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It seems like we'll keep the separate project banner. Fair enough ... there are a number of U.S. state projects where a city project has a separate banner, and I don't see why we can't. Although I would like to see some acknowledgement of the NY project in the HV banner.

But can we decide what should be in both projects and what should only be in WP:HVNY? County and major city articles (Newburgh, Poughkeepsie and Kingston, probably Beacon and Peekskill) definitely belong to both NY as a whole and HV.

However, a lot of the RHPs I've been doing really aren't of statewide importance, and I think most schools would be better served by a regional designation. Any other thoughts? Daniel Case (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Assessments[edit]

I've been working for a few days to get Category:Unassessed Hudson Valley articles down from 80+ articles to just over 20, and counting. I think we should make it a priority to assess every article with the Hudson Valley tag. Thanks, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd be happy to lend a hand with assessments, but I am quite new at it. Are either you or Daniel willing to give me a mini-mentoring on the subject?--otherlleft (talk) 02:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Roads task-force[edit]

I've also been working (and I still am) to place the project banner and assess as many articles as I can find, and a good part of the are road articles, many of which are only Stub and Start-class. Any thoughts on a HV roads task-force? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I think NYSR already takes care of that. There's a fair amount of overlap there anyway. Daniel Case (talk) 16:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I propsed a HV task-force there, too. There is overlap, but generally the NYSR works on routes in western and central NY. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 16:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Huh? The most active editors may focus in those areas but the project is indeed statewide. – TMF 20:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, then I'll be part of it there because I've done so much on HV-area roads. Daniel Case (talk) 16:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the project is statewide, but there is next to no activity in the Hudson Valley roads except for myself and Daniel Case. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
And someone from WNY could argue that there's next to no activity there except for the edits that I make. I commented on this at NYSR and opposed it for one solid reason: sure, there may be stubs and starts in the Hudson Valley but there's also a boatload of recognized content (GA+) originating from the area. So in short, it's no better or worse than any other area of the state. I also don't see what this proposed task force can provide that NYSR doesn't. – TMF 04:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

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Historic places in each county: photos and editors wanted[edit]

See new table format lists of Registered Historic Places, with room for a photo of each one, in List of Registered Historic Places in Columbia County, New York, etc. Click on the Google map link to see the exact locations of almost all of the NRHP properties and districts in each one.

  1. Westchester
  2. Rockland
  3. Orange
  4. Putnam
  5. Sullivan
  6. Ulster
  7. Dutchess
  8. Columbia
  9. Rensselaer
  10. Albany
  11. Greene

Enjoy... doncram (talk) 00:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll help get pictures for Dutchess, Putnam, and Ulster, if needed. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I've got a lot in the pipeline for those counties, actually. But if there's something out near you (would that be Patterson/Pawling, judging from your contribs) by all means. I can help you find these places. Maybe we could even get together some weekend. Daniel Case (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I'm close to Hyde Park in Dutchess, but I go down to Patterson pretty often. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hyde Park? I would never have guessed. I have actually photographed most of Hyde Park's RHPs and they're in the pipeline for future articles; but there are some further inland other than Top Cottage that I've not gotten to (Crum Elbow Meeting House, I think). I can let you know which ones if you want to go shoot them. Daniel Case (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Heh. I know I usually work on articles related to Putnam County, but I guess it would be more practical to work on things close to my area...oh well. That would be great if you could let me know which ones ones don't have pictures yet, and I'll try to get them soon. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 19:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Should there be a Valley subcat in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in New York as there are for NYC, LI and some other places? Jim.henderson (talk) 12:54, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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New York City Wikipedian Meetup November 16[edit]

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Veteran, Ulster County[edit]

Is there anyone in this project that can shed some light on Veteran, Ulster County, New York? If I didn't drive past a sign for it from time to time I wouldn't believe that there is such a place; I have had no success in locating any information on it online (as the name isn't exactly unique). It's real enough to be in the HV navigation template, so I was hoping someone could shed some light on it, even if it's not verifiable light. If I ever had a day off that was not a holiday or weekend I would haunt the town halls and the Ulster County Clerk to find out where this place got its name, and exactly what sort of place it is . . . it's a real DYK in the making!--otherlleft (talk) 03:05, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

