Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists

RfC: Elimination of outline articles

See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#RfC:_Elimination_of_outline_articles. Ozob (talk) 22:10, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Listref

List articles often use a single source a multitude of times. This results in an unwieldy number of backlinks. I have created {{listref}} to resolve this issue. See the template documentation for further details on the issues. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed mass deletion of lists

Articles for deletion (four previous, six current):

Articles for deletion/List of important publications in biology	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in chemistry	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in computer science
Articles for deletion/List of important publications in concurrent, parallel, and distributed computing	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in geology	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in mathematics
Articles for deletion/List of important publications in medicine	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in networks and security	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in sociology
Articles for deletion/List of important publications in statistics	Articles for deletion/List of important publications in theoretical computer science

Members of this wikiproject may be interested in the various "List of important publications in ..." (six topics) discussions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2011 October 1. Jowa fan (talk) 00:35, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I have added an infobox listing them. RockMagnetist (talk) 04:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Many of the arguments for deleting these lists could be applied equally to many other kinds of lists, so the members of this project may have a stake in the discussion. Here is my precis of the issues:

1. What are the notability criteria for lists of important publications? Can they be determined from WP:LISTN alone, along with the general requirement to cite your sources? Or do they need to incorporate criteria from Wikipedia:Notability (books)? Or is there something else beyond these requirements?
2. Can the requirements be met by such a list—at least in principle? (If they cannot, then how about other kinds of lists?)
3. Do the requirements have to be met the moment the list is created, or simply stated as goals in the headers? RockMagnetist (talk) 05:07, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Lists of countries by something / lists of something by country

I am not too sure whether there's a specific WikiProject for lists of countries or lists by countries. The problems I've encountered are that:

1. Should Gambia and Bahamas be listed as The Gambia and The Bahamas (yet still sorted under #G and #B), since the word The are part of their names?
2. Should the Republic of the Congo be sorted under #C, while the Democratic Republic of the Congo be sorted under #D?
3. Should the {{sort}} template be used to sort the two Koreas under #K?
4. Should Greenland be sorted separately from Denmark (e.g., in the List of countries by length of coastline), and if yes, should it be listed as Greenland or Greenland (Denmark)?
5. Should England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have separate listings, or have on single listings under United Kingdom, for matters unrelated to sport such as a list of power stations by country?

119.237.156.46 (talk) 17:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about the rest, but in the case of #1, "the" should be lowercased - see, for instance. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Meanwhile, should dependencies be ranked in a list of countries by something? 119.237.156.46 (talk) 12:10, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposal to change a section title

There's a proposal to adjust one of the main section titles used in "Wikipedia's contents", which will also affect the order in which the section titles are presented. See Portal talk:Contents#Proposal for main section title adjustment. The Transhumanist 02:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

List of important publications in chemistry at AfD

List of important publications in chemistry has been nominated for deletion. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in chemistry.  --Lambiam 22:19, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:HighestWorldwideGrossMovies

The template {{HighestWorldwideGrossMovies}} has been nominated for deletion. Interested parties are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Soliciting support for draft WikiProject Bibliographies

Fellow Wikipedians, I have taken the initiative, in consultation with a few others, to draft a WikiProject for Bibliographies. I hope it will be of interest to members of this project. The genesis of this effort has been a recent spate of AfD nominations of lists of publications. For the most part, the articles were not deleted, but that doesn’t mean many of them didn’t need work. A WP article entitled List of subject publications or any list of works, is by any other name, a Bibliography. Bibliographies within WP are specifically identified as a form of List in WP:List, are subject to List notability guidelines and the List Manual of Style. Unfortunately, many of the existing Bibliographies (or lists of publications) are not up to these standards. And there’s a high probability that new lists of publications or new Bibliographies won’t completely meet these standards as well, unless we as a community bring greater visibility to this genre of lists.

So the explicit goals of this draft project are to establish project-level advice for creating good bibliographies, gradually bring the existing set of bibliographies (400+) up to standard and to encourage editors to create bibliographies on topics and authors where appropriate. The goal is not to create bibliographies of everything or on everything.

I think the draft Bibliography project is logically connected to this project and members here would have a lot to contribute. If you are interested in participating, please sign up on the draft project page. If we get sufficient interest, I will move the draft into the Wikipedia space and we can press on. Also, please don’t hesitate to make suggestions on the draft here. I am sure it can be improved, will need some work to comply with Project guidelines and that it will evolve as this thing gets going. Thanks in advance for your support.

List of writers in Assamese Children literature

I would like to add the name of Sajanyamayee Bhattacharjee as a known children story writer in Assam.

