 buildings from State Register of Immovable Monuments of Ukraine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew J.Kurbiko (talkcontribs) 13:18, 16 November 2014‎

@Andrew J.Kurbiko: That sounds excellent. Do you plan to create an article on each, or make lists? Also, make sure they get added to Wikidata, too. Do you need any help? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:46, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
my idea is template, list and general article creation and also, caregorizing some of this places with theirs numbers--Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) 13:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Lists are already in the Ukrainian Wikipedia, they need to be imported and translated. Commons categories are a big mess.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)