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Tokyo Yūshun

The article Tokyo Yūshun gives "Japanese Derby" as an alternative name in the opening sentence. Since "Japanese Derby" is English whereas "Yūshun" is not, I tried to rename the article with the reason "English title preferable according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English): "Use the most commonly used English version of the name of the subject as the title of the article... ."" However, the move did not succeed. Should we rename this article? Fg2 (talk) 00:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Nara religion: hoax?

Is Nara religion a hoax? Fg2 (talk) 09:42, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Yep. Nonsense names, Japanese characters not matching names, Buddhism was introduced to Japan in 7th or 8th century AD, so a religion from 780 BC could not have been a variation of Buddhism. Speedy it. TomorrowTime (talk) 10:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Ha! I didn't even notice BC. Fg2 (talk) 10:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Definitely a hoax. I orphaned the article so that no unsuspecting reader will stumble upon it before it gets deleted. --ざくら 13:32, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I prodded it. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics

This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics.

See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages.

The Transhumanist 10:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Portal selected articles

I've added a bunch more articles to the list of 52 we need for the whole year, and I tried to give a wide variety of articles (our FA list of articles is heavily military related). They all should be either FA or GA status. There are still several weeks which haven't been created. Please come help fill the rest. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow, thanks for adding. I started the process awhile ago, but as you know, it is very tedious. Thanks for getting the ball rolling again though. I hope we can get the front page of the portal finished soon. --TorsodogTalk 23:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I've finished up the "On this day..." through the end of July, and the selected articles are complete through week 36 now. We need to finish weeks 37-52, then finish "On this day..." for January 6-20, and August-December (all dates). Also, I've been using the same format for "On this day..." as found on the Wikipedia-wide date pages. I think this is a good format. What do you think? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I added a few more Selected articles, though we are quickly running out of non-military related articles. As for the "On this day..." section, it is a HUGE undertaking to completely finish and polish it. What you have done for July is a GREAT start, however. Where have did you get the events, births and death from? I'd love to join in to help get the ball rolling on that project. Also, the last section to completely finish on the main portal page would be the selected picture section. I think this is one of the easiest sections to complete because there are many great Japanese related pictures to choose from on Wikipedia. My eventual goal, however, is to compile a list of 365 so the images could rotate daily—a slightly larger task. --TorsodogTalk 07:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I got the information from the mainspace date pages (like July 3 or May 27). I just scan through them for Japan-related dates. The pictures should be featured pictures if possible. I know Fg2 has taken a lot of excellent Japan-related pictures. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Not one featured picture on English Wikipedia, alas. But if you want something, ask. I might have something in my files. Fg2 (talk) 08:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Atsuko Kawada has been proposed for deletion

Another editor has prodded Atsuko Kawada. Could you please take a look at the corresponding article in the Japanese-language Wikipedia, ja:川田あつ子, and if you feel that the actress is notable, expand the English-language article to a point where notability is obvious and the prod can be removed? --Eastmain (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

  • The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
  • The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
  • A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I've made the changes to the talk page banner, so this should work if anyone wants to reassess some of the Start and B class articles as C class. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Japan formatting problem

Illustration of formatting problem

When I view Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan using Firefox, the Cleanup box hangs to the left of the left margin and disrupts the formatting of subsequent sections, as the illustration shows. Can anyone fix this? Fg2 (talk) 07:40, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The illustration shows a portion of Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan, displayed with text one size larger than Firefox's initial setting. With the initial text size, the Cleanup box also hangs to the left of the margin, and disrupts the formatting of subsequent material, although less. Fg2 (talk) 07:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed the section formatting by adding {{clear}} after the cleanup box. I also tried to fix the alignment problem by using {{align|left|...}} instead of <div style="...">; it works with Firefox but with IE6, the box is right-aligned. As it is less broken than the problem shown in the illustration, I committed the change. --Kusunose 14:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Kusunose. That works for Firefox at the initial text size as well as smaller and larger sizes. Firefox also right-aligns the box, although you typed "left." In any case, the box no longer presents any problems. Again, thank you. Fg2 (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
It's likely something to do with the formatting of the box itself. If you apply nothing else to it, it will automatically right-align itself. Perhaps we should just create a link to it with the same info as is in the box? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
That might wind up being the best long-term solution. But let's wait a bit. I've also asked the user, B. Wolterding, who runs the bot, for ideas. He might know the ins and outs of which code is in which piece (the page, the template) and how to adjust it. Also, if we remove the box and link to it, he might be able to ensure the bot will not come back and replace it. Fg2 (talk) 01:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
The cleanup listing box is supposed to right-align itself; however I can't guarantee that this will always work when nested in a complex layout, such as here. If it causes problems, you can just hide the box by adding a "hidden=1" parameter to the User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription template, and provide a custom link to the cleanup listing. However, you need to keep the subscription template as such on your page (even if hidden) in order to receive future updates to the cleanup listing. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
I've hidden the box and added a link to the page. Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