My understanding, from the many histories of the Catskills I've read, is that it gets its name from a Continental Army veteran who was pretty much the sole inhabitant of the area for many years. It's not in Arthur Adams' Catskills gazzetteer, but I know I read it somewhere. I'm pretty sure the Saugerties town historian would be able to tell you something and give you a source. Daniel Case (talk) 04:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
That's what I thought would be a good place to start. Of course finding him on Veteran's Day would have been tricky!--otherlleft (talk) 15:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Capital District[edit]

Hello fellow Hudson Valley residents (and other interested parties)! I am working with Camelbinky in creating WikiProject Capital District. For those of you unfamiliar with the area, the Capital District is the area that encompasses Albany, Schenectady, and Troy. We are hoping that some of you would be interested in helping out in marking articles under the scope of this WikiProject. We also need help developing the project page! Many of you probably live here and we'd greatly appreciate your help on this new baby project. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 03:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, though I'm not sure if the scope is broad enough. In any event, Columbia county is ours! :) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 04:41, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I may be starting an inadvertent war, but I just labeled CC as a CapDist-related topic. I mean, you guys do shop at Crossgates and many people do work in Albany (especially for the state), right? 0:-) ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm ... it would depend. We discussed above what our cutoff should be ... I am certainly, as I have indicated elsewhere, in favor of a WikiProject Capital District as I have contributed relevant material (see a lot of entries in Category:Cohoes, New York and Central Troy Historic District), and I have lots of pictures of NRHP listings in Albany and Schenectady yet to process and create articles for.

Defining the northern end of the Hudson Valley is a little hard ... Julian and I tentatively agreed that it would be Troy and Watervliet because that's where the navigable river ends. But Hudson Valley has always covered things all the way up to Albany and Troy, and certainly that includes Columbia County as well. Perhaps we should just allow Columbia articles to be listed in both projects, while north of it only riverside communities and river-related things get listed? Daniel Case (talk) 20:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Daniel Case, but I propose a small borderline. North of NY 295 is CD and below of NY 295 is HV?Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 21:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I would consider also that I'm not sure people in southern Columbia County identify with Albany so much. Yes, they're beyond the reach of Metro-North, don't have to pay the extra MTA sales tax and, if they work in New York City, are more likely to live in CC on weekends and vacation periods only. But only the northern part of the county (the Kinderhook area, Chatham and New Lebanon) feel Capital District, while Clermont and certainly Copake don't, seeming rather more like an extension of northern Dutchess County, in the same way that even Greenville on the other side of the river doesn't feel like CD (making the exclusion of Greene County more sensible).

So Mitch's suggestion does make sense to some degree. But I would also want to keep stuff closer to the river up to Troy Dam. Daniel Case (talk) 21:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Addendum: I thought about the overlapping-regions issue a long time ago on this page, and I'm glad I did now. The fact is there are going to be some things that overlap besides the road articles already included in both projects. This will be relevant if there is ever a WikiProject Catskills; and the Capital District Project will at some point have to consider where it would give way to a hypothetical future WikiProject Adirondacks at its north (But for now my suggestion is to claim all the counties on the north).

I think the HV project can take all the communities, and anything of significance, in Columbia County west of the Taconic and east of the Taconic south of either I-90 or NY 23. In Albany and Rensselaer counties, I would include the articles about only the settlements near the river and anything related to the river (tributaries, bridges, and riverside landmarks like Central Troy Historic District and Fort Crailo, say) or of regional significance (the Selkirk rail yard, if we ever get to doing it). Certainly not every RHP article in Albany County will go under HV (I will move U.S. Post Office (Delmar, New York) out of HV and into CD now; that was always an awkward fit). Or every secondary school for that matter. Daniel Case (talk) 23:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. HV is usually (or so I think!) considered to end around the Rip Van Winkle Bridge. I-90 is a bit far north. --Regent's Park (Boating Lake) 00:11, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, Kinderhook is certainly north of that bridge, and usually considered part of the HV as well as, perhaps, the CD. My main point is that the two are not mutually exclusive geographically. New York has quite a few instances where its regions overlap (parts of the Finger Lakes are also part of Western New York, and others in Central New York). Daniel Case (talk) 05:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Capital District. Responding to my suggestion, Wadester created a proposal there. I did not visit this Talk page earlier and was not aware of this discussion going on here. Anyhow, I think the Proposals page is the right place to discuss coordination between wp:HVNY and that proposal. doncram (talk) 04:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

