Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/Noticeboard
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- 1 Anal sex in the Bible (Mishk'vei ishah)
- 2 John Bosco
- 3 2022 FIFA World Cup
- 4 Accessibility and equality as core policies
- 5 Liberace
- 6 LGBT keywords?
- 7 Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request
- 8 SSM in Washington DC
- 9 Good enough to keep, yet not perfectly balanced about my nation's superstar who was outed 30 years after death
Anal sex in the Bible (Mishk'vei ishah)
I'm sure I mentioned Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mishk'vei ishah before. But I can't find it in this page's history, or archives.
Three years ago, John Bosco was a disputed article that was moderated and settled in this Wikipedia:WikiProject_LGBT_studies/Notice_board/Archive_2. It appears that the two editors, who sparked the dispute, are back and trying to deleted the compromise. How does this case get re-opened?
2022 FIFA World Cup
Accessibility and equality as core policies
I propose that we add a commitment to accessibility and equality to the Five pillars. Please join discussion at Wikipedia talk:Five pillars#Accessibility and equality. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
There seems to have been a bit of a situation brewing at Liberace; over the past several months, there seems to have been a slow-motion edit war consisting of anonymous IPs removing LGBT-related categories from the article on the grounds that denying it during his lifetime somehow proves that he wasn't, followed by a signed-in Wikipedia editor later readding them, followed by another anonymous IP removing them again, lather, rinse, repeat.
At time of writing, clicking the "What links here?" link at the Nan Joyce article shows that Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Noticeboard links there because Nan Joyce was identified by a bot as containing so-called "LGBT keywords". Since Nan Joyce is heterosexual, I am curious to know what "LGBT keywords" precisely were in the article I wrote. It was not my intention to suggest that she is a lesbian. Where is the list of "LGBT keywords", and which did I use? — O'Dea (talk) 23:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! In accordance with the conditions set forth in the previous discussion of the Bradley Manning/Chelsea Manning title dispute, a new move request has been filed and is now underway. bd2412 T 20:50, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
SSM in Washington DC
Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/March 9 has a blurb that states:
- 2010 – The first same-sex marriages in Washington, D.C.—the only jurisdiction south of the Mason–Dixon line where they are legal—took place.
- No. Better "the first" south of, not "the only" any more. Would need more of a rewrite. "the first jurisdiction south of the M-D Line where they became legal" or better to rethink entirely:
- "The first U.S. same-sex marriages south of the M-D line took place in Washington DC." Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Good enough to keep, yet not perfectly balanced about my nation's superstar who was outed 30 years after death
My nation had an artist who gained a superstar status, from the mid-1950s until the late 1960s at a time when we had no local-TV stations or -radio stations--only a national broadcaster (at a time when we were transitioning from a predominantly rural economy).
A notable member of my nation's intelligentsia (and an administrator of the wikipedia of my language), is now making edits regarding this superstar, who had "celebrity friends [that] had participated in spreading, and that made Prøysen into an almost Christlike figure, the mascot of the entire social democracy, that they could bask in the glory of?" (How this member of the intelligentsia is removing content about other living members of the intelligentsia, might be somewhat questionable.)
The result of the edits are that content is being removed  about descriptions about how members of the intelligentsia were non-forthcoming (for several decades after the artist's death) in regards to the artist's bisexuality.
An extra reason to keep the content is that it might give an indication about the general mood in sections of society, after sex between men was decriminalized in the early 1970s. Since only this other editor and I, currently are editing the article and the talk page, we might need some extra help in regards to how the general lines about a person's sexuality should be drawn, in cases like this one.
A quote which also has been removed, is "Furthermore Røsbak says that "I became less and less enthusiastic about the imposition that was alive among friends of Prøysen, about that this [the topic of the sexual preferences] was to be held within engere circles, as a topic over glasses of red wine, as a hot topic of gossip, but that must not be brought any further", out of (what Røbak's sources called) consideration for the family of Prøysen". --Abalonney (talk) 11:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- To be exact, Alf Prøysen's career and fame spanned from 1945 till his early death in 1970. If Abalonney wishes to expand the en:wp biography about Prøysen, i could recommend the no:wp version of the article, which I contributed to this spring, prior to the centeniary i july. Abalonney's interest in this biography seems however to be quite narrow, focusing only on the "recent" (i.e. 2004) news that Prøysen had bisexual feelings, and discussed them with friends during the 60's.
- Prøysen's bisexuality as such is quite well sourced and discussed, even though Abalonney does not know, or have access to these sources (I've mentioned some of them at Talk:Alf Prøysen, and used almost all of them in the section Alf_Prøysen#Bifil-debatten_2004). The problem with Abalonney's contributions is therefore not that they are revealing any new part of Prøysen's life, or that someone wants to withdraw facts. The problem is, IMHO, that the whole section about bisexuality seem to describe Røsbak's research process, different opinions about Prøysen's bisexuality and Røsbak's reflections about that. Thus, focus is not on Prøysen, but on Røsbak. That is not a good way to write an encyclopedic biography about Prøysen. Bw Orland (talk) 20:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)