About Yashikaru Izuwa...

This page is very...peculiar. What should we do about it? --ざくら 14:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and the image in the article is a copyvio. --ざくら 19:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
That image (as well as two others that were smaller, but the same image) has been deleted as a copyvio. The images clearly had "All Rights Reserved" right in the image. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

websites for 携帯

If anyone here knows about creating websites that the under-30s are likely to look at, I'd be grateful for expert comments over at this place. (Failing that, I may have to use my own tired brain.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Japan location articles-maps

Right now on the Japanese location articles, the maps just show the location of the city or village or ward in relation to the prefecture. It would be more useful to include a small map of Japan with the area highlighted, just as the map of Colorado Springs, Colorado includes a location of Colorado within the United States. Please can we modify the infobox to include this somehow? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

ps-Happy Tanabata! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm not seeing a map of the United States in that article. There's a map of Colorado, then a map of the individual county, but no US map. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Although it's not the nation and city, it does have a double map: the map on the right shows Colorado Springs within the county, and the smaller map on the left shows the county within the state. Analogously, one could show a double map for municipalities in Japan: the first showing the municipality within the prefecture and the second showing the prefecture within a larger context (we might consider region, island and nation: perhaps one is suitable).
PS I hope you had a good Tanabata. There was a light-down event planned but since it was cloudy I don't think the stars were visible locally. Fg2 (talk) 10:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, it must have been removed, a good example is Mawlamyine within Burma. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


{{Convert}} supports tsubo.

  • e.g. {{convert|36|tsubo}} → 36 tsubo (120 m2)

Is there any interest in adding other Japanese units of measurement? JIMp talk·cont 00:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

That's kinda cool. Thanks for letting us know. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Also you can convert from tsubo to square metres & square feet
  • e.g. "{{convert|36|tsubo|m2 sqft}}" gives "36 tsubo (120 m2; 1,300 sq ft)" [1]
... or to tsubo or to tsubo and square feet.
  • e.g. "{{convert|120|m2|tsubo}}" gives "120 square metres (36 tsubo)" [2] and
  • "{{convert|120|m2|tsubo sqft}}" gives "120 square metres (36 tsubo; 1,300 sq ft)" [3]
If there are other conversions/combinations that might be useful, feel free to bring it up on Template talk:Convert. JIMp talk·cont 07:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmm...seems to have choked and died. The template is throwing up weird errors. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Akihiko Hirata

Is anyone here familiar with this guy? The article states that he is Korean, but while he may have been born there I'm not too sure. The bio on IMDb tends to suggest that he was Japanese (his birth name, etc.), but I can't find much else of substance. If anyone knows anything or can find any useful information, it would be appreciated. Regards. PC78 (talk) 01:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I located an article in the Japanese Wikipedia and placed a link to it in the article. The Japanese Wikipedia states that he was ethnically Japanese, not Korean. Also that he was born in Seoul. The Japanese Wikipedia includes biographical information and an extensive list of film and other appearances. Fg2 (talk) 03:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Cheers! I've changed the article accordingly. PC78 (talk) 03:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

SamuraiWiki again

Back in April there was much todo about the addition of wodges of stuff from "SamuraiWiki". Briefly, one editor was keen to do it but couldn't provide any coherent reasoning for it. Eventually he stopped.

Now he's back.