A thought[edit]

NYC and Hartford are both pretty far away, so I was thinking about organizing a Capitol District meetup. It'll be more convenient for Hudson Valley residents, and we'd probably still see folks from NYC. Just a thought. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 06:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll never go to NYC, but Albany I would consider.--otherlleft 03:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Request for revision of scope of WikiProject Hudson Valley[edit]

As some members of this WikiProject know, I have taken a position supporting(?) and/or opposing (?) the proposal for WikiProject Capital District and/or WikiProject New York Capital District, in part on grounds that its scope should be defined clearly with respect to WP:HVNY. I believe that for the success of the Capital one, it would be better served by clarifying a borderline inbetween its scope and the scope for WP:HVNY. Could the good people of this wikiproject concede that some downward adjustment of scope of WP:HVNY be allowed, in order to allow for non-overlapping borders? I expect you are the experts, but offhand it has been my understanding that the "Hudson Valley" region refers to counties south of Albany, that the Hudson River school of painting refers to paintings south of Albany, etc. (though I am aware some Hudson River school painters also trekked up into the Adirondacks on occasion). I don't care about which the border should be exactly, but perhaps the dividing line suggested by the New York State's official tourist regions mapping could be adopted.

Juliancolton has noted elsewhere that he does not see that overlap between these WikiProjects would be a problem, but he did not comment that realignment would or would not be a problem either. He and at least one other member here set an example by already signing up to be members of the other WikiProject, so I do not see why "turf" issues should be important. If you want to work on articles across a given border, you can be a member of that wikiproject too. I, for one, do see it as a problem for explaining this and the other WikiProject to possible future members, and also for causing duplication of efforts in banners and ratings and so on. It is a small issue on each article webpage, to have overcrowding from multiple wikiproject banners. It is a small but also numerous issue to determine whether just one or just the other or both of the WikiProjects apply for a given place. If others think there is no problem, then they also should not object to reducing the scope of WP:HVNY to avoid the issue that is perceived by some (i.e. me at least), or they should clarify why they would object, please. doncram (talk) 09:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't remember where it is now, but I think we rejected NY's official tourist map's distinctions as creating divisions that don't exist in real life. I have said elsewhere as well that I believe that along the river in Rensselaer and Albany counties, there is space for a certain overlap because the river's estuary goes all the way to Troy and the riverside communities up there are considered to be part of the Hudson Valley as well (Certainly Hudson Valley has no problem listing events and reviewing restaurants in Albany, Troy, Rensselaer and Watervliet). If we really want to be sticklers about this we can stop at Greene and Columbia counties. Daniel Case (talk) 21:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Is there a downside to simply exercising judgment when selecting articles for each project, and obtaining consensus if it's not clear if an article belongs in one, the other, or both? I don't know if clear borders are helpful, much less necessary. A community or topic that falls on one side may very well be clearly belonging to the tother project for any number of reasons. As for explaining to new members, we can just point them to common sense.--otherlleft 03:54, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Comment on Dunderberg Mountain Article[edit]

If anyone has time to contribute, please do some work on this article and/or comment at Talk:Dunderberg Mountain. Calamitybrook (talk) 18:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Possible redesign of the page?[edit]

