Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History of Science
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- 1 Portal:History
- 2 Major Depressive Disorder (Vincent van Gogh: "At Eternity's Gate")
- 3 Teylers Challenge: history of science
- 4 History of medicine
- 5 Request for Comment
- 6 Help needed with adding correct categories
- 7 Soviet science articles
- 8 Help with edit request
- 9 FAR
- 10 Wikimedian in Residence
- 11 Germ theory of disease
- 12 Wikipedian in Residence: Natural History Museum, London
- 13 RfC Input needed
- 14 Wikipedian in Residence: Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums
- 15 Mahoney biography
- 16 Parable of the Sunfish at peer review
- 17 Request for Comment
- 18 File:Sidereus Nuncius Medicean Stars.jpg
- 19 Edit-a-thon Invitation
- 20 50 images from the Science Museum collection
- 21 One of your project's articles has been featured
- 22 Catholic / Eastern Orthodox Division Before 1054?
- 23 Come and join The Wikipedia Library
- 24 Invitation to WikiProject Invention
- 25 Input welcome regarding Pseudoscience
- 26 One of your project's articles has been featured
- 27 Wikimedian-in-Residence at the Royal Society
- 28 ThatCampPhilly Edit-a-thon Invitation
- 29 Citation Wrong
- 30 Ernst Mayr - this article needs help
- 31 Populate: Template:Science commemorative events
- 32 History of rifling
- 33 List of Romanian words of possible Dacian origin
- 34 Portal:Technology for featured candidacy
- 35 Portal technology for featured candidacy
- 36 Call for expert attention at "Species" article (evolutionary/organismal biology, microbial evolution, history of science)
Major Depressive Disorder (Vincent van Gogh: "At Eternity's Gate")
I refer the group to this thread on the Talk page at Major Depressive Disorder concerning the use of Vincent van Gogh's painting "At Eternity's Gate" in that article and to this comment of mine pointing out it has no place in the article and should be removed.
The essence of the complaint is that is fully documented that van Gogh's painting is not at all, nor was ever meant to be, a portrayal of depressive disorder but is rather merely a study of an old man. For that reason alone it should be removed for reasons of encyclopaedic accuracy.
As it stands it necessarily makes a judgement about the nature of depressive disorder, that it necessarily implies despair, even that it necessarily implies suicidal ideation (because of its title and van Gogh's own well known suicide). It is very much to be regretted indeed in my opinion that a Wikipedia administrator, Casliber, a practicising psychiatrist it seems but a poor historian of art, appears to be the prime mover behind perpetuating these poor judgements.
It also mythologises Vincent van Gogh himself who took the greatest care to separate his difficulties in life from his work; the nature of whose illness is not settled but which is not certainly typical of a depressive disorder; who is not documented as suffering from suicidal depressive moods in the last months of his life when this painting was completed and whose suicide itself has in the past year been plausibly questioned by a respected source as rather a manslaughter.