Name of books published are :

Runjun Nupur baajaai Baundhu Khatiyokor Jibon Mouchak Jaadukori Buri ghorot Baliram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.245.7.8 (talk) 05:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Web scraping tool for article research (list expansion)

I want to expand a list with data that is available on governmental website (license - in public domain). It is a list of about 100 entries with reference externally linked from each row. I need to harvest text strings that are on a specific HTML-table on the linked reference pages. Could someone suggest a software tool (preferably client software, not crawler) than would be able to collect the data and export it somehow (spreadsheet, csv etc.)? Thanks! --Kozuch (talk) 08:35, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

FLC List of Israel State Cup winners

Hi everyone, There is a Featured list candidates of List of Israel State Cup winners. People with experience in WP, please have a look and apply your concerns, Support, or Oppose. Thank you. Please note: have you say before it closes with Stale nomination.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 06:52, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

List of fictional people from Boston Nominated for deletion

Nominated and relisted (not enough consensus) despite the vote being nearly unanimous, I implore anyone who thinks this list should be deleted (or stay in wikipedia), please just take a few moments, click this link, and vote, thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 01:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposal of a Taskforce

I'm proposing a wikiproject to cover fictional lists, it would be related to WikiProject Lists, and I thought maybe some people here would be interested in the proposal, maybe with some suggestions and hopefully some people might like to help out and sign up. Ncboy2010 (talk) 15:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

After some thought/suggestions I've decided I would like to set up a taskforce here, under wikiproject lists, to handle and take care of Fictional lists. Does anyone here know how I could go about getting this started? Please message me here or at my talk page. Ncboy2010 (talk) 20:08, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Looking for advice on List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of climate change

I would be grateful if some people experienced in list articles but uninvolved in the climate change area would comment on the inclusion of quotes in the main body of the above article. Can they be dispensed with entirely, given that the words are to be found in the cited sources? Should they be migrated into the footnotes? Or is it best to keep them where they are? Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

A great many WP Lists include explanatory information along with a specific list entry. In many cases, the additional information provides additional context about the entry when evaluated against the inclusion criteria for the list. In the case of the Scientists opposing list, I think the inclusion of specific, attributable quotations, not only provides useful context, but provides useful information for the reader as well. A reader might say I know Joe Scientist opposes mainstream thought, but what specifically has he said relative to his peers who also oppose mainstream thought. That is useful context and content to have in the article. Relegating the quotes to footnotes takes the context away and doesn't serve the reader well. Also, using specific quotes provides instant defense against those who might claim that any attempt to paraphrase a position is inaccurate. i.e. That's not what he meant or said! IMHO, using quotes in this type of list is a plus and does not detract from the article in any way. --Mike Cline (talk) 20:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I am still a bit worried about the "That's not what he meant!" aspect, as I feel it makes our article defensive, but glad to have an opinion from someone not involved in this group of articles. Itsmejudith (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

List of acronyms and initialisms: P

The List of acronyms and initialisms: P is becoming a list of links to disambiguation pages. Secondly, I fail to see why Wikipedia should have such a list at all. But before starting an AfD, maybe you guys can explain the sense (or nonsense) of this list to me. Night of the Big Wind _talk 20:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

It's an index, and one of a series (one for each letter, no less, plus others in Category:Lists of abbreviations). "I don't get why this is here" isn't a good reason to start an AFD. Looking at the edit history shows that these were created in 2005 and have been edited by many different editors since then. I've dropped a note on the talk page of one of the more prolific contributors about this thread. postdlf (talk) 06:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Bot task

Why don't you add the WikiProject Template to all "Talk:List of..." using a bot? emijrp (talk) 13:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea for anyone who's familiar with bots. Dkriegls (talk) 21:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

FLC List of Israel State Cup winners

Hi everyone, There is a Featured list candidates of List of Israel State Cup winners. People with experience in WP, please have a look and apply your concerns, Support, or Oppose. Thank you. Please note: have you say before it closes with Stale nomination.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 06:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Reformating selected Emmy Awards templates

I have initiated a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Reformating_Emmy_Awards_episodic_Directing_and_Writing_templates regarding reformatting {{EmmyAward ComedyDirector}}, {{EmmyAward DirectingDrama}}, {{EmmyAward DramaWriting}} and {{EmmyAward ComedyWriting}}. The intention is to make them look more like {{WritersGuildofAmericaEpisodicDramaScreenplay}}, {{WritersGuildofAmericaEpisodicComedyScreenplay}}, {{DirectorsGuildofAmericaOutstandingDirectingDramaSeries}} and {{DirectorsGuildofAmericaOutstandingDirectingComedySeries}} in hopes of encouraging editors to work on the most critically acclaimed episodes and highlight the most critically acclaimed episodes for the readers.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:54, 18 February 2012 (UTC)