I recently finished an overhaul redesign of WP:WikiProject Capital District (compare before and after) and I would be happy to do it for this project as well. Would members be interested in me doing this? Please respond below with a !vote and if there's consensus I'll get working. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Show me what you'd like to do, and let's get Julian in on this. I was impressed with the WPCD page. Daniel Case (talk) 04:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Now that I've re-read this, do your italics mean you prefer the older WP:CD design to the new one? ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 16:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)\
No, I'm just emphasizing how muhc I like the new one. Daniel Case (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh good! ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
It would essentially be like WP:CD, but a different color palette (maybe a green theme?). I can make a mockup (which would essentially be the final product anyway) as a sub-page to display it if necessary, but the current WP:CD is pretty close to what I imagine. Prolly have to wait till end of this week though. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
It would be great to have this page re-designed. I've been meaning to do it for a while now. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll probably get started this weekend, if not earlier. School and RfA questions are taking up the brunt of my time :) ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Just kidding it's done. Any major problems/issues? I think I've included most, if not all of the info on the previous version. Some of the text for the header and scope were taken verbatim from WPCD. Feel free to reword or expand upon what's here (obviously). I consider this a base for what's to come. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Recent Contributions Needing Improvement[edit]

Bear Mountain Inn
Bear Mountain Bridge
Dunderberg Mountain

Calamitybrook (talk) 22:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

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Importance[edit]

I think we need a criteria for importance ratings. Here's what I have in mind:

  • Counties and major geographical features (such as Hudson River or Catskill Mountains) are high-importance, with top-importance reserved for the Hudson Valley article.
  • Cities, large towns, major attractions, and misc. well-known features are generally mid-importance.
  • NRHP listings, small towns and villages, bridges, roads, and smaller geographical features are generally low-importance.

Thoughts? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure size should be the determining factor. There are a number of things that fit mid-importance by your criteria that I think should be top; West Point for example. I'm not quite sure what it should be. One factor might be using something like the American Heritage Rivers to help select those items some how AHR Ahwiv (talk) 23:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Agree that West Point should be high. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I would consider the river article to be top-importance as well (no river, no valley). Any potential "History of the Hudson Valley" article should also be top-importance.

West Point should probably also be high, and I would argue for the same status for another National Historic Landmark District on the river, the Hudson River Historic District (largest historic district on mainland US, basically the essence of the Hudson Valley in 35 square miles). I would also argue that something like Halve Maen deserves high importance.

Significant regional news events like the PCB cleanup (if we ever devote a separate article to it, which we should) and Tawana Brawley, are probably mid-importance. I also think some larger villages like New Paltz (due to the college) and Catskill (county seat) ought to be of mid-importance as well. And maybe Rhinebeck and Millbrook as well (popular city weekend destination, upscale residence in the first instance and celebrity residences in the other). Daniel Case (talk) 09:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


You guys should back off on the whole question. I don't think personal opinions about "importance" are important. It is inevitably rather subjective and a small-scale consensus that might be produced among a handful of "editors" would be very insignificant.
Far better to focus on improving articles. That's my view.

Calamitybrook (talk) 18:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Non-Hudson valley portions of counties[edit]

Hi, does this wikiproject seek to cover, or accept coverage of, non-Hudson Valley locations within counties that do have large portions in Hudson Valley.

For example, Glen Island Park (New Rochelle, New York), in Westchester County, is in Long Island sound. I would like to add places like this to the most specifically relevant geo-based wikiproject and would prefer to add WikiProject Hudson Valley rather than WikiProject New York. doncram (talk) 19:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, for various practical reasons dealing with a longrunning dispute there is need to have a WikiProject which will handle New Rochelle and other Westchester County articles. I can put up a proposal at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals area for a separate WikiProject Westchester. However, I would prefer it should be a Task Force of WP:HVNY if you would welcome, or at least not reject the idea. It would need to have its own membership list and one of those article quality ratings X importance ratings tables. doncram (talk) 19:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
I think as a task force it would work better than a separate project. Daniel Case (talk) 19:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Just doing some quick research, it seems this is obviously covered by WPHV. Westchester County is completely within the region regardless of having a coastline. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Westchester is definitely within the scope of the Hudson Valley (especially northern portions of the county). –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Note that I added a phrase to the Scope page to indicate it should include all of Westchester. Please feel free to discuss if you wish.--Arg342 (talk) 02:19, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

New Rochelle discussion notice[edit]

New Rochelle problem discussion notification: I've opened a new discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Long-running problem with respect to New Rochelle area articles.