I ask that the image be removed. If it is felt necessary, and I cannot imagine why it should be, that the article be illustrated by a fine art image, then I suggest the original image, Durer's Melancholia, be reinserted. Skirtopodes (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Teylers Challenge: history of science
Allow me to draw your attention to the Wiki Project Teylers: a collaboration between Wikipedia and Teylers Museum (Haarlem, the Netherlands) to improve the content of articles related to Teylers Museum and its collections: Wikipedia:GLAM/Teylers/Multilingual_Challenge. Established in 1778, Teylers Museum was originally founded as a centre for contemporary art and science. Martinus van Marum, the museum's first director, corresponded with Herschel, Volta, Goethe and other leading scientist of the Enlightenment period. Van Marum was the first to introduce Lavoisier's oxygen theory in the Netherlands. He also commissioned the largest electrostatic generator in the world for Teylers Museum (still on view in the museum). The entire collection of Teylers Physical Cabinet is available online: museum website You can find more information on Teylers Museum, its history and its scientific activities in the past on a special website:Teylers Universe 1778-1826. For the Teylers Challenge we are still looking for people who'd be interested in writing / expanding articles on the history of science! The museum can supply pictures and sources.Gjjanse (talk) 12:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
History of medicine
Hello all. We at Wikiproject medicine are working on a project to improve and translate 80 or so key medical articles into as many other languages as possible. This is being done with the help of an NGO called Translators Without Borders. The project is discussed in detail here with the list of articles being worked on here Book:Health care. Help improving the "history of medicine" sections before translation would be appreciated. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Request for Comment
I am involved in a content discussion on Talk:Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory#Mutual Misunderstings? with a gentleman identifying himself as the senior science writer for that facility, regarding the nature of relationship of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory to the Eugenics Record Office. I invite any disinterested by knowledgeable editors to review the discussion and weigh in. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Help needed with adding correct categories
Stumbled on Tycho Brahe's (alleged) Calendarium Naturale Magicum Perpetuum and ended up pulling together a stub on the calendar and its "author" Johann Baptist Grossschedel. Outside my normal interests, so stuck at what cats to add. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Soviet science articles
I've left some notes Talk:Suppressed research in the Soviet Union#One-sided take on Soviet science and Talk:Science and technology in the Soviet Union on the need for better coverage of the history of Soviet science. If anybody else wants to help with expansion, I'm certainly up for it. Peter G Werner (talk) 01:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Help with edit request
I have nominated Barbara McClintock for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Wikimedian in Residence
I'm organizing a Wikipedia:GLAM residence at Brown University's Ladd Observatory in Providence, Rhode Island. The project involves adding images and article improvement for history of science topics relating to astronomy and timekeeping. A draft of the project description is at Outreach:Wikipedian in Residence/Ladd Observatory. Any feedback, suggestions or help spreading the word would be greatly appreciated. --mikeu talk 14:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Germ theory of disease
Wikipedian in Residence: Natural History Museum, London
Just to let you know that the Natural History Museum in London is advertising for a Wikipedian in Residence, working jointly there and at the Science Museum next door; it's a paid post for four months, and applications are open until 10th February. I've worked with Ed Baker at the NHM to define the scope of the program, and it looks really promising - there's some real opportunities for interesting projects here. Details are available on the National Museums site, and there's some details about other upcoming UK residency programs here.
RfC Input needed
Wikipedian in Residence: Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums
Just to let you know that the Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums are advertising for a Wikipedian in Residence (announcement). It's a funded post, part-time through spring and early summer, based in Newcastle (so may well suit a student). Applications are open until 4th March. They're particularly interested in the prospect of someone wanting to work with the shipbuilding & industrial history collections, and digitising some of the material they have in their archives.
Parable of the Sunfish at peer review
I'd like to invite editors interested in the history of biology to comment at the peer review for Parable of the Sunfish: Ezra Pound ponders literary and scientific epistemology by way of 19th C. pre-Darwinist biology. Many thanks, Garamond Lethet
c 18:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Request for Comment
Would someone with expertise in complex Fourier series comment on the points I make in the Deferent and Epicycle article talk page - Is the Mathematical Formalism subsection correct?. Thanks. Dnessett (talk) 17:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
File:Sidereus Nuncius Medicean Stars.jpg
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I would like to invite everyone here to participate. We are very excited about this opportunity to share resources from the Chemical Heritage Foundation on Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
50 images from the Science Museum collection
I'm the Wikimedian in Residence for the Natural History Museum and Science Museum in London. The Science Museum have agreed to release 50 of it's images (at a medium resolution) under a Wikimedia compatible license. The 2 websites that the images would be available from are:
- http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/ (has to say copyright Science Museum)
I'm hoping this is the start of something larger but could just be a one off so am trying to come up with a most wanted list.
I've started a list of images to release on my talk page, please feel free to add to it, I'd like to get over 50 so if there are any problems we still have a good list.
One of your project's articles has been featured
Catholic / Eastern Orthodox Division Before 1054?
I think it's a little misleading to separate the "East" and the "West" churches before the Great East-West Schism in A.D. 1054. It suggests that before this date the divide existed, when in fact many if not all of the thinkers before 1054 on both "sides" listed in this article would be "claimed" by both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians. Is it possible to use two colors (red & yellow) for thinkers before the Schism? I know this list has the potential to get more convoluted and I don't mean to nitpick, but it is slightly important.