Some of this stuff has a certain unintended charm -- I like the way that, receiving bad news, Endō Motonobu initially committed suicide -- but this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, and (WP:SOURCE concerns aside) neither a mirror of some other encyclopedia nor Uncyclopedia. Bring your mops and buckets, there's work to be done. -- Hoary (talk) 10:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

EA has been blocked indefinitely (and not by me). -- Hoary (talk) 00:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
He was previously blocked indefinitely under the name User:Darin Fidika. See, for example, this version of the user page. That user name now redirects to User:Tathagata Buddha. So we can expect him to return, perhaps with a new name. Fg2 (talk) 01:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Issues of his return aside, what can or ought to be done about the articles? -Tadakuni (talk) 01:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
If Fidika were to return, his inimitable prose style would make him instantly recognizable. ¶ Tag for speedy deletion anything that's largely plagiarized from his favorite site (which is neither GFDL nor PD), and send the rest to AfD as not worth the effort to fix, without prejudicing the fate of any later, unrelated attempts to make well-sourced, lucid articles on the same topics. -- Hoary (talk) 01:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Absolutely true. I think everyone who's ever dealt with him can immediately recognize him by now. Also, as far as the articles go, this may be of help, as he listed them all very nicely. Is tagging for deletion an admin's job, or can anyone do that? -Tadakuni (talk) 02:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Anybody may tag an article (or anything else) with a template for speedy deletion or its alternatives. You're as free to do it as anybody else. But as you seem rather unfamiliar with this stuff, better to bone up on the policies first, then the methods -- for both, see Template:Deletiontools -- and only when you're certain, start off, which you should do slowly. If your template additions are persuasive, feel free to speed up. But I'd hold off a few hours before starting, to give other people who (unlike me) are familiar with the subject matter time to express their opinions on EA's product. ¶ If you were to send a large number of similar articles off to AfD, I'd strongly suggest taking particular care over the nomination statement, which might have to be longer than average. Readers are impatient with statements that are long and turgid; but I've found that they do take the time to digest longish statements that [I like to think] are carefully organized and phrased, and that they actually appreciate them. (I humbly submit this for your delectation.) -- Hoary (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for explaining, and offering that rather fascinating (and indeed delectable) example. I agree with you, I'll wait for at least a few hours and see what others have to say here. -Tadakuni (talk) 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I've been glancing at his articles, and I see a consistent pattern when it comes to Samurai Wiki and Samurai Archives (it should be borne in mind that a good deal of the content on Samurai Archives seems to be duplicated on the Samurai Wiki)-- if the words are not directly copied, the facts from SA/SW are reproduced, but rephrased into EA's usual roundabout, confusing prose. So he's just duplicating the data and changing the words around. I don't know if this counts as plagiarism/Copyright violation or whatever, but I was under the impression that even if you copy a block of text and change the words around, it's still a form of plagiarism. (**Warning-- Sarcasm ahead**) In a way I feel like if he'd simply copied the text for all of the articles it'd be a bit of a better situation for the readers (though still inexcusable), because the writers at SA, unlike EA, know how to write coherently. -Tadakuni (talk) 02:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Can't argue with any of that. -- Hoary (talk) 03:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to prefecture information box

Some changes have affected Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan. If you're interested in discussing these changes, please visit Template talk:Infobox Prefecture Japan#Recent changes ("romaji" parameter, etc.). Fg2 (talk) 08:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hawayo Takata

Might someone please address Aaxxll's repeated removal of all citations, references, and footnotes from the Hawayo Takata article? Thanks! - House of Scandal (talk) 03:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


The only source for one section of "Ritsumeikan University" is something by Debito Arudou. Is this a good source? Tama1988 (talk) 08:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

A blog (and this seems to be a blog) is not a good source, unless the person is a recognized authority on the subject, according to Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided #11. Does anyone have any information about his being a recognized authority? Fg2 (talk) 08:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Arudou is a regular columnist for the Japan Times with columns appearing about twice a month. His subject of expertise that he almost always writes about in that newspaper is discrimination against foreigners in Japan. So, I'd say that his blog is appropriate to use for that section on that university since he is a recognized authority on the subject of unfair treatment of foreigners in Japan. Cla68 (talk) 08:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I dunno... Arudo is also well known for blowing stuff ridiculously out of proportions. The controversy in question is (most probably) real enough, but I'd rather see some other sources backing up the numbers and reasons stated than go solely by Arudo's figures... TomorrowTime (talk) 09:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
If he published it in the Japan Times, that gives it more credibility. If he published it in a blog but not in the newspaper, that's another matter. The JT is a good place to look for published sources. Fg2 (talk) 10:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I just searched around JT and couldn't find where Arudou or anyone else had discussed any unfair labor practices at Ritsumeikan. Cla68 (talk) 23:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I found a Japan Times article dated 2005, (the ref to which I added to Ritsumeikan). I couldn't find anything else. It does look problematic, I agree, if all we can find is a single source, if prominent one. -- Taku (talk) 00:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