This relates to a perhaps overly complicated 4 part proposal i opened on March 26, which was closed on March 27 and archived at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive187#Proposal for unban, apology, amnesty for Jvolkblum and related others, and topic ban for Orlady.

I am hoping that WikiProject Hudson Valley may play a role in solving the long-running problem. I think it is a problem that won't go away. I've also provided a courtesy notice to all parties who had more than a one word comment in the previous discussion. doncram (talk) 03:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

TFA[edit]

New York State Route 311 is on the main page as Today's Featured Article. Just a heads-up. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Museum at Bethel Woods merger[edit]

I've suggested that Museum at Bethel Woods be merged into the article on the Bethel Woods Center for the Arts, of which it is part. A discussion has commenced on the Museum talk page. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 18:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Merge Bear Mountain State Park/Harriman State Park[edit]

There is no formal proposal for this but I'd like to suggest it.
Alternately, perhaps explain within the articles how and why they are separate entities, and why their separation is in any sense, significant.
Also, explain within each article, the extent to which, in practice, they are a single unit.

Calamitybrook (talk) 13:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Good point. The people at PIPC will get very mad if we imply they're one unit. I think your alternative is better. Daniel Case (talk) 20:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Am unaware of anything to suggest that they aren't administered as a single unit. But am not, in any event, suggesting that inaccurate material be incorporated.
These two chunks of land are of greatest interest and are best understood when considered together rather than separately, as did, for example, the author William Myles, who is or would be the obvious source for much of current content.
I don't know whether PIPC "got mad" at Myles, but if so, why would it be relevant?


Calamitybrook (talk) 17:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Tech Valley[edit]

I am working on a sandbox version of a future Tech Valley article here, and I could use some input from people who have more experience with places such as Kingston, Poughkeepsie, and Newburgh. As I continue to work on it the information I will be putting in will continue to make the article more and more Capital District-oriented and that would skew the article from its intent, to cover the entire Tech Valley. Tech Valley is 19 counties including all Hudson Valley counties except Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam. Tech Valley includes Orange, Dutchess, and Ulster all of which are very important high-tech counties.Camelbinky (talk) 00:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

AfD for John C. Tkazyik[edit]

Article on the mayor of Poughkeepsie is up for deletion. Interested editors may wish to weigh in. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 17:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

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Category:Education in Poughkeepsie, New York[edit]

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Template:Hvportal[edit]

FYI, {{Hvportal}} has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.210.155 (talk) 05:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Now replaced by {{portal|Hudson Valley}}. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:32, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I wish someone had notified me of the deletion discussion beforehand. That template had at least a couple useful purposes which are now lost. Juliancolton (talk) 03:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't see what we gained by having lots of portal-specific templates when one could do the job, as it does now, with the appropriate arguments. Daniel Case (talk) 14:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

HV Banner needs more classes[edit]

A while back, I recommended new classes for Project Long Island articles, including Template, Redirect, Image, Category, etcetera. Now, I say WikiProject Hudson Valley banners should bet the same things. ----DanTD (talk) 02:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hudson Valley articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

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We would like to ask you to review the Hudson Valley articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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Hudson Valley towns[edit]

I have finished up Timeline of town creation in the Hudson Valley and hope it comes in handy for anyone who wants to expand/cleanup some of the town and county article history sections out there. Mostly I relied on French's Gazetteer of the State of New York but backed it up with the actual state laws that incorporated the individual towns and corrected with the appropriate official source where French was wrong.Camelbinky (talk) 17:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

A-class review request[edit]

I'm requesting an A-Class review for Wallkill Valley Rail Trail, which has just become a GA. None of the involved projects have a formal A-Class method, so I'm requesting that two editors review the article and support its promotion. I'm reposting this request on the talk pages of all involved projects.
--Gyrobo (talk) 03:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll do this; I live close enough to it anyway. Daniel Case (talk) 15:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! If you need a copy of Carleton Mabee's Listen to the Whistle for your review, I've taken out the one at the Gardiner library. The Elting Library in New Paltz should have some.
--Gyrobo (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
I've updated my notice on the other relevant talk pages to say that you've volunteered to participate. Maybe that will bring over someone who was thinking, "well, I would, but would anyone else?"
--Gyrobo (talk) 23:58, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Featured portal[edit]