Just to give an example of one of these guys, Pope Sylvester II is listed as Catholic. That's fine, he was a Bishop of Rome in the West so it's fair to call him "Catholic". However, because he reigned before the Great Schism, Eastern Orthodox Christians also acknowledge him as a valid bishop of Rome who was very much in communion with the East and considered part of their Church (since the East and West were united at that time). So he can really be "claimed" by them as well.
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Invitation to WikiProject Invention
Input welcome regarding Pseudoscience
There is an ongoing ArbCom request for clarification and amendment concerning the ArbCom's earlier decisions on Pseudoscience. One element of the resulting discussion concerns the recent insertion of a lengthy, critical template on the talk pages of a large number of articles that are categorized as Pseudoscience. Most of these talk pages concern articles providing historical discussions of, but not advocacy of, specific pseudosciences (see e.g., Talk:Flat Earth; Talk:Astrology). Input is welcome from editors who can provide brief reasoned comments on the significance of this template to historical articles. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 21:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
One of your project's articles has been featured
Wikimedian-in-Residence at the Royal Society
The Royal Society, the UK's science academy, is recruiting a Wikimedian-in-Residence to help them work more closely with Wikipedia. The position is part-time (one day per week) for a fixed term of 6 months. See here for more information and details of how to apply. For additional information please contact me at francis.bacon [AT] royalsociety.org Andeggs (talk) 14:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
ThatCampPhilly Edit-a-thon Invitation
|Please join the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at THATCamp Philly, September 27, 2013, held at the Chemical Heritage Foundation. Bring your own content to work on, or get an early start on Ada Lovelace Day with our resources about women in science, chemistry and the history of science. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC)|
Reference (p19-20) has NOTHING to do with the quotation. I do not know how to edit...
Galileo's Leaning Tower of Pisa experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo's_Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa_experiment "According to a biography by Galileo's pupil Vincenzo Viviani, in 1589 the Italian scientist Galileo had dropped two balls of different masses from the Leaning Tower of Pisa to demonstrate that their time of descent was independent of their mass. "  ^ Drake, S. (1978). Galileo At Work. University of Chicago Press. pp. 19–20. ISBN 0-226-16226-5.
Google Books Galileo at Work: http://books.google.com/books?id=cHNDo7p7FXQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:0226162265&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0F9IUqCvBsjH2QWboICABA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 17:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
- @220.127.116.11: A belated thanks for pointing this out. It turns out that a later edition does contain this information, so I have corrected the citation. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Ernst Mayr - this article needs help
Populate: Template:Science commemorative events
Hey All, created Template:Science commemorative events to present some structure and organization about events commemorating scientific achievements. Would greatly appreciate further population to the template or the associated category, Sadads (talk) 15:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
History of rifling
I was reading the History of Science for the year 1500 and found a listing for Rifling requesting citation. I did some checking online and found only one site that provided a possible specific reference. It states that some sources claim that rifling was invented by Augustus Kotter of Nuremberg in 1520. No other source gave as specific possible claim. The source seems fairly solid for the subject: http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/rifling-history.html. Should this be updated with this information and moved to the year 1520? JCO11163 (talk) 02:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Portal:Technology for featured candidacy
I've nominated Portal:Technology for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology. — Cirt (talk) 01:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Portal technology for featured candidacy
I've nominated Portal:Technology for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology. — Cirt (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Call for expert attention at "Species" article (evolutionary/organismal biology, microbial evolution, history of science)
[Section] Request: Subject matter experts with broad understanding of species meaning across Eucarya, Archaea, and Bacteria, a/o expertise in historical development of concept
I believe the structure of the article needs to be redesigned so that it reflects current understandings and priorities in the field, and that the quality of the article needs to be addressed to remove systemic issues (redundancy, substandard sourcing/idea appropriation/plagiarism, etc.). I will try to interest John Wilkins in providing some high level guidance [ see http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520271395 ]. In the mean time, thank you for any kind attention by true subject matter experts that might be brought to bear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)