There is an longstanding and ever ongoing dispute (and now request for comment) about neutral point of view and WP:LEAD, original research etc, on this page. Fresh opinions and editors would be welcome.--Slp1 (talk) 02:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

disposal of the œuvre of Exiled Ambition

User:Exiled Ambition -- see earlier talk about SamuraiWiki, etc -- has been exiled indefinitely. Now what to do?

A few hours ago, Tadakuni slapped a copyvio template on a recent creation of EA's, Anazawa Nobunari. Looking at it, I didn't think it was a copyright violation. Instead, it was a very free paraphrase. The freer the paraphrase, of course the more there was of EA-speak and the further it descended into incomprehensibility.

For utter incomprehensibility, one can have an article speedied via Template:Db-g1. The trouble is that this is worded very tightly, to exclude bad writing and stuff that's not in English. (I think it's for "articles" reading "asdfasdfasdf asdfasdfasdf" etc., or perhaps articles that actually have understandable content such as "Skool sux!") EA's utterances aren't quite right.

EA's creations of this kind are sourced to SamuraiWiki (though they often additionally/alternatively cite whatever source the SamuraiWiki article cites). Some of these articles are about people who seem notable (even to me); others are about people whose notability seems very minor (though I'm not qualified to judge).

I was bold and speedily deleted this particular article. This was not intended to express any view on the article-worthiness of Anazawa Nobunari, merely my view that the article as it existed was unsalvagable rubbish.

Comments please. -- Hoary (talk) 03:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I think at this juncture it might be wise of me to step back and let others take care of this. It's been quite an interesting few days, but the last thing I want to do is let my zeal get the better of me. Perhaps a short break is even in order. -Tadakuni (talk) 03:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
No, no. You slapped a copyvio template on something that I didn't think was a copyvio. If you goofed -- and somebody else might conclude that you didn't, and that instead I did -- then you goofed once. And a lesser goof (if a goof at all) than many that I've made in my time. Stick around! ¶ But now, back to the question. I'd like to hear from Nihonjoe and others. -- Hoary (talk) 03:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
While EA embellished it a bit with barely-comprehensible "big words" and unnecessary flowery language, I would say it qualifies as plagiarism, and therefore is a copyright violation. Tadakuni was correct to lay the smackdown on it. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Prior to Hoary's post here, I nominated a bunch more of those articles (see here) for copyvio, too. I've been making sure to go to Samurai Wiki and compare SW's entry to EA's. Yes, not all of the articles he created or edited need to be deleted-- I think a good example might be Tsugaru clan, which I heavily edited today. Ultimately I think this may have to be done on a one-by-one basis. -Tadakuni (talk) 05:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The MLA Handbook and the like certainly would call a mere paraphrase (as opposed to an intelligent distillation into a summary) plagiarism. I'd feared that in Wikipedia terms it wouldn't be. If it is indeed plagiarism, then of course that simplifies things a lot. If I were the autocrat of WP, I'd say "If in doubt, slap a copyvio template on it". So it's not just me then. Good! -- Hoary (talk) 07:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject workgroup on Sino-Japanese-Korean relations

Wikiproject Sino-Japanese-Korean relations

I have proposed a Wikiproject workgroup on Sino-Japanese-Korean relations.

In my opinion, Wikipedia topics on Sino-Japanese-Korean topics all too often, and unfortunately, reflect the tense, exaggerated, embittered and often politically nationalistic debates currently prevalent in the popular presses of these three great nations.

In many case, these polemics are immature, propagandistic and unencyclopedic in nature and causes being promoted by unethical editing habits. Japanese-Korean topics appear to be amongst the more problematic topics on the Wikipedia.

At the same time, within each nation and academic circles there are moves to create pan-national understanding and document an accurate account of history. It is therefore proposed to establish a Sino-Japanese-Korean workgroup interested in establishing good working relations to improve the academic nature of these articles and encourage normal editing.