I nominated P:HUDSON for featured portal. The portal affects the whole project, so if anyone wanted to help out at the nomination, that would be cool.
--Gyrobo (talk) 01:14, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Assessment criteria[edit]

I just noticed that WikiProject Hudson Valley doesn't have project-specific assessment criteria like the New York and Capital District projects do. The current assessment system appears to be very subjective, so I thought I'd make a proposal for something more formal:

  • Top importance – Hudson Valley counties and cities; geographic features and infrastructure that span multiple counties; people who had a major influence on the region; events or movements that had a major influence on the region's culture.
  • High importance – Villages, towns, and noteworthy-but-unincorporated population centers; geographic features and infrastructure that span a county or have some historical significance; historic districts; people who had a considerable impact on the region's history; events or movements that had a considerable impact on the region's culture.
  • Mid importance – Remaining population centers; historic buildings; people, events and movements that had a moderate impact on the region's history; minor geographic landmarks.
  • Low importance – Any person, place or thing that is connected to the region but doesn't meet the criteria for the other levels of importance.

I think it would also be helpful if the project allowed more classes, such as template, project, category, and portal. --Gyrobo (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead (I see you've been using this in a lot of your recent assessments). And yes, we can certainly use the non-article assessments.

However, in most other projects I've noticed they've limited top-importance to very few articles. In our case, I think it should be reserved for Hudson Valley and Hudson River, with all those other things in high-importance. Daniel Case (talk) 13:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I added the extra classes, but I don't think we should be limiting the number of top-priority articles. The Hudson River School and Henry Hudson are just as key to the region's history as Kingston and Poughkeepsie. And we definitely need to do a better job grading the importance of municipalities; in WPNY, all places are mid or higher. If we reserve top for the river itself, then we have fewer options for counties, cities, villages, towns, hamlets, and neighborhoods. Low should really only be used for things that are tangentially related to the project. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Counties[edit]

Which counties are in the scope of this project? There are some companies headquartered in Westchester County (Armonk, Harrison) and I would like to see these companies go from WP:NY to a more specific WikiProject, if possible WhisperToMe (talk) 05:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

I've always felt just about everything Westchester (save maybe the communities along the Long Island Sound) to merit inclusion here. Armonk ... do you mean IBM? Given their presence in Poughkeepsie, East Fishkill and at one time Kingston, yes. Daniel Case (talk) 05:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Yep, in terms of Armonk I mean IBM and the publisher M. E. Sharpe.
For Harrison, it means Texaco, Pepsico, Mastercard. and the Atlas Air group (Atlas Air and Polar Air Cargo).
WhisperToMe (talk) 05:28, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries[edit]

I'm proposing a WLL event October 29 at the Albert Wisner Public Library, a really beautiful facility in Warwick township. I've had an initial contact with the library, and they're considering the unformed proposal. This is both a meetup for Orange County area Wikipedians and a chance to bond with the reliable source provider community. I'm not exactly sure what the program might entail, but I would be willing to teach several seminars on Wikipedia usage and beginning editing. I could also foresee some hands-on editing in the form of a local history (or other subject matter) live collaboration. I'm wondering if we couldn't invite attendees to bring their own devices and see how many different people we can get involved in trying to edit. Not everyone involved would need to be present; we could use dedicated editors to watch specific pages to help prevent utter chaos. Would any members of other Orange or Rockland county Wikipedians would like to join me in this WP:GLAM effort to help connect local libraries with the culture of Wikiprojects? I see no reason why we should limit this effort to one library if we could get others interested. BusterD (talk) 21:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, living at the other end of Orange County, and being as involved in WM-NYC as I am, I don't see why I shouldn't be involved. I have talked with User:Pharos about also having other events at the larger libraries in the region ... Middletown, Newburgh, Kingston, Poughkeepsie etc. There are other people both on- and off-wiki I could talk to, as well. Let me know what I can do. Daniel Case (talk) 20:16, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I'd be glad to get involved at more than one location myself. Thanks for jumping in. At this point everything is still somewhat speculative. But as a program emerges from discussion over at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Loves Libraries, it's a good idea to survey the area and see how many people like ourselves are interested. It's possible this could be way more than a meetup. BusterD (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

AfD notification: Hudson Valley[edit]

The article Hudson Valley has been nominated for deletion. Please Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hudson Valley for the discussion. Article has been tagged for WP:RESCUE. OpenInfoForAll (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Zero reason to think this will be deleted. Good time for us to improve it though. BusterD (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Closed as Snowball Keep within nine hours of nomination. New user with less than 50 edits nommed. BusterD (talk) 01:50, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Rail trail FAC input requested[edit]

Just a quick notice: the FAC for Hudson Valley Rail Trail has been open for a little over a month now, and needs additional input. The trail runs through Highland in Ulster County, up to the Hudson River. Any review would be appreciated. --Gyrobo (talk) 22:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Hudson Valley articles by quality and importance[edit]

The table of Hudson Valley articles by quality and importance now has no articles unrated as to quality or importance. When new articles are added to this project, I would appreciate it if the editor adding the article would also add the appropriate talk page templates with class= and importance= ratings. Editors who create articles can rate their own articles, at least at the stub, start, C and B levels. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Article assessment in relation to WPNY[edit]

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York#Article tagging in relation to subprojects. – TMF (talk) 21:11, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

East Ramapo Central School District photos[edit]

Who wants to take photos of the East Ramapo Central School District buildings, especially the district headquarters and high schools? Due to the battle between the Hasidic Jews and the Black and Hispanic groups (and also those, including other Jews, who ally with the pro-public school side) this district is fairly well known... WhisperToMe (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I might be going down to Rockland in a few weeks for some NRHP photos when it gets warmer and greener, I could do it then (although you have to be careful when photographing schools because people get paranoid if they see you; sometimes it's better done on weekends or holidays). Daniel Case (talk) 01:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
It's much easier to photograph on weekends and holidays anyway due to reduced traffic. So, I'll list the possibilities here (from highest priority to lowest) (See directions):
  • District headquarters: 105 South Madison Avenue, Spring Valley, New York 10977
  • Spring Valley High School: 361 E. RT. 59, Spring Valley, NY 10977 (for Spring Valley, New York)
  • Ramapo High School: 400 Viola Road, Spring Valley, NY 10977 (for New Hempstead)
  • Chestnut Ridge Middle School: 892 Route 45, Chestnut Ridge, NY (for Chestnut Ridge)
  • Pomona Middle School: 101 Pomona Road, Suffern, NY 10901 (for New Hempstead)
  • Elmwood Elementary School (4-6): 43 Robert Pitt Drive, Monsey, NY 10952 (for Monsey) - See sign
  • Lime Kiln Elementary School (4-6): 35 Lime Kiln Road, Suffern, NY 10901 (for Wesley Hills)
  • Hempstead Elementary School (1-6): 80 Brick Church Rd., Spring Valley, NY 10977
  • Kakiat Elementary School (4-6): 465 Viola Road, Spring Valley, NY 10977 (for Monsey)
  • Eldorado Elementary School (4-6): 5 Eldorado Dr, Chestnut Ridge, NY 10977 ‎(for Chestnut Ridge)
  • Grandview Elementary School (1-3) (for Wesley Hills): 151 Grandview Ave, Monsey, New York, 10952
  • Fleetwood Elementary School (1-3): 22 Fleetwood Avenue, Chestnut Ridge, New York 10977
  • Margetts Elementary School (1-3): 25 Margetts Road, Chestnut Ridge, New York 10952
  • Summit Park Elementary School (1-3) (for New Hempstead): 925 Route 45, New City, NY 10956
Thank you!
WhisperToMe (talk) 07:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014[edit]

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in the Americas may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! --Another Believer (Talk) 21:01, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured Article[edit]

Hi all,

I recently submitted the article Briarcliff Manor, New York to the list of featured article candidates. I am actively following its review, and will be glad to take criticism and advice, and I welcome you to edit the article directly. Would any members of this WikiProject take some time to assist in the article review? Thank you.

Respectfully,
--ɱ (talk) 00:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)