For the sakes of honesty and transparency, this pan-national workgroup was sincerely proposed precisely in response to the mode of operation used by many editors

Such wasteful activities as persistent allegations, personal attacks and other distractions from the primary activity of content production and reference checking only discouraging newcomers, less aggressive and, especially, genuine academics from participating on the Wikipedia. They undermine the goodwill of the Wikipedia.

It is hoped that by bring together authors from across the spectrum who are interested in rising above differences standards, understanding and sensitivity can be improved; just as they are in academia at present.

Your contribution is welcome. My apologies if it is not according to the protocols to make such announcements on other WikiProjects. --Ex-oneatf (talk) 05:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind article is currently under VfD [4]. It has been briefly listed under Japan-related deletions, but has been delisted due to my comment there. The situation is as follows: EoM is apparently an important figurehead in the Warhammer 40000 in-game universe, and it's notability has been contested. The response of a W4K editor has been to add a notion about former Japanese imperial titles, of which EoM is apparently one - so the article is currently in this shape: "EoM is a Japanese imperial title. It is also used in W4K [at which point the article goes indepth with the W4K in-universe stuff]." I have been asked by an editor to provide insight into whether EoM really is a legitimate Japanese imperial title (not for the purpose of creating a more convincing vehicle for the W4K article, but simply in the hope of straightening out things), but I must admit, I do not know. Can anyone here shed some light on this historical title and its existance? TomorrowTime (talk) 10:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Disregard that. The article no longer opens with the Japanese imperial title. Nevertheless, can anyone confirm or deny the actual existance of the title? TomorrowTime (talk) 10:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
There's an list of titles at 天皇. See Sections 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3.2. I didn't see anything likely, but someone with more skill might find it. Fg2 (talk) 11:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Hm, possibly the closest I could find is the Meiji colloquial 上御一人(かみごいちにん), but that's not really it, is it... :/ TomorrowTime (talk) 12:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Or else, this: 王世子. Since the original source was a book about Shinto and nationalism, and 王世子 was used in Korea, this title could possibly be what was being referred to. Question is, would 王世子 'really' be translated as Emperor of Mankind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TomorrowTime (talkcontribs) 12:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
王世子 apparently meant the Crown Prince, not the Emperor. I don't think there's much reason to translate it as "Emperor of Mankind." Fg2 (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Kesen dialect sources


Improved sources for the article Kesen dialect were proposed on its talk page.

Can anyone please check them and incorporate them into the article? Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 12:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Combine with Rebun Island and Rebun Town articles

For any who are interested I am proposing to combine the articles for Rebun Town and Rebun Island. Both cover the same geographic area. This would be analog to Hokkaido the island and Hokkaido the prefecture sharing the same article. If you are interested, comment here.imars (talk) 09:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Question. If this is to be the rule, what do we do with Taketomi? There is Taketomi the island, and then there is Taketomi the village, spanning several neighbouring islands as well. TomorrowTime (talk) 10:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I would say only where the overlap is complete would combining the articles be an option. Rebun Island and Rebun Town really are one in the same. In the case of Taketomi, the town consists of several islands according to your statement. That would be one article. You can then create individual island articles for each island, assuming they are noteworthy enough, and link to them in the town article.imars (talk) 05:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Mediawiki Administrator Needed

Hello guys. I apologise for posting this here when it's not directly related to Wikipedia. I was wondering if anybody here is or knows an experienced mediawiki administrator who would be willing to help out at Japanwiki (we are also GFDL). I am looking for somebody who knows how to make mediawiki multilingual (i.e. set up a 2nd wiki, i.e. in Chinese and then add the ability to have language links to the left for articles that exist in more than one language, just like wikipedia). If you guys know anybody trustworthy who knows his stuff (unix etc) and would be willing to help please let him know about us or drop me a line on my talk page. Many thanks in advance. Japanwiki Jubeidono (talk) 15:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Spread of the printing press needs information about early use of printing press in Japan

The section on East Asia in Spread of the printing press is almost blank, except for a note about the introduction of the printing press to Korea. Does anyone here know when the printing press was first used in Japan, and/or East Asia? Could you have a look at Spread of the printing press and introduce the relevant information? Thanks --lk (talk) 06:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Following the article on printing, I came across this name: The Jesuit Mission Press in Japan. According to this: [5], the printing press was first introduced to Japan in 1590, by Alessandro Valignano, and was used to print Christian missionary material. TomorrowTime (talk) 08:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)